nBSG: LDYB Pt 2 thread

[Netko]

God Sci-fi fans are morons. I, under no circumstances, want this to turn into a dream sequence. This hasn't ruined the show. It changes it, no question, but it doesn't ruin it.

It isn't. Check out the podcast (surprisingly empty of info otherwise, compared to some earlier). It frightens me somewhat that they apperently don't have an idea of how to wrap this up beyond the first couple of episodes.

Tell me how gutting Raptors makes any sense. They might not have landed ships because of fuel constraints.

Well, they do have 20 or so of them, and considering the state of disrepair of the rest of the fleet, I'm surprised noone came up with the idea. It probably wasn't the best idea ever tho.

The tent city really bugs me. It should have been at least sheet-metal slum style buildings. It's been a year and by this time the living enviroment of the people should have been at least on par with their living enviroment on the ships, not alarmingly worse.

[StarshipTitanic]

The tent city really bugs me. It should have been at least sheet-metal slum style buildings. It's been a year and by this time the living enviroment of the people should have been at least on par with their living enviroment on the ships, not alarmingly worse.

Sheet-metal slum style buildings are built from the waste of an industrial civiliation, which the Colonial refugees simply aren't anymore. Where are they going to get all this extra metal?

Mongols living on Central Asian plains do just fine with felt tents.

[xerex]

Incidentally does anyone KNOW how to manufacture bricks and concrete ? if they lack the knowledge they may simply be unable to do it. take away modern man's mircowave, refrigerater and local supermarket /hardware and he's going to be in a lot odf trouble.

[RedImperator]

Anyone get the feeling that Ron Moore, having seen Trek exhaust itself and fade away, is hellbent on making sure that doesn't happen to BSG?

[Gil Hamilton]

Incidentally does anyone KNOW how to manufacture bricks and concrete ? if they lack the knowledge they may simply be unable to do it. take away modern man's mircowave, refrigerater and local supermarket /hardware and he's going to be in a lot odf trouble.

Brick is damn easy to make. You need mud, straw, gravel (optional), and a sunny day. It's not the most durable kind of brick, but it can be reinforced to last along time. Given they were on a river delta, none of those materials are hard to come by. They were squatting it in, after all.

Concrete is a little harder, since you need cement, but if the planet has volcanos, chances are there is a place where they can dig up a hydraulic lime or something with hydraulic properties. Then it's a matter of mixing it with water in the right ratio and gravel. Waa-laa, concrete.

Chances are there is someone in the fleet who can make concrete. If not, mudbrick is primitive but effective and very easy to make. They may have trouble if it rains constantly, but it's something that will keep the weather out.

[Srynerson]

Anyone get the feeling that Ron Moore, having seen Trek exhaust itself and fade away, is hellbent on making sure that doesn't happen to BSG?

I'm sure that's part of it. He's also been critical of how casual the oBSG Colonials seemed to be about the whole mass-genocide-running-for-their-lives thing.

[Gil Hamilton]

Come to think of it, Roslin has a chalk blackboard, didn't she? There must be a source of limestone nearby if she had that.

[StarshipTitanic]

Come to think of it, Roslin has a chalk blackboard, didn't she? There must be a source of limestone nearby if she had that.

Not necessarily, it could have been taken from a ship. They were using chalk boards to record the ballots.

[General Zod]

Come to think of it, Roslin has a chalk blackboard, didn't she? There must be a source of limestone nearby if she had that.

Or it happened to be on one of the ships and she brought it down with her. Considering the greaseboards a chalkboard or two wouldn't be beyond the realm or feasibility.

[A-Wing_Slash]

They may have trouble if it rains constantly, but it's something that will keep the weather out.

In the shots of the settlements main street, a saw a number of people wearing ponchos or rain coat like things. So it probably rains fairly often there.

Did anyone catch the details of Tyrol's union? Like what they did?

Now that our Baltar has shown his true colors, I hope we see a lot more of the Baltar in 6's head in season three.

[Steven Snyder]

Incidentally does anyone KNOW how to manufacture bricks and concrete ? if they lack the knowledge they may simply be unable to do it. take away modern man's mircowave, refrigerater and local supermarket /hardware and he's going to be in a lot odf trouble.

With Baltar in charge, I find it completely reasonable that they are still living in tents. Tyrol was hinting heavily that much of the production of the colony was being siphoned away uselessly.

[Vympel]

For fucks sake, 7,870 seeds, 20408 peers- and my torrent isn't fucking running. This is ridiculous.

Oh, I'm not talking about this episode, of course ...

[Jason von Evil]

Gaius Baltar you are offically...
A COMPLETE FUCK-UP!

Never has one man fucked so many, so quickly,and so completely

He's certainly beaten both Gene Simmons and Wilt Chamberlain in that regard.

[Gil Hamilton]

Not necessarily, it could have been taken from a ship. They were using chalk boards to record the ballots.

Those were marker boards, not chalkboards. It would seem very odd to me that a space faring society would be caring around a supply of chalk and chalkboards on their spaceships. We are moving away from those

[Gil Hamilton]

In the shots of the settlements main street, a saw a number of people wearing ponchos or rain coat like things. So it probably rains fairly often there.

I wear a raincoat when it rains too, but that doesn't mean it rains all the time. In fact, a river delta were it rains constantly would be a shitty place to colonize when you don't have a real industry, because of severe flood risks and pestilence. They've got an entire planet to chose from, you'd think they'd land in a place with a temperate varied climate.

[StarshipTitanic]

Not necessarily, it could have been taken from a ship. They were using chalk boards to record the ballots.

Those were marker boards, not chalkboards. It would seem very odd to me that a space faring society would be caring around a supply of chalk and chalkboards on their spaceships. We are moving away from those

What about the boards on Colonial One where Roslin was keeping track? That's what I was thinking of, and I think those were chalk.

I wear a raincoat when it rains too, but that doesn't mean it rains all the time. In fact, a river delta were it rains constantly would be a shitty place to colonize when you don't have a real industry, because of severe flood risks and pestilence. They've got an entire planet to chose from, you'd think they'd land in a place with a temperate varied climate.

In the first part, they mentioned that the delta was the best place to settle on the planet. The rest was too inhospitable.

[LapsedPacifist]

They've got an entire planet to chose from, you'd think they'd land in a place with a temperate varied climate.

Wasn't only 20% of the planet habitable?

LP

[Soontir C'boath]

They've got an entire planet to chose from, you'd think they'd land in a place with a temperate varied climate.

Wasn't only 20% of the planet habitable?

LP

I would think 20% would still be a lot unless most of it is a vast ocean. If I googled the right source, ~30% of Earth's surface area is land and if we take this planet to be the same size, that's still a lot of territory to live on.

Still judging from viewing the planet, it doesn't seem to have all that much of a difference where they live, it'd all looks to be the same type of land.

[Gil Hamilton]

Wasn't only 20% of the planet habitable?

LP

20% is ALOT of habitable land.

[StarshipTitanic]

20% is ALOT of habitable land.

Habitable doesn't mean temperate land. If there was a spot better than the river delta, the Colonials would have landed there.

[Alex Moon]

Tents actually make sense. It's obvious they have power, so providing heat and electricity is possible. As long as there are no extreme weather problems, then tents should do more than adequately. More important would be constructing the necessary public infrastructure, such as a power plant or cultibated fields. Until they get a reliable supply of food, they're stuck to hunting/gathering, which requires a hell of a lot more work most of the time.

[Alex Moon]

Tents actually make sense. It's obvious they have power, so providing heat and electricity is possible. As long as there are no extreme weather problems, then tents should do more than adequately. More important would be constructing the necessary public infrastructure, such as a power plant or cultibated fields. Until they get a reliable supply of food, they're stuck to hunting/gathering, which requires a hell of a lot more work most of the time.

[Gil Hamilton]

Habitable doesn't mean temperate land. If there was a spot better than the river delta, the Colonials would have landed there.

No it doesn't mean temperate land, but it means that there must be plenty of good land out there. Landing where they did could have been a good idea, that's what I mean. If it rained constantly, as has been suggested above why mudbrick would have complications, they wouldn't have landed there because setting up a colony with no infrastructure in a delta region that rains constantly is a really bad idea. There would have had to been better places if 20% of the planet is habitable. What I'm suggesting is that it happened to be raining that day, hence the parkas.

[StarshipTitanic]

No it doesn't mean temperate land, but it means that there must be plenty of good land out there. Landing where they did could have been a good idea, that's what I mean. If it rained constantly, as has been suggested above why mudbrick would have complications, they wouldn't have landed there because setting up a colony with no infrastructure in a delta region that rains constantly is a really bad idea. There would have had to been better places if 20% of the planet is habitable. What I'm suggesting is that it happened to be raining that day, hence the parkas.

What rain? There was no rain. Rain was brought up as a hypothetical. We know next to nothing about New Caprica's climate except that it sucks everywhere, but just a little less at the river delta.

Why must there be better places to settle simply because there's huge amount of land?

[Uraniun235]

It frightens me somewhat that they apperently don't have an idea of how to wrap this up beyond the first couple of episodes.

Not surprised; the TNG writing team didn't know how they were going to resolve Star Trek TNG Best of Both Worlds when it aired either.

I was very disappointed that Baltar didn't even think to ask the Cylons just what it was they wanted.