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Posted: 2006-02-16 05:15pm
by Crossroads Inc.
When was the last time the EU produced a ship design we didn't Gag at? Really.. its a valid question and I can't remember back that far...

Posted: 2006-02-16 05:25pm
by Jim Raynor
Lazarus wrote:They've murdered the assault frigate! I liked that design from the Thrawn comics, and they have lopped the back off, curved the front, and slapped some gofasta fins on the sides! :evil:
The Assault Frigate that you know and love still exists, and hasn't been retconned. This new ship is supposed to be the rare Assault Frigate mark II.

Posted: 2006-02-16 05:30pm
by Dark Primus
Wasn't the Assault Frigate built some time AFTER the Battle of Endor???
If that is the case then how come there is a Assault Frigate II in this game?

Why couldn't the game creators stick to canon starships?

Posted: 2006-02-16 05:33pm
by VT-16
Wasn't the Assault Frigate built some time AFTER the Battle of Endor???
I guess that's a retcon then?

Posted: 2006-02-16 05:34pm
by Lord Revan
Dark Primus wrote:Wasn't the Assault Frigate built some time AFTER the Battle of Endor???
in all the games it's in, it's a pre-Endor design.

Posted: 2006-02-16 05:38pm
by Stark
I'd like someone with the game to post their impressions: I'd really like to know if the scaling is really that bad.

Depressingly, I actually prefer some of the old WEG designs: my only exposure to them is in HW2:Warlords, but the ships in that game at least show a similarity of design and linear improvement, whereas what I've seen of the EaW ships features the fucking 'Assault Frigate Mk2'.

Posted: 2006-02-16 08:58pm
by DesertFly
Did you guys read the article for the Assault Frigate, mk. 2?
Starwars.com wrote:Not as numerous as the more common "mark I," the Mark II nonetheless saw heavy use, particularly early in the Galactic Civil War. ... Though a few Rebel shipyards continued to use the Mark II modification and manufacturing scheme, the Rebellion's internally-designed Mark I stood the test of time. It even remained part of the New Republic fleet in the nascent government's formative years.
I don't see where you're getting wank on this ship from. The site makes it clear that it is simply an alternate design, and not a very successful one at that. I don't see anything about it being more powerful than comparable ships.

Posted: 2006-02-16 11:10pm
by NRS Guardian
I don't know why they didn't use the original Assault Frigate, I like the mk. I quite a bit it's definitely in my top 10 of SW ships. Also, yes the Tartan is stupid when they have the Carrack it should only be like 150-200m like it seems the game intended it to be. Though I do have to say the non-EAW-created capships are some of the best looking and most accurately done in any SW video game, particularly the VSD and Mon Cal Cruiser.

Posted: 2006-02-16 11:42pm
by Jim Raynor
DesertFly wrote:I don't see where you're getting wank on this ship from. The site makes it clear that it is simply an alternate design, and not a very successful one at that. I don't see anything about it being more powerful than comparable ships.
Did you read the Databank? The mk. II was not unsucessful, it was just not as common because it wasn't internally designed by the Rebels, and the Rendili design team was purged. It even states that the mk. II came about because some people at Rendili saw room for improvement, and that the ship had Mon Cal backup shield generators.

I called the ship wank because if it's built from a Dreadnaught like they say it is, then the ship was completely hacked apart (I think only the head remains), yet it's still an effective warship.

Posted: 2006-02-17 05:24am
by VT-16
If it really just contains the head of a Dreadnaught and is still 700 m long, then most of it is brand new and I don't see why they even bothered scavenging the Dreadnaughts just for their heads. :roll:

Unless they give good head. :P

Posted: 2006-02-17 11:49am
by nightmare
VT-16 wrote:If anything, the naming scheme of this game helps more than hinders the notion of "frigates" larger than the 400 m mark, as dictated by the WEG Imperial classification system (which only has "cruisers" above that mark), since even Victory-class SDs got classified as "heavy frigates".
Assault Frigate, 700 m. We now also have the Acclamator "star frigate" variant.

Posted: 2006-02-17 12:30pm
by VT-16
And the Immobilizer 418! 8)

Posted: 2006-02-17 02:11pm
by nightmare
Okay, this is just plain strange.

In-game stats, apparently. Somewhat...odd... even for game stats.

Posted: 2006-02-17 03:35pm
by VT-16
Aaah, they still have that stupid "capital ship" classification for the Imperator? Ugh. Maybe it symbolizes ship-of-the-line?

At least there's frigates all the way up to Victory SDs. >D

Posted: 2006-02-18 07:47am
by nightmare
Aside from nothing else matching established stats, yes.