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Straha wrote:As of right now, yes. One of the things you'll notice is that Earth's been burnt to a crispy radioactive green, but yes. The Minmatar haven't shown up yet, and I don't have any (apparent) defenses up besides the battle-stations.Agent Fisher wrote:so i am safe to enter the system?
that should provide quite a shocker to my people, and most likely will cause them to really kick into a major military buildupThe status of Earth as a symbol became irrelevent when he attacked you. This is total war, and it is a legitimate target. The USAAF burned Dresden to ashes and it took years for the public at large to shed a single tear, and even then it was more in the nature of "Ah, it's war, whaddya gonna do?"Rogue 9 wrote:Straha, I know that attacking Earth would be political suicide at the moment, but are you really counting so much on that fact?
No. In fact the way we see it attacking Earth, along with being political suicide, would be strategic suicide because THERE'S NOTHING THERE and putting enough troops there to passify our garrison would be so time and people consuming as to make it pointless for anyone to even try. So we moved most of what we deem better used elsewhere, elsewhere.Rogue 9 wrote:Straha, I know that attacking Earth would be political suicide at the moment, but are you really counting so much on that fact?
Actually I would disagree on this. One of the major Propaganda bits against the Nashtar is that they support Genocidal maniacs throughout recent history (the Overseer through the Arcane Empire, the Arcane Empire itself, the occupation of the COG, and now the White Suns,) them returning to Earth to finish up the job would just put icing on the cake.Pablo Sanchez wrote:The status of Earth as a symbol became irrelevent when he attacked you. This is total war, and it is a legitimate target.Rogue 9 wrote:Straha, I know that attacking Earth would be political suicide at the moment, but are you really counting so much on that fact?
The occupation of the CoG? News networks were praising my troops' restraint at the time.Straha wrote:Actually I would disagree on this. One of the major Propaganda bits against the Nashtar is that they support Genocidal maniacs throughout recent history (the Overseer through the Arcane Empire, the Arcane Empire itself, the occupation of the COG, and now the White Suns,) them returning to Earth to finish up the job would just put icing on the cake.Pablo Sanchez wrote:The status of Earth as a symbol became irrelevent when he attacked you. This is total war, and it is a legitimate target.Rogue 9 wrote:Straha, I know that attacking Earth would be political suicide at the moment, but are you really counting so much on that fact?
You were occupying the same worlds as the Arcanists... yet you did nothing to try and stop them. If you had the power to stop the concentration camps but did nothing you'd be considered the same way...Rogue 9 wrote: The occupation of the CoG? News networks were praising my troops' restraint at the time.
In his defense he did refuse to allow me to "help" him administer those worlds. No matter how bad he did, he can always say: "It coulda been worse!"Straha wrote:You were occupying the same worlds as the Arcanists... yet you did nothing to try and stop them. If you had the power to stop the concentration camps but did nothing you'd be considered the same way...
lolPablo Sanchez wrote:In his defense he did refuse to allow me to "help" him administer those worlds. No matter how bad he did, he can always say: "It coulda been worse!"Straha wrote:You were occupying the same worlds as the Arcanists... yet you did nothing to try and stop them. If you had the power to stop the concentration camps but did nothing you'd be considered the same way...
It was an analogy. You see if Rogue had been given the power to stop the WWII concentration camps I hope he would have, other wise he would be been a genocidal monster. He didn't even TRY to temper the Arcanists, same deal different era/severity.frigidmagi wrote:Excuse me, what fucking concenration camps are you babbling about? I don't remember any in the COG.
oh and I still don't get what the fuck you're talking about. The Arcanist behaved very well in the CoG has far has I remembered, you're going to have to refresh my memory.You see if Rogue had been given the power to stop the WWII concentration camps I hope he would have, other wise he would be been a genocidal monster. He didn't even TRY to temper the Arcanists, same deal different era/severity
Chain Lightning into a crowd of civilians, with enough force to obliterate several hundred people. Stuff like that.frigidmagi wrote:I still don't get what the fuck you're talking about. The Arcanist behaved very well in the CoG has far has I remembered, you're going to have to refresh my memory.You see if Rogue had been given the power to stop the WWII concentration camps I hope he would have, other wise he would be been a genocidal monster. He didn't even TRY to temper the Arcanists, same deal different era/severity
They werent innocent. That is my official positionSirNitram wrote:Chain Lightning into a crowd of civilians, with enough force to obliterate several hundred people. Stuff like that.frigidmagi wrote:I still don't get what the fuck you're talking about. The Arcanist behaved very well in the CoG has far has I remembered, you're going to have to refresh my memory.You see if Rogue had been given the power to stop the WWII concentration camps I hope he would have, other wise he would be been a genocidal monster. He didn't even TRY to temper the Arcanists, same deal different era/severity
Mind control, chain lighting, arcane arrows into crowds of civvies, etc., etc., etc.frigidmagi wrote:I still don't get what the fuck you're talking about. The Arcanist behaved very well in the CoG has far has I remembered, you're going to have to refresh my memory.You see if Rogue had been given the power to stop the WWII concentration camps I hope he would have, other wise he would be been a genocidal monster. He didn't even TRY to temper the Arcanists, same deal different era/severity
We gave them stabilityy and freedom, they returned our kindness with terrorism, and murder. Harsh crimes call for harsh punishmentsStraha wrote:It was an analogy. You see if Rogue had been given the power to stop the WWII concentration camps I hope he would have, other wise he would be been a genocidal monster. He didn't even TRY to temper the Arcanists, same deal different era/severity.frigidmagi wrote:Excuse me, what fucking concenration camps are you babbling about? I don't remember any in the COG.
Mind Control=Freedom?Alyrium Denryle wrote:We gave them stabilityy and freedom, they returned our kindness with terrorism, and murder. Harsh crimes call for harsh punishmentsStraha wrote:It was an analogy. You see if Rogue had been given the power to stop the WWII concentration camps I hope he would have, other wise he would be been a genocidal monster. He didn't even TRY to temper the Arcanists, same deal different era/severity.frigidmagi wrote:Excuse me, what fucking concenration camps are you babbling about? I don't remember any in the COG.
Mind control was for their protection so we ddnt have a bloody conquestStraha wrote:Mind control, chain lighting, arcane arrows into crowds of civvies, etc., etc., etc.frigidmagi wrote:I still don't get what the fuck you're talking about. The Arcanist behaved very well in the CoG has far has I remembered, you're going to have to refresh my memory.You see if Rogue had been given the power to stop the WWII concentration camps I hope he would have, other wise he would be been a genocidal monster. He didn't even TRY to temper the Arcanists, same deal different era/severity
So kill an entire planet's population, which sounds a lot like genocide, or fight the monacoran army inside what is essentially a single large building. That means:Pablo Sanchez wrote:...the population is currently huddled in little arcologies... in fact, they're perfect targets.