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Posted: 2003-04-27 11:50pm
by Stormbringer
Sea Skimmer wrote:That would be useful, its far better for faults to show up in practice then in combat. Perhaps a naval engagement and land battle in the Osalon system? Its worlds of Lusch, Gelidus and Neovestral are used heavily for training by our armed forces, and large ranges exist for exercises in the space around them.
Sounds good to me. I believe I'll deploy Agamemnon Fleet and the First Marines Legion shortly so that we can begin joint training.

Posted: 2003-04-28 12:05am
by Sea Skimmer
Stormbringer wrote: Sounds good to me. I believe I'll deploy Agamemnon Fleet and the First Marines Legion shortly so that we can begin joint training.
The Imperial Starfleet will send a Black Forest capital ships, nine Shenandoah armored cruisers and twenty-four FS.96 frigates. We however lack the data to determine an appropriate ground force.

I propose that your marines conduct a landing against Kokand ground forces for a force on force exercise, with the objective of overwhelming them to seize a "key installation." The fleets will fight above them.

Live fire training can be conducted before and after the main force on force exercise.

Posted: 2003-04-28 01:38am
by Arthur_Tuxedo
The UPK is in need of advanced terraforming equipment for its harsh homeworlds, and would be willing to trade generously for them.

Posted: 2003-04-28 01:53am
by Sea Skimmer
Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:The UPK is in need of advanced terraforming equipment for its harsh homeworlds, and would be willing to trade generously for them.
OOC: Such work will be very expensive and probably take a decade or three even if all you need is an altered atmosphere

IC:

The heavy industry of the Kokand Empire could build what you require, but what would you offer in return?

Posted: 2003-04-28 02:01am
by Arthur_Tuxedo
Sea Skimmer wrote:
Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:The UPK is in need of advanced terraforming equipment for its harsh homeworlds, and would be willing to trade generously for them.
OOC: Such work will be very expensive and probably take a decade or three even if all you need is an altered atmosphere

IC:

The heavy industry of the Kokand Empire could build what you require, but what would you offer in return?
The UPK excels in military, agricultural, and recreational drug production.

Posted: 2003-04-28 02:18am
by Sea Skimmer
Arthur_Tuxedo wrote: The UPK excels in military, agricultural, and recreational drug production.
It is unlikely that your star nation has any military technology we would desire, and recreational drug use is banned within our borders. We have already secured a trade agreement for agricultural goods.

Can the UPK offer large amounts of dense metals?

Posted: 2003-04-28 04:50am
by Cpt_Frank
Fuck I'm still alone!
*ahem*

The PIR hereby offers trade and military alliances to interested powers.

Posted: 2003-04-28 05:03am
by The Duchess of Zeon
Cpt_Frank wrote:Fuck I'm still alone!
*ahem*

The PIR hereby offers trade and military alliances to interested powers.
The Taloran Star Empire is always interested in the negotiation of trade agreements.

Posted: 2003-04-28 05:05am
by Cpt_Frank
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Cpt_Frank wrote:Fuck I'm still alone!
*ahem*

The PIR hereby offers trade and military alliances to interested powers.
The Taloran Star Empire is always interested in the negotiation of trade agreements.
Very well. Anything specific?

Posted: 2003-04-28 05:08am
by The Duchess of Zeon
Cpt_Frank wrote:
Very well. Anything specific?
We of course intend to reserve the right to impose tariffs on goods vital to the defence sector should a need be deemed to exist, and shall draw up a relevant list of potential trade sectors where this might occur. Otherwise we will agree to no impositions upon trade between our nations.

Posted: 2003-04-28 05:11am
by Cpt_Frank
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Cpt_Frank wrote:
Very well. Anything specific?
We of course intend to reserve the right to impose tariffs on goods vital to the defence sector should a need be deemed to exist, and shall draw up a relevant list of potential trade sectors where this might occur. Otherwise we will agree to no impositions upon trade between our nations.
Agreed. However what is defined as belonging to the defence sector?
(Since one of the PIR's most important export products actually are small arms.)

Posted: 2003-04-28 05:15am
by The Duchess of Zeon
Cpt_Frank wrote: Agreed. However what is defined as belonging to the defence sector?
(Since one of the PIR's most important export products actually are small arms.)
This will have to be discussed by the appropriate government ministries.

Posted: 2003-04-28 05:15am
by Sea Skimmer
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
The Taloran Star Empire is always interested in the negotiation of trade agreements.
The Kokand Empire would be interested in such, and particularly on the import of dense metals and possibly fabricated components for major constructions.

Posted: 2003-04-28 05:17am
by Sea Skimmer
Just thinking. But a treaty thread should probably be created. Each player would have just one post, which could be edited as needed. This would state there Empire name and what open treaties and agreements they are part of.

Actually, I'll just go create this. Less confusion=good

Posted: 2003-04-28 05:18am
by Cpt_Frank
Sea Skimmer wrote:
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
The Taloran Star Empire is always interested in the negotiation of trade agreements.
The Kokand Empire would be interested in such, and particularly on the import of dense metals and possibly fabricated components for major constructions.
The PIR can offer the Kokand Empire the use of it's mining colony G-3.

Posted: 2003-04-28 05:18am
by The Duchess of Zeon
Sea Skimmer wrote:
The Kokand Empire would be interested in such, and particularly on the import of dense metals and possibly fabricated components for major constructions.
Does the Kokand Empire have companies currently with the capability to engage in large-scale space mining operations? If so, a mutual arrangement in certain areas of Taloran space is possible, if an agreement can be reached, as certainly there are those interested in funding such a project within our nation.

Posted: 2003-04-28 05:25am
by Sea Skimmer
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Does the Kokand Empire have companies currently with the capability to engage in large-scale space mining operations? If so, a mutual arrangement in certain areas of Taloran space is possible, if an agreement can be reached, as certainly there are those interested in funding such a project within our nation.
We have a considerable capability for space and surface mining, and the ability to produce additional capability. What we need are more places to turn this capability on to feed our heavy industry. Outside investment would be welcome.

Posted: 2003-04-28 05:28am
by Cpt_Frank
Sea Skimmer wrote:
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Does the Kokand Empire have companies currently with the capability to engage in large-scale space mining operations? If so, a mutual arrangement in certain areas of Taloran space is possible, if an agreement can be reached, as certainly there are those interested in funding such a project within our nation.
We have a considerable capability for space and surface mining, and the ability to produce additional capability. What we need are more places to turn this capability on to feed our heavy industry. Outside investment would be welcome.
You can use the PIR's mining colony G-3 if you wish. Recently a revolt had to be put down there and so the mine is currently kind of undercrewed. The PIR wants 1/3 of the raw materials as payment, and of course demands that the KE will station no military equipment at the planet.

Posted: 2003-04-28 05:48am
by The Duchess of Zeon
Sea Skimmer wrote:
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Does the Kokand Empire have companies currently with the capability to engage in large-scale space mining operations? If so, a mutual arrangement in certain areas of Taloran space is possible, if an agreement can be reached, as certainly there are those interested in funding such a project within our nation.
We have a considerable capability for space and surface mining, and the ability to produce additional capability. What we need are more places to turn this capability on to feed our heavy industry. Outside investment would be welcome.
With your equipment and our capital, would a joint operation in the Taloran outer colonies be of interest?

Posted: 2003-04-28 05:55am
by mauldooku
Stormbringer wrote:
Badme wrote:The Kelia Alliance would like to make a change to the draft:

the drafter did not consider refined vs. raw in the equation. We apologize, but would simply request raw materials. We are quite fine with refining the material, we simply do not have the raw resource.
We are perfectly willing to send either raw or refined materials. You requested materials not naturally existing and thus would be the product of refining. What specific materials would interest you?
Any Durasteel grade material would be sufficent.
Badme wrote:Advanced tech: Understood. The advanced computers were being bought to be used in the major Kelian Research Labs.
We will consider it. Could we please arrange an inspection of said labs to determine their purpose?[/quote]

Certainly. Inspect whenever you feel like. The primary purpose of these labs is to develop faster FTL and STL drives, although there are also sections for research into improved work implements: mining, agricultural, etc.

Posted: 2003-04-28 07:00am
by HemlockGrey
The UPK is in need of advanced terraforming equipment for its harsh homeworlds, and would be willing to trade generously for them.
The cities of Graecia are quite capable of producing the equipment you require. However, we need assurances that your 'recreational drugs' are in no way physically addicting.

Posted: 2003-04-28 07:05am
by HemlockGrey
We have a considerable capability for space and surface mining, and the ability to produce additional capability. What we need are more places to turn this capability on to feed our heavy industry. Outside investment would be welcome.
The New Roman Empire's factories on Graecia and New Byzantine are quite voracious. We are interested in expanding our mining operations on Trajan and are thus interested in a limited trade agreement with the Kokand Empire.

Posted: 2003-04-28 07:17am
by Sea Skimmer
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
With your equipment and our capital, would a joint operation in the Taloran outer colonies be of interest?
Yes, assuming a considerable portion of the produced metals and ores end up in the refineries of the Empire.

Posted: 2003-04-28 08:59am
by Thirdfain
The cities of Graecia are quite capable of producing the equipment you require. However, we need assurances that your 'recreational drugs' are in no way physically addicting.
In exchange for limited comet mining rights in one of your minor systems, the Floater Republic of Mohaim would provide cheap and plentiful, top quality recreational pharmaceuticals- garuanteed to be free of physically addicting properties.

Keep in mind that the Floaters have the best biosciences.
The UPK is in need of advanced terraforming equipment for its harsh homeworlds, and would be willing to trade generously for them
The Free Floater republics would offer to provide genemodding assistance to UPK citizens looking to colonize inhospitable worlds. While we have limited terraforming technology, we can alter your citizens to allow them to survive on worlds even with the most inhospitable environments. We can also alter crops and food animals to thrive in any environment.

In exchange, we would ask that you withdraw your request for a 5% tariff in the ITA.

Posted: 2003-04-28 10:11am
by FBHthelizardmage
the NNoWL would like to buy recreational drugs from anyone who sells them.

We would also like to buy radiation clean up equipment and the services of mercenary forces. Both would be of great use in cleaning up our somewhat messy worlds.