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Posted: 2004-04-13 12:44am
by Rogue 9
Jaded Masses wrote:I had to run some errands, so I am a little confused about where my ships few ships are, are they a part of any attacking force or are the waiting with some fleet of rogue's?

Anyways, I think I will get the entire war machine running.
They're jumping to Joyous Gard still. No one's autoed your fleet.

Edit: Get on AIM.

Posted: 2004-04-13 12:48am
by Jaded Masses
Rogue 9 wrote: Edit: Get on AIM.
see my edit

Posted: 2004-04-13 05:01am
by Dahak
Bugsby wrote:
You don't get where my ships were. I sent that battle group away from the planet so anyone jumping in towards the planet would have their rear or flank towards the battle group. I didn't jump through them.
Oh, OK. Yeah, now I remember when you moved a portion of your fleet.... well done. I would still like clarification on the type of FTL drive, though....
I use Adamist-style wormhole-ish travel. A series of short instantaneous hops.

Posted: 2004-04-13 07:41pm
by The lost Prophet
Would it be to late to join......possibly be "found"(discovered) on lonly planet by someone coquering planets.

I am a friend of Alyrium Denryle he could vouch for me, but we as friends in no way will impeade me of haveing my own conflict with him. As he knows i have no problem trying to hand him his own ass on a silver plater at times.

Posted: 2004-04-13 07:44pm
by Alyrium Denryle
Oh come now... If you attempt to invade.. you will be butchered...

Posted: 2004-04-13 07:49pm
by The lost Prophet
says you

Posted: 2004-04-13 07:50pm
by Rogue 9
Hehehehehehe. Look what happened to Tycho when he thought the same thing about me. :P

Posted: 2004-04-13 07:50pm
by The lost Prophet
besides....... who said anything about invading anyone

Posted: 2004-04-13 07:50pm
by Alyrium Denryle
true enough

Posted: 2004-04-13 07:51pm
by Dahak
Why invade?
I'll always opt for orbital bombardment.

Posted: 2004-04-13 07:56pm
by Rogue 9
Because we don't have the firepower levels to perform a BDZ and orbital bombardment short of that doesn't get the job done without a ground sweep.

Posted: 2004-04-13 07:57pm
by lazerus
I'm taking the ringworld. Once I upgrade it with my tech, and supply it with those new asteroids i'm mining, it can mass-produce cap ships.


Granted, that's a HUGE investment, but it'll help the economy. Good ol keynenist economics.

Posted: 2004-04-13 08:10pm
by Rogue 9
Laz, you're just presuming that you're curbstomping the best defended area in the Covenant without even letting Tycho have a say. That seems a little... off to me.

Posted: 2004-04-13 08:21pm
by Straha
Rogue, when you say Farpoint do you mean my planet, or is there some other Farpoint I'm not aware of?

Posted: 2004-04-13 08:28pm
by Rogue 9
You have a planet named Farpoint? Should have read more carefully... I have a military listening outpost (secret and none of you know where it is) named Farpoint.

Posted: 2004-04-13 08:58pm
by Alyrium Denryle
Tycho neds to get online so he can respond to our attacks.... I want a fleet engagement....

Posted: 2004-04-13 09:22pm
by lazerus
Laz, you're just presuming that you're curbstomping the best defended area in the Covenant without even letting Tycho have a say. That seems a little... off to me.
Tycho says he has 10large capships defending it, I have twice that, plus support craft and fighters. And we came ready for just this situation. As for the defenses, they are badass, but that's what seige weapons are for.

His solar-flare weapons would be threatening, if I coudln't just hyperspace out of the way.

Posted: 2004-04-13 09:25pm
by Rogue 9
Read his OOB again. He has two fleet divisions at the ringworld. Its the others that have one. There's twenty capital ships there.

Posted: 2004-04-13 09:40pm
by lazerus
OH, my bad. In that case, we are on equal footing, but i'm better prepared, and I've dictated the terms of the battle.

Posted: 2004-04-13 09:41pm
by Alyrium Denryle
You still wont curbstomp him. He has equal forces as well as planetary defenses.

Posted: 2004-04-13 09:44pm
by lazerus
No no, i'm outside the range of his fixed defenses, using long ranged weapons. Read my post.


If he comes out with ships to get me, then we are on equal footing, but i'm in an allready prepped defensive position, ready for him. Plus, as indicated by the special armored missles, the fleet was readied for just this mission.

I might take some losses, but victroy is still mine.

Posted: 2004-04-13 09:47pm
by Alyrium Denryle
defensive positions in space arent really that great. Especially if you have the same weapons ranges

Posted: 2004-04-13 09:49pm
by lazerus
But we don't, I use long ranged tracking missles and energy weapons, he uses non-tracking HE warheads.

Posted: 2004-04-13 09:50pm
by Marcao
if you are settling for a long range missile duel against his fleet, and whatever defenses he has, he is under no obligation to come out to you. Tycho himself has control over his fleet, not you and as such there is no reasonable way for you to duel with yourself, which is pretty much what you are doing. You are acting, and saying how the fleet would the hostile fleet would react (which is not yours I might add) and then deciding that the defenders have no possibilities at all (which is BS in my eyes.)

As for the armored missiles bit, they are either larger than normal and thus you have fewer of them, or they are not as badass as you think. Modern Point Defense is designed to deal with missiles and fighters, so unless these are fighter sized missiles packing a tiny warhead and a LOT of armor, massed point defense should deal with them. Even then, you are still a bit fucked since larger-armored missiles means easier targets for point defense and likely fewer missiles than normal.

I do not believe that any player should be able to unilaterally claim victory, without the consent of the defending player. Yeah, sometimes waiting can be frustrating (it was that shit that killed the last STGOD) but it has to be done. Unless you want someone to pull this shit on your defenses?

Posted: 2004-04-13 09:50pm
by Captain tycho
Well, I'm out. My supposed vacation got canceled, so Im gonna be really busy (again) for awhile. Thats partly why I had my civ start going apeshit. :wink: