Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens

[Channel72]

The title is FINE.

I never read the Thrawn trilogy, but the description of it written here seems interesting - a more "realistic" de-mythologized take on Star Wars. That sounds interesting.

But realistically that's probably not the direction Disney wants to go with this. They didn't pay fucking 4 billion dollars for Star Wars just to NOT have lightsaber battles and Jedis everywhere.

Hopefully they have some major characters who aren't Jedi/Sith, and keep the Jedi powers down at OT levels (no superman antics please) and the lightsaber battles to major climactic encounters instead of every 5 seconds.

[Pelranius]

The title is FINE.

I never read the Thrawn trilogy, but the description of it written here seems interesting - a more "realistic" de-mythologized take on Star Wars. That sounds interesting.

But realistically that's probably not the direction Disney wants to go with this. They didn't pay fucking 4 billion dollars for Star Wars just to NOT have lightsaber battles and Jedis everywhere.

Hopefully they have some major characters who aren't Jedi/Sith, and keep the Jedi powers down at OT levels (no superman antics please) and the lightsaber battles to major climactic encounters instead of every 5 seconds.

Well, the concept art to date looks rather grubby, and I doubt that we'll be tripping over Force users the way they did in the Clone Wars.

[Enigma]

I don't mind the subtitle. At least they didn't call it "The Return of the Force" or some crap.

[Havok]

It's a synonym.

[Enigma]

It's a synonym.

Oh, I know.

[Borgholio]

Teaser trailer arrives this Friday:

http://www.polygon.com/2014/11/24/72745 ... er-trailer

[Mange]

Confirmed by JJ Abrams on the Bad Robot Twitter account:

Twitter

"Select theaters", huh?

[Borgholio]

Rumored to be literally about a dozen across the country. They really are trying to drum up the hype for this one.

[Rogue 9]

Here's the list.

[The Romulan Republic]

Like it won't be all over the internet the night it premiers.

[Havok]

Here's the list.

Ugh... I hate going to the Metreon...

[SCRawl]

Apparently we'll be able to view the trailer online tomorrow. So no, Hav, you won't have to go to the Metreon if you want to see it.

[Iroscato]

I was hoping they'd release it. Truly, my body is ready.

[Adam Reynolds]

is this real?

[The Vortex Empire]

No, read the comments, those are clips from fan films.

[Rogue 9]

I would love to know which fanfilms.

[Darth Tanner]

Yes, the space battle scenes are pretty good, integrating Harrison Ford saying is there room for an old war horse makes it pretty authentic, I guess that from a different Ford film?

[cmdrjones]

Fascist I wouldn't say, just rather naive when it comes to politics. The latter however I consider a writing fumble. If this had been written as Anakin hiding this deed from Padme and Padme only feeling that Anakin was hiding some painful experience and this inspiring her to comfort him it, starting the romance, would have allowed for much better character introspection. As it stand however it's more like Padme is either infatuated with Anakin to an unhealthy degree (would you associate with someone who has anger issues to the point of murderous rage?) or she has some severe dislike of sandpeople. Both alternatives make the love affair look less than wholesome which I think wasn't what was intended.

EDIT:
And what Purple said.

Actually her decision to not react to learning about what Anakin had done fit perfectly in my mind to a person like herself. Think about it, she's a Senator, an ex-Queen, a diplomat and probably thinks of her self as a highly intelligent, civilized individual. She may as well have grown up in a golden palace compared to the Sandpeople. Hell the Sandpeople are for all intents and proposes considered to effectively be barbarians; barbarians who are violent, backwards, and ruthless desert pirates. You're talking about a race of people who live on the fringe of a society that already exists on the fringes of galactic civilization. She may have felt sympathy or even a little sadness for what happened, but I doubt it have affected her greatly. She may have wished there had been a way to prevent it from happening, but it had happened, so what was she going to do about it? Add in romantic feelings and a built in sense of cultural, societal, or even racial superiority and you have a not to subtle disconnect from the realities of what had actually happened. It's not like this doesn't have real life parallels. It's no different from how a British officers wife might react upon hearing about an atrocity that occurred in the colony he was posted in, an atrocity that her husband may have had direct involvement in. She would have been sad, maybe even a bit depressed but in the end, she was civilized and 'they' were not.

It's just an idea, just my two cents, but after reading enough history you start to see patterns in certain areas and being first a queen then a senator in the senate of a galaxy spanning republic would, I think anyways, have interesting effects on how a person sees them self and sees others.

Power and wealth always corrupt, but not always in the way we automatically assume.

How many SPEC OPS troops in today's day an age would appeal to a young early 20s liberal female lawmaker?
(Ooh, such a badboy)
Throw in the "im-so-sorry-I-massacred-them-taliban-an-dey-chilluns" and you have the perfect stew of hunky bad boy AND emotional neediness that fits with her rationalization-izer's need to "fix" or "save" said bad boy. This is psych 101 stuff. But, as it has been said, then execution was terrible.

[Simon_Jester]

Out of sheer curiosity, what do the stereotypes of 'liberal' and the... weird decision to lapse into stereotypical black dialect... have to do with the actual idea of your post?

[amigocabal]

No, they didn't. Even if every adult in the camp was complicit in her murder, even if he killed the ones responsible, a decent human being would stop before hacking apart every child in the camp.

The thing is, Anakin was in a complete rage. His mother died in his arms, and the slaughter was an instantaneous reaction to her death.

People do react with violent rage when loved ones are hurt. Anakin was not unique.

[xerex]

Some interesting rumours floating around right now. For me the biggest one is the idea that its not the Imperial Remnant thats around - its the full blown Empire. The "New Republic" is nowhere near as powerful as it is in the EU and is still struggling for survival.

[Lord Revan]

Some interesting rumours floating around right now. For me the biggest one is the idea that its not the Imperial Remnant thats around - its the full blown Empire. The "New Republic" is nowhere near as powerful as it is in the EU and is still struggling for survival.

well that isn't so far fetched, the old EU a large part of why the New Republic was so successful was that the Empire utterly disintegrated after the battle of Endor so the Rebels could pick off the imperials troops in far manageble numbers and also pro-republic propaganda was probably more effective when imperial leaders seemed to be too busy fighting over who has the largest prick to actually maintain order, but if there's an Imperial leader who convince the other surviving imperials that he could be viable heir or at least a regent for the imperial throne and thus keep the Galactic Empire more unified it would reduce New Republic victories and thus keep it less powerful in relation to the Empire.

[The Romulan Republic]

It looks like they've decided to rehash the Empire as the villain, which is repetitive and undermines the optimistic end of Return of the Jedi. I loath it, and no other success by this film can completely make up for such a momentous failure. It also looks like they've decided to add lots of stuff from the OT, which is nice to a point but further reinforces the impression that they don't want to risk doing anything new.

On the other hand, if its true that they've decided to cast a woman and a black stormtrooper as leads, I'll give them some credit for being willing to innovate their.

[Adam Reynolds]

Yes, the space battle scenes are pretty good, integrating Harrison Ford saying is there room for an old war horse makes it pretty authentic, I guess that from a different Ford film?

I believe it was the cameo filled fight sequence in the second Anchorman film.

[Adam Reynolds]

It looks like they've decided to rehash the Empire as the villain, which is repetitive and undermines the optimistic end of Return of the Jedi. I loath it, and no other success by this film can completely make up for such a momentous failure.

Who knows what they will do, the Empire might not actually serve as the main villain in the same sense as in the OT. It could actually be a red herring and the Empire is somewhat benevolent in some capacity. Though the fact that TIE fighters were exchanging fire with the Falcon is somewhat problematic in terms of fitting that theory. However if the rumors are true and Oscar Issac's character owns the Falcon rather than Han perhaps it isn't what people think. Though given that we see him flying an X-wing, I'm not sure how that could fit.

On the other hand, if its true that they've decided to cast a woman and a black stormtrooper as leads, I'll give them some credit for being willing to innovate their.

This alone is an improvement as it makes the movies more relatable to a wider audience. Having it be a black stormtrooper as an important character is also interesting as it also humanizes them.