Posted: 2002-11-18 08:06pm
I didn't mind Dex's Diner. It brang the viewer to a kitschier, lower-class part of Coruscant. But, where does the kitsch fit in? Did they have 50's-ish architecture on some planet at some point?
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I find it curious that people have a problem with a 50s diner on Coruscant but not with the classical architecture of Naboo.Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:I didn't mind Dex's Diner. It brang the viewer to a kitschier, lower-class part of Coruscant. But, where does the kitsch fit in? Did they have 50's-ish architecture on some planet at some point?
To me Nubian architecture, though decidedly classical, fit in with the universe as being derived from the artsy Nubian society. It seemed to fit in with what Naboo was and so didn't seem that out of place. The diner on the other hand is totally American 1950s that really seemed out of place with the rest of Coruscant. Besides, classical architecture seemed to me to be a bit more universal than a decidedly American architectural and social establishment.Darth Wong wrote:I find it curious that people have a problem with a 50s diner on Coruscant but not with the classical architecture of Naboo.Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:I didn't mind Dex's Diner. It brang the viewer to a kitschier, lower-class part of Coruscant. But, where does the kitsch fit in? Did they have 50's-ish architecture on some planet at some point?
People are wierd. Most can accept that a highly technological society will have some 'backwards' architecture, but show them something familiar, some staple of life(And the greasy diner is a staple of any well-formed civilization, even if the species has 17 legs, lives in a liquid nitrogen ocean, and eats refined shale) makes a few warning signs go up.Darth Wong wrote:I find it curious that people have a problem with a 50s diner on Coruscant but not with the classical architecture of Naboo.Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:I didn't mind Dex's Diner. It brang the viewer to a kitschier, lower-class part of Coruscant. But, where does the kitsch fit in? Did they have 50's-ish architecture on some planet at some point?
UNLESS you interpret that to mean that Padme' possibly believes - as others have told her - that Tusken Raiders are sub-human. It's a pervading conception amongst everyone on Tatooine... and who knows how many horror stories she might've heard from Clieg Lars while Anakin was out playing Mr. Hero? To her, it was probably no different than finding out that your local animal shelter put a rabid dog to sleep.It makes NO sense for her to go up and just be all cuddly right after he admits to multiple homicides.
Odd. Weren't there Tusken Raider Jedi at some point?SPOOFE wrote:UNLESS you interpret that to mean that Padme' possibly believes - as others have told her - that Tusken Raiders are sub-human. It's a pervading conception amongst everyone on Tatooine... and who knows how many horror stories she might've heard from Clieg Lars while Anakin was out playing Mr. Hero? To her, it was probably no different than finding out that your local animal shelter put a rabid dog to sleep.It makes NO sense for her to go up and just be all cuddly right after he admits to multiple homicides.
GOOD GOD NO! If some hack actually did in the EU then they need shooting. Repeatedly. And then their work needs to be burned.neoolong wrote:Odd. Weren't there Tusken Raider Jedi at some point?SPOOFE wrote:UNLESS you interpret that to mean that Padme' possibly believes - as others have told her - that Tusken Raiders are sub-human. It's a pervading conception amongst everyone on Tatooine... and who knows how many horror stories she might've heard from Clieg Lars while Anakin was out playing Mr. Hero? To her, it was probably no different than finding out that your local animal shelter put a rabid dog to sleep.It makes NO sense for her to go up and just be all cuddly right after he admits to multiple homicides.
I liked the Diner.SirNitram wrote:People are wierd. Most can accept that a highly technological society will have some 'backwards' architecture, but show them something familiar, some staple of life(And the greasy diner is a staple of any well-formed civilization, even if the species has 17 legs, lives in a liquid nitrogen ocean, and eats refined shale) makes a few warning signs go up.Darth Wong wrote:I find it curious that people have a problem with a 50s diner on Coruscant but not with the classical architecture of Naboo.Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:I didn't mind Dex's Diner. It brang the viewer to a kitschier, lower-class part of Coruscant. But, where does the kitsch fit in? Did they have 50's-ish architecture on some planet at some point?
Hmm. I could have sworn that I heard somewhere that Ki-Adi-Mundi's padawan was a Tusken Raider. I guess I heard incorrectly.Crazy_Vasey wrote:GOOD GOD NO! If some hack actually did in the EU then they need shooting. Repeatedly. And then their work needs to be burned.neoolong wrote:Odd. Weren't there Tusken Raider Jedi at some point?SPOOFE wrote: UNLESS you interpret that to mean that Padme' possibly believes - as others have told her - that Tusken Raiders are sub-human. It's a pervading conception amongst everyone on Tatooine... and who knows how many horror stories she might've heard from Clieg Lars while Anakin was out playing Mr. Hero? To her, it was probably no different than finding out that your local animal shelter put a rabid dog to sleep.
This is the same woman who, by all appearences, considers the Genosians equals. She shows no indicaiton of any anti-human bias (and in fact seems to be very PC in accepting other species). Furthermore with the Naboo reverance for nature that suppossedly exists even if she considers them sub human it would be like Anakin coming home claiming fifty dead buffalo, including babies, to a PETA activist.SPOOFE wrote:UNLESS you interpret that to mean that Padme' possibly believes - as others have told her - that Tusken Raiders are sub-human. It's a pervading conception amongst everyone on Tatooine... and who knows how many horror stories she might've heard from Clieg Lars while Anakin was out playing Mr. Hero? To her, it was probably no different than finding out that your local animal shelter put a rabid dog to sleep.It makes NO sense for her to go up and just be all cuddly right after he admits to multiple homicides.
I think Padme might have some prejudices (who doesn't?) but after underestimating the Gungans I would think that she has a more open mind about other species than just about anyone inside or outside of the Repulic.CmdrWilkens wrote: This is the same woman who, by all appearences, considers the Genosians equals. She shows no indicaiton of any anti-human bias (and in fact seems to be very PC in accepting other species). Furthermore with the Naboo reverance for nature that suppossedly exists even if she considers them sub human it would be like Anakin coming home claiming fifty dead buffalo, including babies, to a PETA activist.
Basically given her espoused ethical position it makes no sense for her to be cuddly with him after he confesses to it.
He mentions in the commentary that it was an homage, I think.Tsyroc wrote:I too thought the diner bit was a little odd. I guess GL started thinking about American Grafitti for a moment while he was wrinting AotC.![]()
It wasn't too bad though.
I also think CmdrWilkens' idea about the "Geoncidal Maniac" scene would have worked much better than what was in the movie.
Tahiri Veila was raised as a Tusken Raider. Since she's from a KJA book, I figure that you'll reiterate your previous statement.Crazy_Vasey wrote:GOOD GOD NO! If some hack actually did in the EU then they need shooting. Repeatedly. And then their work needs to be burned.neoolong wrote:Odd. Weren't there Tusken Raider Jedi at some point?SPOOFE wrote: UNLESS you interpret that to mean that Padme' possibly believes - as others have told her - that Tusken Raiders are sub-human. It's a pervading conception amongst everyone on Tatooine... and who knows how many horror stories she might've heard from Clieg Lars while Anakin was out playing Mr. Hero? To her, it was probably no different than finding out that your local animal shelter put a rabid dog to sleep.
An homage to what though? I'll have to go back and rewatch with the commentary but I still think it was badly played out and could have been so much better with just minor changes.neoolong wrote:He mentions in the commentary that it was an homage, I think.Tsyroc wrote:I too thought the diner bit was a little odd. I guess GL started thinking about American Grafitti for a moment while he was wrinting AotC.![]()
It wasn't too bad though.
I also think CmdrWilkens' idea about the "Geoncidal Maniac" scene would have worked much better than what was in the movie.
To American Grafiti. The commentary is actually really good.CmdrWilkens wrote:An homage to what though? I'll have to go back and rewatch with the commentary but I still think it was badly played out and could have been so much better with just minor changes.neoolong wrote:He mentions in the commentary that it was an homage, I think.Tsyroc wrote:I too thought the diner bit was a little odd. I guess GL started thinking about American Grafitti for a moment while he was wrinting AotC.![]()
It wasn't too bad though.
I also think CmdrWilkens' idea about the "Geoncidal Maniac" scene would have worked much better than what was in the movie.
American Grafitti of course. You had mentioned it already so I didn't bother rewriting it.CmdrWilkens wrote:An homage to what though? I'll have to go back and rewatch with the commentary but I still think it was badly played out and could have been so much better with just minor changes.neoolong wrote:He mentions in the commentary that it was an homage, I think.Tsyroc wrote:I too thought the diner bit was a little odd. I guess GL started thinking about American Grafitti for a moment while he was wrinting AotC.![]()
It wasn't too bad though.
I also think CmdrWilkens' idea about the "Geoncidal Maniac" scene would have worked much better than what was in the movie.
Just another good reason to hate KJAs work.Master of Ossus wrote:Tahiri Veila was raised as a Tusken Raider. Since she's from a KJA book, I figure that you'll reiterate your previous statement.Crazy_Vasey wrote:GOOD GOD NO! If some hack actually did in the EU then they need shooting. Repeatedly. And then their work needs to be burned.neoolong wrote: Odd. Weren't there Tusken Raider Jedi at some point?
There was a thread about that. Nobody really knows. But humans have been able to blend in and live with them.Simon H.Johansen wrote:Just a question when you mentioned a Tusken Raider jedi - do any of you have a clue what Tusken Raiders look like under their clothing??
Let us never speak of this again.anarchistbunny wrote:Tusken Raiders apperances is one of the great mysteries of SW, along with what Jawas look like, is Yoda's cock green and wrinkly, and did Jabba bang Leia.