The first Iraq War II movie: The Battle for Fallujah

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2004-12-20 01:48pm

Damn so he can learn, I haven't seen Collateral, and have been pissed off at him for something like 20 years for fucking up two of my favorite horror movies, and then realizing he was just ripping off Sam Pechinpah during the whole of Maimi Vice years.

your right aside from hip shooting the muskets (broken wrists anyone?) I did like Mohicans, and Heat kicked ass.

also from Bruckhiemer's credit I enjoyed Pirates emmensly. (I still dislike them though)

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2004-12-20 01:51pm

I ment to say fucking up the movie versions of two of my favorite horror books. (Thomas Harris' Red Dragon, and F. Paul Wilson's The Keep)

Elfdart · Post by **Elfdart** » 2004-12-20 09:24pm

I looked up the names of the producers of this movie: Michael Shamberg and Stacey Sher. Looking over their resumes, I have the distinct feeling that this will not be the kind of movie right-wing mouth breathers will fap-fap-fap away with.

Shamberg and and Sher worked together on a number of movies, but the one with the biggest political overtones is Erin Brockovich. They also produced the HBO movie The Pentagon Wars in which senior officers in the Pentagon are depicted as bunglers, crooks and mental cases. If this movie was made by John Milius and Walter Hill (who pack their movies with more phoney machismo than a Village People concert), I'd be worried. Or if Michael Bay was making the film.

Shamberg also produced A Fish Called Wanda. Maybe Harrison Ford will sniff his own armpit and say "Don't call me stupid!"

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-12-20 10:45pm

Pentagon Wars was fantastic.

"Isn't it true that the live ammunition was removed from the Bradley during the test firing?"
"Well yes. Had the Bradley had live ammunition, it would have exploded."

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-12-21 04:21am

Durandal wrote:Pentagon Wars was fantastic.

"Isn't it true that the live ammunition was removed from the Bradley during the test firing?"
"Well yes. Had the Bradley had live ammunition, it would have exploded."

"Isn't that the point?"

"I can't order up unlimited numbers of Bradleys, just to blow them up! Unless you're telling me to spend more money which I can't imagine you are ..."

Kelsey Grammar was classic in that role: "see if he can parallel park the fucker!"

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2004-12-21 12:47pm

Well, sounds great! I'll see it.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-12-21 02:09pm

The entire exchange was:

Major General Partridge: Just because the tests didn't turn out the way Colonel Burton thought they would, was no reason to suspect there was anything devious going on.
Madame Chairwoman: I ask you General, filling the fuel tanks with WATER before a test to check the combustibility of those tanks, that wasn't devious?
Major General Partridge: If the tanks had been filled with fuel, there's a good chance the vehicle would have exploded.
Congressman #1: Isn't that the point?
Major General Partridge: If the vehicle had exploded, we wouldn't be able to run additional tests!

Another funny little tidbit.

Caspar Weinberger: Please be seated. This will be brief, as I'm needed at the Oval Office. I'd like to call your attention to this morning's New York Times. If you'll turn to the editorial page? It essentially says that every weapon we produce is an over-priced piece of junk. Now, that's not news, critics have said it for years. What was news to me touched on our supposedly spectacular "Sgt. York" Anti-Aircraft Gun. It says that there when the "Sgt. York" proved incapable of hitting airplanes, we test-fired it at hovering helicopters. When it failed to hit hovering helicopters, we test-fired it at stationary targets, and it missed those. Now is this possible, General Keane?
Keane: There was a problem with the proximity fusing.
Caspar Weinberger: According to this, one missile locked on to a ventilation fan in the latrine, and destroyed the latrine! Were we test-firing at latrines that day?

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2004-12-21 04:21pm

The funny thing is that basically happened, though the vehicle actually locked onto an air conditioner fan on top of on some range instrumentation equipment. This is because in anti helicopter mode, Sergeant York tracked such aircraft based on the moving rotor blades so they couldn't hide from its radar by hovering against clutter. So naturally the spinning fan blades got engaged, though no ammunition was loaded for the test and the AC unit thus survived. Had ammo been onboard, opening fire would have been an automatic process.