Implications if moon conspiracy theorists were right

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I think this should be emphasized:
Ryushikaze wrote: In which case, you must rig world events to occur as per your prerecorded tape does, over the course of an entire week, have a perfectly automated system to run all this AND the spacecraft over that period, etc. etc. etc. and hope nothing whatsoever buggers up along the way.
What happens if any of your recorders fail? Remember that all missions had their problems.

What happens if a VIP, not part of the hoax, happens to visit Mission Control and asks to talk to the astronauts?

Again, you either need NASA to have technology far more advanced and reliable than necessary to send men to the Moon, or you need so many people as part of the hoax that there would be at least some death-bed confessions in the following 35 years.

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Il Saggiatore wrote:I think this should be emphasized:
Ryushikaze wrote: In which case, you must rig world events to occur as per your prerecorded tape does, over the course of an entire week, have a perfectly automated system to run all this AND the spacecraft over that period, etc. etc. etc. and hope nothing whatsoever buggers up along the way.
What happens if any of your recorders fail? Remember that all missions had their problems.

What happens if a VIP, not part of the hoax, happens to visit Mission Control and asks to talk to the astronauts?

Again, you either need NASA to have technology far more advanced and reliable than necessary to send men to the Moon, or you need so many people as part of the hoax that there would be at least some death-bed confessions in the following 35 years.
1) back-up, back-up, back-up. The radios didn't fail, a tape recorder is not much more complicated than that, since we don't actually have people one the space ship, there's plenty of room for a dozen or so back-up tape recorders. and as has been mentioned, automated missions had already been sent to the moon with minimal difficulty.

2) Tell him that the astronoughts are indisposed due to a technical difficulty, also, you could fool him into thinking he is having a conversation with an astonought on a space ship by having the actors who do the tape recording talk with him from a terrestrial radio.
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ThatGuyFromThatPlace wrote:
Ryushikaze wrote:In which case, you must rig world events to occur as per your prerecorded tape does, over the course of an entire week, have a perfectly automated system to run all this AND the spacecraft over that period, etc. etc. etc. and hope nothing whatsoever buggers up along the way.

Sending fleshbags up, on the other hand, is a lot simpler, and a whole heck of a lot more flexible.
Also, a secondary recorder can be set to recieve transmissions on a secondary frequency and then resend them on the proper frequency to simulate a conversation involving information that could not have ben recorded before taking off.
already covered, read the whole pst before responding.
I did. My response was based on assuming your situation. This isn't a workaround. It's just another link in what is quickly become a rube goldberg device just to fake a mission we could do anyways. You also forget the difficulty of fixing so many world events, such as sports games, over that week. You ALSO need to make sure no one finds this secondary frequency, figures out why it has such a powerful signal, and getting suspicious. Plus, if you're anywhere near smart, you'd need to throw in a decryptor at the point of reception (the spaceship), which is another piece of equipment in an already cramped space, just waiting to go wrong.
1) back-up, back-up, back-up. The radios didn't fail, a tape recorder is not much more complicated than that, since we don't actually have people one the space ship, there's plenty of room for a dozen or so back-up tape recorders. and as has been mentioned, automated missions had already been sent to the moon with minimal difficulty.
It's not the recorder, it's the computer that controls that recording that's complicated. Unless you're suggesting a perfect seven week script.
Actually, given 1960's recording tech, how much volume would the total week's recording have taken?
2) Tell him that the astronoughts are indisposed due to a technical difficulty, also, you could fool him into thinking he is having a conversation with an astonought on a space ship by having the actors who do the tape recording talk with him from a terrestrial radio.
Uh, this is all fine and dandy, but this is more of how they 'could' fake, now how they 'could have' back in the 60's. Besides, you've only now fooled one man, out of the entire world.
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ThatGuyFromThatPlace wrote: 1) back-up, back-up, back-up. The radios didn't fail, a tape recorder is not much more complicated than that, since we don't actually have people one the space ship, there's plenty of room for a dozen or so back-up tape recorders. and as has been mentioned, automated missions had already been sent to the moon with minimal difficulty.
Ryushikaze already addressed this.
Considering how complicated an automated system would be, especially added to hardware designed for a crew (unless you subscribe to the huge conspiracy idea involving hundreds of thousands of people), you need a very good reason for not sending men instead.

ThatGuyFromThatPlace wrote: 2) Tell him that the astronoughts are indisposed due to a technical difficulty, also, you could fool him into thinking he is having a conversation with an astonought on a space ship by having the actors who do the tape recording talk with him from a terrestrial radio.
Then you'll have to explain the Soviets and a whole bunch of ham radio operators all over the world why they are suddenly hearing the astronauts transmitting from Earth instead from space.

The best way to fake it, was to do it for real.

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What started this "Moon landing is fake" stuff anyway?

Is it because of that movie that O.J. was in where they faked the first manned landing on Mars?

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Tsyroc wrote:What started this "Moon landing is fake" stuff anyway?

Is it because of that movie that O.J. was in where they faked the first manned landing on Mars?
Bill Kaysing wrote his We Never Went to the Moon in 1974.
It seems to be the first time Moon Hoax "arguments" are presented systematically.

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Also, if you've recorded a weeks worth of conversation and loaded into the spacecraft with 1960's technology, you'd still need someone on the ship to change the tapes.
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