Classical Singing Style: I Hate It...

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2006-03-29 05:10pm

You're dead to me now, boy.

Saurencaerthai · Post by **Saurencaerthai** » 2006-03-29 10:15pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Man, don't be a buzzkill and say crap like that.

Fine. You're a pile of musically-illiterate filth and have no right to say jack about music!

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2006-03-29 11:48pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:You're dead to me now, boy.

I like the rest of the film. But ever since I was in high school, I couldn't stand her rendition of the song.

Sriad · Post by **Sriad** » 2006-03-30 12:30am

Frank Hipper wrote:Spanky, you're describing that kind of falsetto, formal, overly trained voice that drives me to fits of violence.

The trilled "R"s, the singing of the word "potato" as "po-TAHH-to" and such...I know exactly what you're talking about and hate it as well.

It may have it's place, but that place is not in some tawdry pop song in a musical of the 30s.

Sing "potato" and hold the middle syllable: Po-Taaaaeeeeyyyy(bigfuckingugly out of tune dipthong)to and you'll understand why they do that.

Better post on this latter, but my laptop's battery is at 10%.

felineki · Post by **felineki** » 2006-03-30 02:26pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Then you're frankly an idiot, because it's been explained or roughly refered to about eight times by five different people in this thread. Either that or you've never seen more than ten films made before 1970.

Well excuse me, princess. As I said, I don't listen to much vocal music. Yet apparently I should have perfect understanding of the difference between "bright" and "dark", or how singing with the throat differs from singing with the mouth, based solely on a few sentences posted on the internet. I beg your forgiveness.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2006-03-30 02:34pm

Look, I didn't know what bright and dark meant either until it was explained. Then I understood it perfectly. Aparently you lack that sort of mental capacity.

Baron Scarpia · Post by **Baron Scarpia** » 2006-03-31 11:57pm

I'm an opera singer. And excessive vibrato is a sure sign of bad technique. Vibrato is NOT a product of vibrating the vocal chords, as many singers do. It's a result of proper resonance. Singers with huge vibratos (i.e. Sarah Brightman) are rightfully mocked.

That being said, opera RAWKS. Don't fight me on this.

Saurencaerthai · Post by **Saurencaerthai** » 2006-04-01 03:12am

Baron Scarpia wrote:I'm an opera singer. And excessive vibrato is a sure sign of bad technique.

Could you tell this to the music theater majors at my school? Please? Pretty please?

Baron Scarpia · Post by **Baron Scarpia** » 2006-04-01 09:22am

Saurencaerthai wrote:
Baron Scarpia wrote:I'm an opera singer. And excessive vibrato is a sure sign of bad technique.
Could you tell this to the music theater majors at my school? Please? Pretty please?

I'll do what some old school voice teachers would do in such a situation--wrap my hand around their throat and squeeze.

If a young singer, especially, has a thick vibrato, they're in for a world of trouble down the line. I'm surprised it's such a problem for your musical theater majors, though--I thought they typically went for a flat (not pitchwise) sound...

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2006-04-01 02:17pm

I had problems even developing vibrato; it sure as hell isn't "thick" in any way. Why would people even try to develop that? I can't imagine that it happens naturally.

Saurencaerthai · Post by **Saurencaerthai** » 2006-04-01 05:16pm

Baron Scarpia wrote:
Saurencaerthai wrote:
Baron Scarpia wrote:I'm an opera singer. And excessive vibrato is a sure sign of bad technique.
Could you tell this to the music theater majors at my school? Please? Pretty please?
I'll do what some old school voice teachers would do in such a situation--wrap my hand around their throat and squeeze.

If a young singer, especially, has a thick vibrato, they're in for a world of trouble down the line. I'm surprised it's such a problem for your musical theater majors, though--I thought they typically went for a flat (not pitchwise) sound...

There are three main problems that I've seen amongst the MT's: 1. Unfettered shrillness as the result of belting, 2. Intonation issues. 3. Laying on the vibrato. I swear, I've stood outside one of the rooms where an MT was having their lesson and wondered how badly they were going to damage their voice from the sound of what they were singing.