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Posted: 2003-01-07 04:55am
by Faram
XP is fucking amazing... :roll:

Got this FONT in mail from a security mailing list.

If I open that font XP promptly reboots, no warning no bscreen no nothing just a reboot.

If you vant to try it out just pm me with your mail adress and i'll mail you a copy.

Posted: 2003-01-07 05:32am
by His Divine Shadow
Faram wrote:XP is fucking amazing... :roll:

Got this FONT in mail from a security mailing list.

If I open that font XP promptly reboots, no warning no bscreen no nothing just a reboot.

If you vant to try it out just pm me with your mail adress and i'll mail you a copy.
Why would we want a virus? or a shitty font?

Posted: 2003-01-07 05:33am
by Shinova
Freely handing out email addresses is pretty iffy too. In other words, we don't want to find out, Faram.

Posted: 2003-01-07 11:10pm
by greenmm
Exonerate wrote:
greenmm wrote: If you're the average computer nerd/gamer/techie, then it does become a nightmare, particularly when trying to play your favorite classic game (especially the non-NT ones) or upgrade your hardware.
You have an option to run a program in a specific environment (Win95, 98, ME, etc.)
Assuming I have Windows XP.

But why should I buy a new OS that I have to run in an "emulator" mode, when my old OS runs the program just fine? I don't just mean games, I mean applications (Office 97 does everything I need, for less processor/RAM and hard drive requirements than 2000, let alone XP), web browsing (web pages look the same on Win98 as they did in Win3.1, so why should they look any different in WinXP?), and any other computer activity I engage in.

Posted: 2003-01-08 02:19am
by His Divine Shadow
Hey, I guess it doesn't matter to you that much that the OS you are running is pure shite, it does to me though, I had enough of it and the constant reinstalls and crashes and god knows what else.

Posted: 2003-01-08 02:24am
by Shinova
greenmm wrote:
Exonerate wrote:
greenmm wrote: If you're the average computer nerd/gamer/techie, then it does become a nightmare, particularly when trying to play your favorite classic game (especially the non-NT ones) or upgrade your hardware.
You have an option to run a program in a specific environment (Win95, 98, ME, etc.)
Assuming I have Windows XP.

But why should I buy a new OS that I have to run in an "emulator" mode, when my old OS runs the program just fine? I don't just mean games, I mean applications (Office 97 does everything I need, for less processor/RAM and hard drive requirements than 2000, let alone XP), web browsing (web pages look the same on Win98 as they did in Win3.1, so why should they look any different in WinXP?), and any other computer activity I engage in.

You have win98?

Posted: 2003-01-10 09:57am
by m112880
I upgraded to XP because i was shit of 98 crashing on my once every couple of months and having to reinstall it when it changed the settings on my computer and I could not changed them back. It would cause my disk drives to run in MS-Dos mode for some reason. Xp runs far better then any other operatoring system that I've worked on. I've crashed Macs more then XP so far. My only problem is I running Xp on a P3 450mhz system.

Posted: 2003-01-10 11:28am
by Archaic`
I'm still iffy on upgrading to XP or not. I've got ME at the moment, which isn't great, but at least since I cleaned out all the spyware and junk on the home network that built up from having a computer inept family, it's actually run with no crashes whatsoever. (Well, that weren't from user error anyway.) Is XP really worth it?

Posted: 2003-01-10 06:33pm
by Vertigo1
Alyeska, XP does not write to the BIOS. I've been running it for nearly a year now and it hasn't done anything to my BIOS. You've obviously gotten bitten by a virus or something.

Shinova: the XP CD is bootable

Posted: 2003-01-10 07:00pm
by Shinova
Vertigo1 wrote:Alyeska, XP does not write to the BIOS. I've been running it for nearly a year now and it hasn't done anything to my BIOS. You've obviously gotten bitten by a virus or something.

Shinova: the XP CD is bootable
1. XP does not write to bios, since I've reformatted, and installed Win98, then installed XP over that.


2. Are you talking about running the XP setup from dos-mode? It doesn't let me do that. (I used win98 setup disk to get into dos mode).

Posted: 2003-01-10 07:32pm
by phongn
Shinova wrote:
Vertigo1 wrote:Alyeska, XP does not write to the BIOS. I've been running it for nearly a year now and it hasn't done anything to my BIOS. You've obviously gotten bitten by a virus or something.

Shinova: the XP CD is bootable
1. XP does not write to bios, since I've reformatted, and installed Win98, then installed XP over that.


2. Are you talking about running the XP setup from dos-mode? It doesn't let me do that. (I used win98 setup disk to get into dos mode).
No. The computer should be able to read the CD-ROM on boot (assuming your BIOS has enabled it) and load directly from there, bypassing any other stages.

You cannot install WXP from DOS. You can create a set of bootdisks to load the kernal and then read from the CD.

Posted: 2003-01-10 11:11pm
by Stuart Mackey
phongn wrote:
Shinova wrote:
Vertigo1 wrote:Alyeska, XP does not write to the BIOS. I've been running it for nearly a year now and it hasn't done anything to my BIOS. You've obviously gotten bitten by a virus or something.

Shinova: the XP CD is bootable
1. XP does not write to bios, since I've reformatted, and installed Win98, then installed XP over that.


2. Are you talking about running the XP setup from dos-mode? It doesn't let me do that. (I used win98 setup disk to get into dos mode).
No. The computer should be able to read the CD-ROM on boot (assuming your BIOS has enabled it) and load directly from there, bypassing any other stages.

You cannot install WXP from DOS. You can create a set of bootdisks to load the kernal and then read from the CD.
can you not dump CD contents to HDD and read from there?

Posted: 2003-01-11 08:30pm
by Vertigo1
No because you need to be in a Win32 environment to run the setup program. (which is fucking stupid IMO)

Posted: 2003-01-11 08:45pm
by phongn
Vertigo1 wrote:No because you need to be in a Win32 environment to run the setup program. (which is fucking stupid IMO)
That's because the installer does a lot more than the W9X installer - which itself only copies important files over, then loads into Win32 to finish the job.

The W9X installer does not need to load device drivers to access hardware, work with the NTFS filesystem or work with multiple architectures like NT3 and NT4 did.

Posted: 2003-01-11 08:51pm
by Vertigo1
Yeah, but its a pain in the ass for those of us that don't have bootable XP cds.

Posted: 2003-01-11 08:53pm
by phongn
Vertigo1 wrote:Yeah, but its a pain in the ass for those of us that don't have bootable XP cds.
Then make one? The instructions are all over the Internet.

Posted: 2003-01-11 09:09pm
by Vertigo1
Ohh I plan to, trust me.