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He was back on Colbert after Super Tuesday. The conversation went something like this:
Colbert: "So remind me, evolution's a fraud?"

HucK: "It's all a fraud"

Colbert: "And we're the one's who think that Jesus and the devil are brothers?"

Huck: "No, that's not us. I'll send you a memo with the bits we need to believe underlined in red"
Colbert's ratings are up something like 15-20% since the relaunch in January, so he must be doing something right.
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brianeyci wrote:
Moron wrote:"I know the pundits, and I know what they say: The math doesn't work out," Huckabee said Saturday morning at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington. "Well, I didn't major in math, I majored in miracles. And I still believe in those, too."
What a fucking moron. Huckabee needs to fry, now. I don't give a shit that McCain "sold out the uniform". Baptist Minister is a hundred times more dangerous.
You know, I'm hardly a Mike Huckabee supporter, but the context of that quote clearly indicates he means he's not quitting the race just because the pundits say it's impossible for him to win (it isn't, mathematically), not that he's opposed to math. You really need to settle down. You'll come off less shrill that way.
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Maybe that's what you see. I see someone asking for a miracle, which by definition is doing the impossible. Rather than coming out and saying there's a thousand left and it's possible, he dismisses math in favor of miracles.

I see a denier of reality in there. If a politician is anti-math you sure as hell aren't going to hear him spell it out, so you have to look between the lines. This is as close as it gets.
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brianeyci wrote:Maybe that's what you see. I see someone asking for a miracle, which by definition is doing the impossible. Rather than coming out and saying there's a thousand left and it's possible, he dismisses math in favor of miracles.

I see a denier of reality in there. If a politician is anti-math you sure as hell aren't going to hear him spell it out, so you have to look between the lines. This is as close as it gets.
Alternatively he was doing what all politicians which is
1) Never admit defeat even when there is almost no chance of victory
2) Rally the base by telling them to believe in you because you are about their "values"
3) Use language like "doing the impossible", "acheiving the extraordinary" or as in this case "work miracles."

Politicians have been denying reality and tlaking about miraculous solutions for as long as there has been public discourse so this is really nothing new. That said I wouldn't vote for him except to delay the Republican nomination and force McCain to actually fight out the remainder of the primary calendar pandering to the right which prevents him from running his campaign to the center and snatching away independents while the Democrats are still duking it out in the primaries.
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brianeyci wrote:Maybe that's what you see. I see someone asking for a miracle, which by definition is doing the impossible. Rather than coming out and saying there's a thousand left and it's possible, he dismisses math in favor of miracles.
Right, because there's no colloquial definition of miracle which has nothing to do with divine intervention. And even if Huckabee really was saying that God is going to make him win enough delegates to gain the nomination, there's still nothing in there about God suspending the laws of mathematics.
I see a denier of reality in there. If a politician is anti-math you sure as hell aren't going to hear him spell it out, so you have to look between the lines. This is as close as it gets.
You know, there's a list of reasons as long as my leg why Mike Huckabee shouldn't be president, so naturally you zero in on one comment that could have come out of the mouth of just about any openly Christian politician and declare it proof that he's opposed to math. I mean, Jesus Christ, how do you even manage to do this? You just look like an imbecile (and put me in the position of having to defend Mike Huckabee, which is not something calculated to make me happy).

Let's save ourselves a long trip down the rabbit hole here, Brian: other than this comment, do you have any proof whatsoever that Mike Huckabee is actually opposed to mathematics?
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No.

I don't like people who walk around and say "I didn't major in math, I majored in X" like they were proud of it. That's why I attacked him. But I admit there's no proof that he's anti-math.
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