Singers and covers or remakes

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-12-30 09:54am

Hemlock, have you heard Dave Matthews cover of All Along The Watchtower? bitchin'!

IndustrialNoise · Post by **IndustrialNoise** » 2004-12-30 11:35am

Like people have said, I think it's best to take a song and do it in a completely different style, if you're going to cover it, though this isn't always the case. For example, all of A Perfect Circle's eMOTIVe is made of political songs which they covered, and completely changed most, if not all of them. They covered some classic punk, like Black Flag and Fear, made it something completely their own, and it worked really well. Now, I think Korn needs to be shot for taking Pink Floyd's Another Brick in the Wall and making it "Nu-metal". I cannot, for the life of me, figure out why people like it. The only reason I can come up with is that people who are not familiar with the original version hear the new one, and have nothing to compare it to.

Edit: Has anybody heard 'Let's Go'? It's some horrible rap song, in which they took Crazy Train and just rapped over it, with the obligatory random "Yeah!!", "Okay!!", and "What!?!". Made me want to vomit.

Have anyone here heard Anal Cunt's cover of "Staying Alive"?

Yes.

Oi! Oi! Oi! Oi! Stayin Alive! Stayin Alive!

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2004-12-30 12:22pm

Fighter of Foo wrote: Edit: Has anybody heard 'Let's Go'? It's some horrible rap song, in which they took Crazy Train and just rapped over it, with the obligatory random "Yeah!!", "Okay!!", and "What!?!". Made me want to vomit.

I've heard it and other than the Crazy Train clips it is horrible. Just like P Diddy's (Puff Daddy) Come With Me at the end of the 1998 Godzilla movie. Taking a riff from Kashmir and then doing some crappy rap over it. I don't care whether he got Jimmy Page to play on it or not it still sucks.

I'll have to second the earlier opinion that G-N-R's cover of Sympathy for the Devil isn't that good. As covers go it doesn't totally blow though.

On that front I think the covers they did of Live & Let Die and Hair of the Dog are much worse. HoD being absolutely awful. Axl is getting off entirely too much say "beeeeeeyyyyyyaaaaaaatch". They did do a good cover of Knocking On Heaven's Door.

Sheryl Crow's cover of Sweat Child O' Mine is another bad cover except this time someone's screwing up a GnR song.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-12-30 02:36pm

I think we can all agree that one of the best covers was Run DMC's "Walk This Way".

Post by **Dalton** » 2004-12-30 06:09pm

Col. Crackpot wrote:Dalton, maybe it's just me but the GNR cover of Sympathy for the Devil is horrible.

Then you shall be castrated, dissenter.

Post by **Dalton** » 2004-12-30 06:09pm

DPDarkPrimus wrote:I think we can all agree that one of the best covers was Run DMC's "Walk This Way".

That wasn't really a cover, it was a co-op with Aerosmith.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2004-12-30 06:27pm

1. It's like thread necromancy, as long as you are contributing something to it, covers are cool. I love cash's covers just as well as I love the originals, mostly because they ARE very different.

2. Some covers are better known then the originals: Re Beatles cover of Ruby Tuesday, Areatha Franklin's cover of RESPECT.

3. some cross genre covers are a blast (this is particularly the problem some folks have with the cash covers is they are not country/blues fans). I have heard bluegrass and speed metal versions of Innagadadevita.

Mitth`raw`nuruodo · Post by **Mitth`raw`nuruodo** » 2004-12-30 06:36pm

The Yosemite Bear wrote:3. some cross genre covers are a blast (this is particularly the problem some folks have with the cash covers is they are not country/blues fans). I have heard bluegrass and speed metal versions of Innagadadevita.

I like country, I just hate Johnny Cash's voice.

This thought just occured to me: Say a band makes a song. They own it, it's copywrighted to them. Okay, now a few years later, a band covers a song, singing and playing it exactly the same. Can this second band be sued for doing this, if they make money off of it?

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2004-12-30 07:42pm

Hemlock, have you heard Dave Matthews cover of All Along The Watchtower? bitchin'!

Never, but I've never been a big fan of the DMB. I'll check it out, though.

2. Some covers are better known then the originals: Re Beatles cover of Ruby Tuesday, Areatha Franklin's cover of RESPECT.

I didn't know the Beatles covered Ruby Tuesday. Pretty much everyone I know just knows the Rolling Stones version.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2004-12-30 08:43pm

I can live with a cover if it's done differently. A few years ago on Radio1 Travis sang Baby One More Time and it was so good i near popped a nut. By contrast everytime i hear a cover by Girls Aloud i want to commit homocide. Singing an original song exactly like the original adds nothing, and in most cases takes away, from the original and is insulting to the paying public.

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2004-12-30 08:50pm

Peregrin Toker wrote:Have anyone here heard Anal Cunt's cover of "Staying Alive"?

No, but I've heard Exhumed's cover of Material Girl, I'd imagine it'd be along the same lines.

Gary Numan seems happy with the Fear Factory cover of Cars, and I agree with him, personally.

There are a lot of covers that are fucking cool, for instance, Cannibal Corpse's cover of No remorse is superior to the original, as is ORgy's cover of Blue Monday...it really depends on whether the band has the sound to pull it off.

Deathstalker · Post by **Deathstalker** » 2004-12-30 09:23pm

Mitth`raw`nuruodo wrote:This thought just occured to me: Say a band makes a song. They own it, it's copywrighted to them. Okay, now a few years later, a band covers a song, singing and playing it exactly the same. Can this second band be sued for doing this, if they make money off of it?

If the band has not gained permission or doesn't pay royalties, they can be sued. When that no talent punk Vanilla Ice sampled from "Under Pressure" by Queen and David Bowie, they sued his no talent punk ass for not gaining permission.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2004-12-31 02:25am

On the otherhand Lou Reed and Bruce Springstine have waved partial royalties to some rappers who have used their stuff.

*Wild Side remix, and 2Live's cover of Born in the USA

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2004-12-31 09:04am

I like APC version of Imagine, they turned a beautiful song about chaging the world into something to scare kiddies with and it worked.

Same with liking cash's cover of Hurt, he brought his own perspective to the song and it works again. Its a powerful song by cash. Reznors version is more, for lack of a better word, whiney.

DocHorror · Post by **DocHorror** » 2004-12-31 09:14am

Let us not forget the awesome cover of 'Common People' that Shatner did. Now there is a suprisingly excellent cover. The rest of the album isn't bad either.

The afore mentioned George Harrison cover of 'I got my mind...' is up in my list. As is Marilyn Manson's 'Sweet Dreams', White Zombies 'Children of the Grave' and 'I'm Your Boogieman'

The Beatles did a blistering set of covers of 'Twist and Shout' and 'Roll Over Beethoven'.

Metallica did some good covers back in the day, 'So What', 'Last Caress' and 'Stone Cold Crazy' are fabbo. Though I'm not big on the newer ones they did on 'Garage INC'

Then there are some awful covers, Rod Stewarts covers of Tom Waits's 'Downtown Train' and 'Tom Trauberts Blues' both suck.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2004-12-31 09:48am

Reznor's version is trash, like everything else Nine Inch Nails ever did.

And speaking of copyrights, I recall that the Rolling Stones curbstomped The Verve over the use of a Rolling Stones sample being played backwards in Bittersweet Symphony. How Britney Spears get permission to mangle "Satisfaction" I'll never know.

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2004-12-31 10:02am

HemlockGrey wrote:Reznor's version is trash, like everything else Nine Inch Nails ever did.

Its not all trash. He has some truly amazing tracks. Hurt just isnt one of them.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2004-12-31 10:26am

Name a few, I'll check them out and see if they're worth anything.

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2004-12-31 10:38am

HemlockGrey wrote:Name a few, I'll check them out and see if they're worth anything.

Somewhat damaged
The Fragile
StarFuckers Inc.
Perfect Drug
Something i can never have
Sin
March of the Pigs
Closer
and Piggy.

In no particular order. but those tend to be my most listened to tracks.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2004-12-31 10:41am

Shatner?

Shatner performed the greatest cover of all time with his version of Lucy In the Sky with Diamonds.

Absolutely hilarious.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2004-12-31 11:43am

the many covers of:

House of the Rising Sun

The Rolling Stones getting their asses sued for not getting permission from Bob Johnson's estate for "Love in Vein"

Executor32 · Post by **Executor32** » 2004-12-31 12:23pm

Call me weird, but I like Goldfinger's cover of 99 Red Balloons better than the original.