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Posted: 2002-11-25 06:04pm
by Acclamator
A better choice might have been:

Primitive?!

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Point this one at your head, and let's see you call it 'primitive' :P

Posted: 2002-11-25 06:04pm
by His Divine Shadow
Kon_El wrote:the P90 is a cool looking gun aint it?
No, it's stupid looking I think, the Mp5 is definitly cooler.
Someone should make a new Mp5 that can outdo the P90, hahaha!

Posted: 2002-11-25 06:08pm
by His Divine Shadow
Bastard wrote:Which is dumb, since there is no mechanism in the entire universe by which a smaller-than-human-head warhead would deliver a yeild greater than the most powerful nukes. Not even M/AM annhialation (the most powerful type of reaction in the universe) would out-yeild a Tsara Bomba with a warhead smaller than a human head.
What is the most powerfull nuke in existance? The tsar bomb IIRC, at 100MT, with MA/AM you can squeeze oh atleast 10kg easily into a human sized container, that'd yield ~215MT

Posted: 2002-11-25 06:11pm
by Sea Skimmer
His Divine Shadow wrote:
Kon_El wrote:the P90 is a cool looking gun aint it?
No, it's stupid looking I think, the Mp5 is definitly cooler.
Someone should make a new Mp5 that can outdo the P90, hahaha!
By the time your done trying to match the performance you would have an all-new gun, but it would suck as a result of trying to retain the MP-5 look rather then starting from scratch . The P-90 PDW was meant to deal with targets in heavy body armor at under 100 meters. MP-5 SMG was mean to deal with unprotected targets. They require different guns, cartridges and favor much different calibers.

Just buy an MP-7 and be done with it.

Posted: 2002-11-25 06:45pm
by Alyeska
His Divine Shadow wrote:
Kon_El wrote:the P90 is a cool looking gun aint it?
No, it's stupid looking I think, the Mp5 is definitly cooler.
Someone should make a new Mp5 that can outdo the P90, hahaha!
Problem is when the technology finally evens out, Pullpup designs are superior to the traditional fire design. Any attempt to outdo the P90 will result in a better P90 made that outdoes the new traditional design.

Though I agree, the MP5 is a damned nice looking gun.

Posted: 2002-11-25 07:25pm
by Illuminatus Primus
Bastard wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:
Bastard wrote: And out the window goes the "Present day Earth armies would be powerless against stormtroopers because of their bulletproof armour" claim.
You do realize that fighter-sized explosives in their book means direction fusion devices who's yields exceed our most powerful nukes and are smaller then your head, yes?
Which is dumb, since there is no mechanism in the entire universe by which a smaller-than-human-head warhead would deliver a yeild greater than the most powerful nukes. Not even M/AM annhialation (the most powerful type of reaction in the universe) would out-yeild a Tsara Bomba with a warhead smaller than a human head.

If this is a figure from the ICS, it only demonstrates that Saxton is a hack with a poor grasp of science.
Do you grasp "PhD in Astrophysics"?

Perhaps not.

How about, "Shut the fuck up."

Posted: 2002-11-25 07:28pm
by Illuminatus Primus
Saxton's job is not to apply "can we do it or not" to everything, but look at the explosion of Slave 1's missiles and produce the yield. It's "what" not "how."

And you're somehow more intelligent. All I've seen out of you on this forum is bullshit and inflamatory infantile proding. Go fuck yourself.

Posted: 2002-11-25 07:41pm
by Rubberanvil
His Divine Shadow wrote:
IG-88E wrote: That and stormie armor is highly resistant to KE weapons.
The armor is but not the wearer nor the body glove part of the suit unless I'm mistaken.

Posted: 2002-11-26 02:12am
by His Divine Shadow
Rubberanvil wrote:The armor is but not the wearer nor the body glove part of the suit unless I'm mistaken.
True, but thats not alot of places to shoot at, esp. not in a combat situation.

Posted: 2002-11-26 10:19am
by Evil Sadistic Bastard
His Divine Shadow wrote:
Rubberanvil wrote:The armor is but not the wearer nor the body glove part of the suit unless I'm mistaken.
True, but thats not alot of places to shoot at, esp. not in a combat situation.
Aiming at the weak spots invariably makes it more likely that the shooter dies rather than the stormy.

Posted: 2002-11-26 02:34pm
by Master of Ossus
The point of stormtrooper armor is not to make a wearer 100% invincible to all weapons, but rather to make a stormtrooper incredibly resistant to small arms fire, as well as biological, chemical, and radioactive agents. The armor also provides excellent protection against vacuum.

Posted: 2002-11-26 02:38pm
by Master of Ossus
Bastard wrote: Which is dumb, since there is no mechanism in the entire universe by which a smaller-than-human-head warhead would deliver a yeild greater than the most powerful nukes. Not even M/AM annhialation (the most powerful type of reaction in the universe) would out-yeild a Tsara Bomba with a warhead smaller than a human head.

If this is a figure from the ICS, it only demonstrates that Saxton is a hack with a poor grasp of science.
This is not a figure from the ICS, but even if it were your point is still ludicrously stupid. Hyperdrives are also impossible, but they exist within the SW universe. Thus, we could point out that SW relies on impossible technology. When we examine fictional universes, we evaluate them on the basis of what they do. We use the principle of suspension of disbelief to allow ourselves to think about more than what is possible, but rather what we see.

Saxton, incidentally, is a doctor in astrophysics. I highly doubt that you are qualified enough to call him a "hack," given your latest "point."

Posted: 2002-11-28 12:09am
by kojikun
Back OT, in Episode One during the pod race, Tusken Raiders shoot at the pod racers numerous times using standard high power rifles.

Posted: 2002-11-28 05:00am
by Silver
kojikun wrote:Back OT, in Episode One during the pod race, Tusken Raiders shoot at the pod racers numerous times using standard high power rifles.
Weren't those blaster rifles?

Posted: 2002-11-28 05:48am
by Sardaukar
Am I the only one here that has access to the dvds???
I'm just checking the Sand People's guns now....

Definately blasters.

Posted: 2002-11-28 05:53am
by His Divine Shadow
Sardaukar wrote:Am I the only one here that has access to the dvds???
I'm just checking the Sand People's guns now....

Definately blasters.
Why do you say that?

Posted: 2002-11-28 06:02am
by Sardaukar
They shoot red bolts, very similar to every other blaster bolt in the series. Rifles don't use tracers.

Posted: 2002-11-28 06:12am
by His Divine Shadow
Sardaukar wrote:They shoot red bolts, very similar to every other blaster bolt in the series. Rifles don't use tracers.
Ours did once.

Posted: 2002-11-28 02:00pm
by Lord Pounder
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Kinda looks like the Magnetic Accleration Gun from Demolition Man

Posted: 2002-11-28 02:02pm
by Evil Sadistic Bastard
Darth Pounder wrote: Kinda looks like the Magnetic Accleration Gun from Demolition Man
That's the HK G11, one of the most advanced assault rifles in the world. It never made it into general production because of some bullshit dispute in the German govt.

It was probably used as a model for the fusion gun in Demolition Man.

Posted: 2002-11-28 02:15pm
by Crazy_Vasey
That looks like a gun in Fallout 2 I can't remember the name of. It was a kickass small arms weapon using 4.7mm caseless ammo.

Posted: 2002-11-28 02:20pm
by His Divine Shadow
The germans should make the Venom gun from Wolfenstein II :P

Posted: 2002-11-29 03:46pm
by nightmare
The HKG11, HKG11E, P90 9mm and P90 10mm are all in Fallout 2.

Kickass game. 8)

Posted: 2002-11-29 04:11pm
by neoolong
nightmare wrote:The HKG11, HKG11E, P90 9mm and P90 10mm are all in Fallout 2.

Kickass game. 8)
Don't forget the BB gun. The best gun in the whole game. :D