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Posted: 2006-07-30 06:45am
by 2000AD
The map as it stands now:

Edited: Because i didn't read the roster list fully.
Edit: smaller

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Posted: 2006-08-01 10:48pm
by StarshipTitanic
So... Are pirates sending in their planets? Seems a bit quiet.

Posted: 2006-08-01 11:09pm
by GeneralTacticus
Well, I'd still like an answer to my earlier question:
I wrote:What system are we using for production and repair?
Are we using the rulebook system, the one in NL's revised rules, or some combination of the two?

Anyway, I'd like to provisionally request the system of Oberal's Verdance.

Posted: 2006-08-01 11:41pm
by InnocentBystander
StarshipTitanic wrote:So... Are pirates sending in their planets? Seems a bit quiet.
Pirates live in the asteriod fields (or nebulas?) of systems, according to the rules they are absurdly difficult to locate; requring a ship to be observing the correct field while 5 ships dock there. Additionally eldar can move their pirate bases, making them even harder to locate :twisted:

Posted: 2006-08-01 11:59pm
by StarshipTitanic
I know, that's why I didn't say "post." I was wondering if they had sent NecronLord their choices.

Posted: 2006-08-02 08:41am
by Prozac the Robert
I'ms ort of waiting to see where everybody picks before choosing a base. I guess I've seen as much as I'm going to now though. (I'm also waiting for a reply to a different PM from NL.)

Also: 2000AD, any chance of a slight shrinking of that map? It's a bit wide for my monitor.

Posted: 2006-08-02 09:09am
by InnocentBystander
Question - how do we take unclaimed worlds? Land some troops, or is showing up with a cruiser enough? What about us poor pirates, can we benefit from unclaimed worlds?

Also, can we build a second pirate base, I didn't see anything about that in the rules.

Posted: 2006-08-02 12:57pm
by 2000AD
Prozac the Robert wrote: Also: 2000AD, any chance of a slight shrinking of that map? It's a bit wide for my monitor.
Done.

Posted: 2006-08-02 03:42pm
by NecronLord
StarshipTitanic wrote:So... Are pirates sending in their planets? Seems a bit quiet.
Can't say that I've noticed, no.
InnocentBystander wrote:Pirates live in the asteriod fields (or nebulas?) of systems, according to the rules they are absurdly difficult to locate; requring a ship to be observing the correct field while 5 ships dock there. Additionally eldar can move their pirate bases, making them even harder to locate :twisted:
That is indeed an absurd rule, and I'd certainly not use it to replace the rulebook's rules.

Posted: 2006-08-02 03:45pm
by NecronLord
InnocentBystander wrote:Question - how do we take unclaimed worlds? Land some troops, or is showing up with a cruiser enough?
You win a battle, and then claim them, in the normal rules. I wouldn't write the rules that way, but at least it's balanced
What about us poor pirates, can we benefit from unclaimed worlds?
In a way: You've got super-sneaky forgeworld equivalent. That represents the resources you get from normal piracy. If you want to do something drastic, like invading a world, you'd probably have to become a 'major power' for that, which necessitates being obvious. If on the other hand, you want to smash and grab everything in a world, win a battle, and the rules let you do that, basically.

Oh, also, on the topic of pirate bases, how do people feel about allowing a space hulk as an orky pirate base?

Posted: 2006-08-02 04:18pm
by InnocentBystander
NecronLord wrote:InnocentBystander wrote:
Question - how do we take unclaimed worlds? Land some troops, or is showing up with a cruiser enough?

You win a battle, and then claim them, in the normal rules. I wouldn't write the rules that way, but at least it's balanced
I though the rules required landing of troops (purchased as shipyard) via ships with transport capacity.
NecronLord wrote:Oh, also, on the topic of pirate bases, how do people feel about allowing a space hulk as an orky pirate base?
No way. From reading the rulebooks I got that Hulks are large, very difficult to control and more or less used as WAAAAAGGGGHH! ferries. The fluff even notes that a Hulk should be captured back at all costs, even if it requires a full chapter of Space Marines. Hulks aren't the sort of ships pirates would want. They need small, fast, agile ships. Give them bases like everyone else.
I'd say give ork players the option of being a pirate power, or a WAAAAGGGH power, which is 2000 points; and their first act is to grab a planet (with a hulk, perhaps?) :twisted:

Posted: 2006-08-02 05:56pm
by NecronLord
InnocentBystander wrote:I though the rules required landing of troops (purchased as shipyard) via ships with transport capacity.
Those would be the horrifically complex additional rules. I'm talking about the basic rules.
No way. From reading the rulebooks I got that Hulks are large, very difficult to control and more or less used as WAAAAAGGGGHH! ferries.
Yah. That's my reaction too, but apparently there's some GW suggestion out there that makes out like it's a feisable choice.

Posted: 2006-08-02 07:22pm
by InnocentBystander
NecronLord wrote:
InnocentBystander wrote:I though the rules required landing of troops (purchased as shipyard) via ships with transport capacity.
Those would be the horrifically complex additional rules. I'm talking about the basic rules.
Oh... I thought were using those rules.
No way. From reading the rulebooks I got that Hulks are large, very difficult to control and more or less used as WAAAAAGGGGHH! ferries.
Yah. That's my reaction too, but apparently there's some GW suggestion out there that makes out like it's a feisable choice.
That is a dumb idea, according to the fluff orks can't even control a hulk in the warp, they just pile in and 'hopefully' end up in a populated system. Giving them full control over a hulk is breaking the fluff as it is.

Posted: 2006-08-03 05:40am
by 2000AD
InnocentBystander wrote:
NecronLord wrote:
InnocentBystander wrote:I though the rules required landing of troops (purchased as shipyard) via ships with transport capacity.
Those would be the horrifically complex additional rules. I'm talking about the basic rules.
Oh... I thought were using those rules.
Yeah, i thought we were playing the advanced rules Necron posted?

Posted: 2006-08-03 08:03am
by Prozac the Robert
InnocentBystander wrote: That is a dumb idea, according to the fluff orks can't even control a hulk in the warp, they just pile in and 'hopefully' end up in a populated system. Giving them full control over a hulk is breaking the fluff as it is.
As a pirate base, the Orks wouldn't have any real control over it. It would sit in an asteroid field acting as a base with a load of ork weapons bolted on it, and with some of it turned into a shipyard. So it would have randomly ended up where it is, and the Orks would just be making use of it. If they completely ran out of people to fight, they'd presumeably move it out to the edge of the system, enter the warp and see where and when they next apear. It seems much more fluff compliant than using one as a full warship, which the Waaaagh! list allows.

Posted: 2006-08-06 01:21am
by Dark Hellion
Bump, so who do we yell at to get this shit started?

Posted: 2006-08-06 04:51am
by 2000AD
I'm guessing when a few more Chaos people turn up. Unless there's a load of pirate players all gunning for the Imperials.

Posted: 2006-08-06 11:42am
by The Dude
If participation is still open, I'll take a Chaos fleet at Indus Prime. I'd need a day or two to put together a list.