Lord Zentei wrote:The Eucharist has proven human DNA in it?
Yeah, priests jerk off into the batter.
That remids me of the time that there was one of those sundry "bloody Mary" type "miracles" in Italy, and the local mayor, a commie had the blood tested. After all, he reasoned, Mary never had antibodies, and these could be detected.
The blood turned out to have Y-chromosome cells. Hmmm.
Manus Celer Dei wrote:What, are we going to have to update the damn listagain?
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...and I like strudel! -- Asuka
I don't believe that the Catholic doctrine has changed much (correct me if I'm wrong), so it would be easy to test the veracity of the claim for a miraculous transubstantiation.
To this day, they believe in the 'miracle' of transubstantiation, which means that at every Eucharist, the bread and wine retain their form, but their substance changes to the actual body and blood of Christ. Therefore, take a random sampling of elements from several different masses and test them the same way.
If these don't give the same results, well, the claim is debunked. Of course, they won't accept science when it's inconvenient to their beliefs.
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General Trelane (Retired) wrote:To this day, they believe in the 'miracle' of transubstantiation, which means that at every Eucharist, the bread and wine retain their form, but their substance changes to the actual body and blood of Christ. Therefore, take a random sampling of elements from several different masses and test them the same way.
Ahh; see, that's the beautiful thing about transsubstantiation: because the bread and the wine retain their physical forms, to anybody who doesn't believe in the miracle, guess what? It all acts just like bread and wine!
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I think, in view of Catholic doctrine, this particular miracle must be false. I believe that Catholic doctrine requires that miracles be purely supernatural, for if they are proven, it defies the need for faith.
-- Asuka
