clone army vs. zentradi

[Durandal]

That's just stupid. Of course the Zentraedi would win.

[Darth Wong]

200,000 clonetroopers against 200,000 Zentraedi: the clonetroopers are smaller and carry extremely powerful guns. If we assume equal quality of combat training on both sides, the clonetroopers would win for the simple reason that it's easier to hit a 50 foot tall target than a 6 foot tall target.

650 AT-TE's and 50 gunships against 700 battlepods: no contest. The battlepods are lightly armoured and unshielded, and win primarily through sheer numbers, in which they do not have an advantage here. The gunships alone could take them out.

72 fighter pods against 72 Jedi starfighters: if we assume that a Jedi starfighter has a (surprise) Jedi pilot, they win. Without a mammoth firepower advantage such as that which Jango enjoyed (particularly since Obi-Wan wanted him alive, and was not shooting at Slave-1), it's hard to beat a pilot who can react to things before they happen.

[Darth_Shinji]

With the immense advantages I listed.

Does it change the fact that a really really high post-ics force was beaten by a stone-age cculture? Also most of zent weapons are energy weapons by the way.

Except that they're not nearly armored enough to put up serious resistance to the AT-TE's. Simply bombarding them from long range with artillery fire that is equivalent to many tons of TNT exploding at their feet will clear out a sizable portion of them. Do this while moving backward (AT-TE's can move at about 40MPH), and you avoid the shorter-range fire of the enemy infantry while giving the fighters time to clear out the infantry, and you're fine.

Zents are fast as well, Battle pods extrodinary so. And then the whole army of zent can act as artillery as well, and even if you have more powerful weapons (doubtful) The massive amount of zent weapons will kill your AT-TE's eventauly.

The pods can jump around in atmosphere, but 700 of the things vs. 50 gunships is a ridiculously high numerical advantage. Sure, the gunships have the micro-superlasers, homing missiles and all that other stuff, but a 14:1 ratio is pretty difficult to overcome.

True, but also the battlepods and thier varients would take out your artilly first. But then your prediction would be correct.

Don't kid yourself. If the forces started out right on top of each other, probably, but that doesn't happen in real ground battles.

I was taking your scenio into account. But since you already called zents stupid based on how they act in the anime... why wouldn't your clone army acted like it did in atoc? What any army acted in SW? They don't act like real ground battles anyway as well.

[Ghost Rider]

Since you keep bringing up Stone Age culture...I would like to bring up the Zents were defeated by SINGING.

So please stop.

And you have yet to say anything but Zents are powerful and will eventually break through.

The point is will it be fast enough to stop them...the answer if the show is any indication(being harried by human with number being 2000 to 1 is not a good sign given that they were using modified 20th century tech) is no.

[Darth_Shinji]

Since you keep bringing up Stone Age culture...I would like to bring up the Zents were defeated by SINGING.

So please stop.

And you have yet to say anything but Zents are powerful and will eventually break through.

The point is will it be fast enough to stop them...the answer if the show is any indication(being harried by human with number being 2000 to 1 is not a good sign given that they were using modified 20th century tech) is no.

Considering the fact that the whole point of the show was that humans had no logical reason for winning? I have no idea how many times that was pointeed out in the series. And may I remind you that this modified human tech made a destriod mounted black-hole missle.

And may I asked people sources on the gunpods ammunition?

[Ghost Rider]

Have they been shown to do MT damage on Rocks(barring the Cruiser...the Regaults are shown to basically being strong Offense but pathetic Defense)?

Are there really any calculations?

And please no Black hole missles...because were they using GT level firepower on these things and is there anything behind this aside from a name.

Also the only reason I bring up singing because it falls under the same flaw as the Ewoks...the writer made it so. So bringing it up as a weakness is the same as me going the Zents only need to be expoused to singing and they fall screaming or worse yet kissing...and the Clones can walk up and kil them at their leisure.

For the most part the Zents required overwhelming numbers to win...and in an equal engagement with a force superior to the RDF somehow I doubt they are going to take it.

[Darksider]

just to make it more fair to the zents the delta-7 starfighters are flown by clone pilots so who wins a dogfight is based on the tactical capabilities of each craft not the precognition of the pilot