Gallandro wasn't merely a professional gunman (Solo out drew Uhl-Raa-Rashan), he was a legendarily good gunman. Hands down one of the galaxy's best. And Solo came close to taking him Han Solo and the Lost Legacy.Deathstalker wrote:Apollo has no chance. I'm of the opinion that Han, in his prime circa ESB, is faster. He's filed down the front sight of his blaster to give him a faster draw, and as mentioned in the the Daley books, he's only been bested by a professional gunman. However, it would be neat to see him and Mal draw down on each other.
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You're combining the two cowboy-planet episodes. The one with Red Eye was all Apollo because he crash-landed on the planet.LadyTevar wrote:No, it was Starbuck, because he'd won the gold star that made him the Sheriff of the town, and therefore the one that had to stand up to "Ol' RedEye', the head thug of the local 'cattle baron'.StarshipTitanic wrote:Nope, that was Apollo. It was the episode where he crashed on one of the cowboy planets.LadyTevar wrote:As for oBSG Apollo, he was NOT the quickdraw of the show. Starbuck was, and there was an episode where Starbuck had to have a showdown with a reprogramed Cylon. (Hero won, of course)
Of course, it's been near 30 years since I've seen it, so maybe Apollo did take the star from Starbuck.
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Are you sure? Because the quick-draw Cylon was "Ol' Redeye" and the one 'sheriff' Starbuck was going to face off with.
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According to TV.com, it is indeed Apollo stuck playing the role of sherrif, in the episode 'The Lost Warrior'.LadyTevar wrote:Are you sure? Because the quick-draw Cylon was "Ol' Redeye" and the one 'sheriff' Starbuck was going to face off with.
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Ahh.. that wasn't him as the Sheriff. Apollo was just the 'Lone Stranger' there to protect the helpless widow-woman and her child.Patrick Ogaard wrote:According to TV.com, it is indeed Apollo stuck playing the role of sherrif, in the episode 'The Lost Warrior'.LadyTevar wrote:Are you sure? Because the quick-draw Cylon was "Ol' Redeye" and the one 'sheriff' Starbuck was going to face off with.
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The one I'm thinking of has Starbuck in a western-style saloon gambling with the locals and being tricked into accepting the gold star as part of the winnings. He even weighed the star for its gold content, after someone did the same to his Colonial credit chips.
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Quibble, quibble.LadyTevar wrote:Ahh.. that wasn't him as the Sheriff. Apollo was just the 'Lone Stranger' there to protect the helpless widow-woman and her child.Patrick Ogaard wrote:According to TV.com, it is indeed Apollo stuck playing the role of sherrif, in the episode 'The Lost Warrior'.LadyTevar wrote:Are you sure? Because the quick-draw Cylon was "Ol' Redeye" and the one 'sheriff' Starbuck was going to face off with.
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The one I'm thinking of has Starbuck in a western-style saloon gambling with the locals and being tricked into accepting the gold star as part of the winnings. He even weighed the star for its gold content, after someone did the same to his Colonial credit chips.
Apollo didn't get a star, but he did step into the shoes of the fellow who had been his predecessor as the de facto lawman.I believe the Starbuck episode you're thinking of might the 'The Magnificent Warriors.'
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I take no position on who would be faster, but I just reviewed the relevant scene from ESB: it takes 16 frames from standing to muzzle flash for Han to fire, although because of a change in camera angles I think between one to four frames are overlapped in time. (The camera is originally about 90 degrees from Han for ten frames and then changes to behind him for six frames.) Also, not that this has any bearing on who is the fastest gun, but once his arm is up Han gets off four shots in less than 46 frames (we don't see the fourth shot leave the muzzle, just the flight and impact on Vader's armor). Finally, there's an interesting detail I had never noticed before: in the close-ups you can see the shell casings eject from Han's "blaster"! 
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In the Serentiy trailer it takes Mal about 14 frames to draw and fire his weapon. That said, he was facing a man he believed to be unarmed, speed wasn't paramount. I'd check my Firefly DVDs but of course someone is borrowing them.
It does take Han 16 frames. Sadly for Han those 16 frames are after Chewie has had time to make a nice long growl (13 frames) at Vader. Since we see Han spot Vader before Chewie growls we can see that Han isn't that fast on the reaction speed.
The thing is this isn't so much a contest of Han vs Mal, but more Ford vs Fillion. As with the Buffy vs River thread most people seemed to make it more about Summer Glau's superior physical abilities over Gellar's.
It does take Han 16 frames. Sadly for Han those 16 frames are after Chewie has had time to make a nice long growl (13 frames) at Vader. Since we see Han spot Vader before Chewie growls we can see that Han isn't that fast on the reaction speed.
The thing is this isn't so much a contest of Han vs Mal, but more Ford vs Fillion. As with the Buffy vs River thread most people seemed to make it more about Summer Glau's superior physical abilities over Gellar's.
You can see them when they're fleeing as well from Lando's blaster. Clearly they're the blank casings for muzzle flash but...well I'm not sure how you guys want to deal with it. I'd mark it under 'technical limitations' myself.Srynerson wrote:Finally, there's an interesting detail I had never noticed before: in the close-ups you can see the shell casings eject from Han's "blaster"!
True. I didn't include that time, however, since the OP stipulates a quick draw competition rather than a Hogan's Alley-style match. (Not to mention, the time scheme in that scene is rather jumbled -- several events are show sequentially that must have actually happened simultaneously or overlapping.)Kojiro wrote:It does take Han 16 frames. Sadly for Han those 16 frames are after Chewie has had time to make a nice long growl (13 frames) at Vader. Since we see Han spot Vader before Chewie growls we can see that Han isn't that fast on the reaction speed.