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I don't find that necessarily true. In fact, I think it's the opposite. Childhood is childhood, so I'll by pass that and go for young adulthood.Andrew J. wrote:"The good old days" exist because life gets worse on a personal level as time goes on, and people apply that to the world in general. You're never any happier than when you're a little kid and you don't have anything to do, then you have to school, which gets progressively harder until you graduate, and then you have to work at the same stupid job for 40 years and THAT can only seem worse as time goes on, and then you retire but you're too arthritic and senile to enjoy it.
The world wasn't better when old people were young, their lives were. And they don't have any other frame of reference that would convince them otherwise.
Even if, as Kuroneko said, this turns out to be false, I can do you one better: Essentially the same complaint has been found in Sumerian or Babylonian arrow-head script on a clay tablet that was dated around 1500 or 2000 BC. It went on about the youth of the day being lazy layabouts who idled their days away at the city plaza ogling girls and disrespecting their hardworking elders and so on and so forth. Don't know where to find the quote, as I saw this in the science section of the newspaper over ten years ago, but yeah, nothing new.CaptainChewbacca wrote:I found this quote:
Nothing new under the sun."The young people of today love luxury. They have bad manners, they scoff at authority and lack respect for their elders. Children nowadays are really tyrants, they no longer stand up when their elders come into the room where they are sitting, they contradict their parents, chat together in the presence of adults, eat gluttonously and tyrannise their teachers. "
-Socrates, 470 BC
Sumeria?, seriously?, christ. I knew this attitude was as old as the hills, but Sumeria?. I'm starting to wonder if there ever actually was a period when youngsters did listen to there elders, didn't ogle girls and did a decent days work. And if not, why does everyone claim that there was some kind of Ur-time when this was the case?.Edi wrote:Even if, as Kuroneko said, this turns out to be false, I can do you one better: Essentially the same complaint has been found in Sumerian or Babylonian arrow-head script on a clay tablet that was dated around 1500 or 2000 BC. It went on about the youth of the day being lazy layabouts who idled their days away at the city plaza ogling girls and disrespecting their hardworking elders and so on and so forth. Don't know where to find the quote, as I saw this in the science section of the newspaper over ten years ago, but yeah, nothing new.CaptainChewbacca wrote:I found this quote:
Nothing new under the sun."The young people of today love luxury. They have bad manners, they scoff at authority and lack respect for their elders. Children nowadays are really tyrants, they no longer stand up when their elders come into the room where they are sitting, they contradict their parents, chat together in the presence of adults, eat gluttonously and tyrannise their teachers. "
-Socrates, 470 BC
Edi
Huh?Andrew J. wrote:"The good old days" exist because life gets worse on a personal level as time goes on, and people apply that to the world in general. You're never any happier than when you're a little kid and you don't have anything to do, then you have to school, which gets progressively harder until you graduate, and then you have to work at the same stupid job for 40 years and THAT can only seem worse as time goes on, and then you retire but you're too arthritic and senile to enjoy it.
The world wasn't better when old people were young, their lives were. And they don't have any other frame of reference that would convince them otherwise
Reminds me of Railroad Tycoon 3. Periodically you get newspaper reports of important stuff that happens (companies merging, economing going up/down, stock splits, historical events, etc). Besides the very descriptive headline (Union Pacific stock splits 3 for 1!) you see mini-headlines about unimportant stuff. There is one specific one that appears periodically from the earliest scenarios in the early 1800s to the end of the latest scenarios in ~2020. It is this: "Are today's youth more rebellious than ever?"Edi wrote:The same complaint has been found in Sumerian or Babylonian arrow-head script on a clay tablet that was dated around 1500 or 2000 BC. It went on about the youth of the day being lazy layabouts who idled their days away at the city plaza ogling girls and disrespecting their hardworking elders and so on and so forth. Don't know where to find the quote, as I saw this in the science section of the newspaper over ten years ago, but yeah, nothing new.
Edi
Read my post again. It didn't feel too bad back then, when you didn't know what you were missing, but...wolveraptor wrote:You even wanted to have sex and a relationship as a little kid? You even wanted to rebel against your parents as a little kid? You even wanted to go on intellectual forums as a little kid?
