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Posted: 2004-09-17 03:33pm
by Captain tycho
Um, Rogue, I have 12 or so orbital fortresses (see OOB) (dreddie size at least) floating around my orbtial installations. You would take some nasty damage from them, at the very least, before you took them out.

Posted: 2004-09-17 03:38pm
by Rogue 9
Captain tycho wrote:Um, Rogue, I have 12 or so orbital fortresses (see OOB) (dreddie size at least) floating around my orbtial installations. You would take some nasty damage from them, at the very least, before you took them out.
With a fleet of that size? Look at my own battlestations. As written, they should be able to hull a dreadnought one on one, and a couple of them might be able to give the Aegis a run for it's money. However, as per the game balance rules, your planetary defenses are not allowed to do that, and nor are mine. My planetary stations didn't do crap to the Asgard fleet at Orodan, and this fleet is bigger than that one.

Posted: 2004-09-17 03:40pm
by Thirdfain
Tycho, unless you devoted part of your fleet count to those defenses, your defenses will be Cruiser-scale at absolute best, and would get pwned by his massive attack fleet.

Posted: 2004-09-17 06:16pm
by Agent Fisher
posted my second STGOD post of all time.

that sounds weird, what i meant was i just posted

Posted: 2004-09-17 06:17pm
by Thirdfain
So you did. Straha, I'm sure, will be talking to you momentarily. As is, you now get the joy of jacking into the newscasts and hearing about the first day of an interstellar war.

Posted: 2004-09-17 06:27pm
by Agent Fisher
Thirdfain wrote:So you did. Straha, I'm sure, will be talking to you momentarily. As is, you now get the joy of jacking into the newscasts and hearing about the first day of an interstellar war.
by the way, any diplomats sent to my nation will be taken to JACKSON station, so dont come to my homeworld.

because you dont know where it is HAHAHAHA

Posted: 2004-09-17 06:32pm
by Thirdfain
Heh heh. All it takes is a couple of days and a fistfull of Kincaid probes, and we'll all know where you live.

Posted: 2004-09-17 06:35pm
by Agent Fisher
but will you even know where to look?

my ships will be taking many random jumps before heading back to JACKSON STATION, and nver back to New Sparta, unless all is lost

Posted: 2004-09-17 06:39pm
by Thirdfain
but will you even know where to look?

my ships will be taking many random jumps before heading back to JACKSON STATION, and nver back to New Sparta, unless all is lost
We only neeed to know the general area. These probes can sweep hundreds of start systems in weeks.

BEsides, complete isolationism will NOT help you. You'll be doomed to a life as a backwater with no major trade.

Posted: 2004-09-17 07:40pm
by Agent Fisher
Thirdfain wrote:BEsides, complete isolationism will NOT help you. You'll be doomed to a life as a backwater with no major trade.
not complete isolation, just isolation from my worlds, you can still go to JACKSON STATION

Posted: 2004-09-17 07:45pm
by Pablo Sanchez
Agent Fisher wrote:not complete isolation, just isolation from my worlds, you can still go to JACKSON STATION
Yes, we all know how well that worked for China. "You can trade with us, but only in this one specific port." Absolute rubbish.

Posted: 2004-09-17 07:52pm
by Agent Fisher
Pablo Sanchez wrote:
Agent Fisher wrote:not complete isolation, just isolation from my worlds, you can still go to JACKSON STATION
Yes, we all know how well that worked for China. "You can trade with us, but only in this one specific port." Absolute rubbish.
but people knew where other ports were


here this is different

Posted: 2004-09-17 07:58pm
by Beowulf
Agent Fisher wrote:
Pablo Sanchez wrote:
Agent Fisher wrote:not complete isolation, just isolation from my worlds, you can still go to JACKSON STATION
Yes, we all know how well that worked for China. "You can trade with us, but only in this one specific port." Absolute rubbish.
but people knew where other ports were


here this is different
And you're going to bet that you can stay hidden... yeah, right.

Posted: 2004-09-17 08:00pm
by Agent Fisher
Beowulf wrote:
Agent Fisher wrote:
Pablo Sanchez wrote: Yes, we all know how well that worked for China. "You can trade with us, but only in this one specific port." Absolute rubbish.
but people knew where other ports were


here this is different
And you're going to bet that you can stay hidden... yeah, right.
im not betting on that, just hoping it will last long enough that i can build up a good sized force

Posted: 2004-09-17 08:09pm
by Pablo Sanchez
Agent Fisher wrote:im not betting on that, just hoping it will last long enough that i can build up a good sized force
Once people know that you're out there, it won't take a week for anyone determined to find you to locate your homeworlds. There are just too many traces that a developing stellar nation leaves behind.

Posted: 2004-09-17 09:31pm
by Agent Fisher
Pablo Sanchez wrote:
Agent Fisher wrote:im not betting on that, just hoping it will last long enough that i can build up a good sized force
Once people know that you're out there, it won't take a week for anyone determined to find you to locate your homeworlds. There are just too many traces that a developing stellar nation leaves behind.
one can hope

Posted: 2004-09-17 09:36pm
by Thirdfain
Additionally, trying to build yourself up to military parity while hiding in your clusters is nearly impossible. The larger empires will always be ahead of you in shipcounts (since you arne't expanding like they are, not nearly as much resources) and your ship crews and officers will be green as grass, and will not be a match for veteran navies like my Hajr or Rogue's Nashtari Navy.

Posted: 2004-09-17 09:44pm
by Agent Fisher
Thirdfain wrote:Additionally, trying to build yourself up to military parity while hiding in your clusters is nearly impossible. The larger empires will always be ahead of you in shipcounts (since you arne't expanding like they are, not nearly as much resources) and your ship crews and officers will be green as grass, and will not be a match for veteran navies like my Hajr or Rogue's Nashtari Navy.
but my people dont know that yet.

and the issues with the expeirence, well they always have large scale TACEX(Tactical Excerises) :wink:

yeah i know we will get but raped in the first few battles, but hopefully my forces will adapt.

Posted: 2004-09-17 10:20pm
by Beowulf
Thirdfain wrote:Additionally, trying to build yourself up to military parity while hiding in your clusters is nearly impossible. The larger empires will always be ahead of you in shipcounts (since you arne't expanding like they are, not nearly as much resources) and your ship crews and officers will be green as grass, and will not be a match for veteran navies like my Hajr or Rogue's Nashtari Navy.
That assumes there is a Nashtari Navy... :twisted:

Posted: 2004-09-17 10:22pm
by Straha
By the way, Fisher, do you want me to respond as if your Navy has arrived, or are you going to post its arrival?

Posted: 2004-09-17 10:38pm
by Rogue 9
Beowulf wrote:
Thirdfain wrote:Additionally, trying to build yourself up to military parity while hiding in your clusters is nearly impossible. The larger empires will always be ahead of you in shipcounts (since you arne't expanding like they are, not nearly as much resources) and your ship crews and officers will be green as grass, and will not be a match for veteran navies like my Hajr or Rogue's Nashtari Navy.
That assumes there is a Nashtari Navy... :twisted:
There is, and I plan on keeping it that way.

Posted: 2004-09-17 11:11pm
by Agent Fisher
Straha wrote:By the way, Fisher, do you want me to respond as if your Navy has arrived, or are you going to post its arrival?
give me some info on what i will see at earth, and then i will decide how to go from there.

most likely a prowler stealth ship will scan from the edge of the system and then report to the fleet.

and will you be attacking me or just very courios?

Posted: 2004-09-17 11:15pm
by Straha
Agent Fisher wrote:
Straha wrote:By the way, Fisher, do you want me to respond as if your Navy has arrived, or are you going to post its arrival?
give me some info on what i will see at earth, and then i will decide how to go from there.

most likely a prowler stealth ship will scan from the edge of the system and then report to the fleet.

and will you be attacking me or just very courios?
No attacking you, what you'll see is a very quiet system with Merchant freighters and various transports spread out among the system and what not, only armed things in sight are two Defense Platforms.

Posted: 2004-09-17 11:16pm
by Agent Fisher
so i am safe to enter the system?

Posted: 2004-09-17 11:20pm
by Straha
Agent Fisher wrote:so i am safe to enter the system?
As of right now, yes. One of the things you'll notice is that Earth's been burnt to a crispy radioactive green, but yes. The Minmatar haven't shown up yet, and I don't have any (apparent) defenses up besides the battle-stations.