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No, 2+2=FISH.

And HUMANS are the domaniant species on the planet!

Alyrium, get over it, you don't have the legal right to give your worlds to the Atlanteans. You are fugitives. The fact that you haven't managed to completely run away yet does not change that.

You're damning the Atlanteans to your fate now. Your insistance and level of partnership is going to be interpreted as yet another Arcanist trick.

Oh, I see. So we're to just allow the Hajr to start grabbing worlds as fast as they can go, are we? Even if the Atlanteans have no legal right, the Hajr has none either. Especially since I'd think that those worlds are still wanted for inspection.

Rogue 9 wrote:Oh, I see. So we're to just allow the Hajr to start grabbing worlds as fast as they can go, are we? Even if the Atlanteans have no legal right, the Hajr has none either. Especially since I'd think that those worlds are still wanted for inspection.

You know, instead of bitching about it, you could always kick his military squarely in the nuts. You seem to think him evil incarnate, so go on, wage your damn war. Get it over with.

Pablo Sanchez wrote:EDIT: Including prototypes of magic-machine hybrids that my analysts have examined and vetted as being plausible. (with Alyrium's exit they are the only analysts currently in-game with the knowledge to state this, btw)

Actually, my people would be able to do scans of that nature as well.

SirNitram wrote:

Rogue 9 wrote:Oh, I see. So we're to just allow the Hajr to start grabbing worlds as fast as they can go, are we? Even if the Atlanteans have no legal right, the Hajr has none either. Especially since I'd think that those worlds are still wanted for inspection.

You know, instead of bitching about it, you could always kick his military squarely in the nuts. You seem to think him evil incarnate, so go on, wage your damn war. Get it over with.

Lets start the next galatic war!

The prototypes do have some residual magical aura and are functional. The only lie in THAT is that the Arcanists helped; they're relics from when the Overseer was trying to learn magic and failing.

SirNitram wrote:

Rogue 9 wrote:Oh, I see. So we're to just allow the Hajr to start grabbing worlds as fast as they can go, are we? Even if the Atlanteans have no legal right, the Hajr has none either. Especially since I'd think that those worlds are still wanted for inspection.

You know, instead of bitching about it, you could always kick his military squarely in the nuts. You seem to think him evil incarnate, so go on, wage your damn war. Get it over with.

Its not that its him. If anyone else had a habit of grabbing every world in reach that was weaker than themselves I'd not be happy with them either.

Rogue 9 wrote:Oh, I see. So we're to just allow the Hajr to start grabbing worlds as fast as they can go, are we? Even if the Atlanteans have no legal right, the Hajr has none either. Especially since I'd think that those worlds are still wanted for inspection.

You want to negociate to inspect the worlds, fine, but the Ouster's main push is for the return of the Floater clusters that ALREADY LIVED THERE, and thus have claim to the territory.

The Arcanists have absolutely no ground to argue from, period. Their request to grant the territory to the Atlanteans is DENIED.

If anyone decides what to do with the space, it's Straha at this point. Seeing as how the Vampires helped take out that Mechanoid base, he's likely to be willing to grant them the territory they've claimed. The Atlanteans are not in a good situation. They are harboring a fugitive of the Arcanists, and obviously have something to gain by having control of the Arcanist worlds. The Ouster claim, while questionable, is still founded in some reality.

Hotfoot wrote:Actually, my people would be able to do scans of that nature as well.

I was not aware; I suppose it is then a good thing that I forwarded the prototypes to you. At least I think I did... did you ever respond to my post turning the evidence over?

Rogue 9 wrote:

SirNitram wrote:

Rogue 9 wrote:Oh, I see. So we're to just allow the Hajr to start grabbing worlds as fast as they can go, are we? Even if the Atlanteans have no legal right, the Hajr has none either. Especially since I'd think that those worlds are still wanted for inspection.

You know, instead of bitching about it, you could always kick his military squarely in the nuts. You seem to think him evil incarnate, so go on, wage your damn war. Get it over with.

Its not that its him. If anyone else had a habit of grabbing every world in reach that was weaker than themselves I'd not be happy with them either.

You certainly seem to act ICly like you have enough evidence to declare him Great Satan and get away with it. So what are you waiting for? Stop this pointless OOC bitching.

Hotfoot wrote:If anyone decides what to do with the space, it's Straha at this point. Seeing as how the Vampires helped take out that Mechanoid base, he's likely to be willing to grant them the territory they've claimed. The Atlanteans are not in a good situation. They are harboring a fugitive of the Arcanists, and obviously have something to gain by having control of the Arcanist worlds. The Ouster claim, while questionable, is still founded in some reality.

And we have documentation! And not electronic or verbal or even plastic, but paper documentation!

The Ouster claim, while questionable, is still founded in some reality.

Yes, the reality of military force. So. I just show up over some random planet that's in dispute with a gigantic fleet and say that its mine now, ha ha Nelson style. Do I have any legal right to say this? No.

Pablo Sanchez wrote:I was not aware; I suppose it is then a good thing that I forwarded the prototypes to you. At least I think I did... did you ever respond to my post turning the evidence over?

I'm running Quantek as a magic analog. It's still somewhat limited at the moment as far as production, but very soon I will start to increase production of various units. SENTINEL will get some very nifty toys that I've had on the backburner for a while now.

I responded to it, basically I'm having the Monacorans I'm covering come over to pick it up while I watch them. We'll look at it then.

Rogue 9 wrote:Yes, the reality of military force. So. I just show up over some random planet that's in dispute with a gigantic fleet and say that its mine now, ha ha Nelson style. Do I have any legal right to say this? No.

Actually, because Thirdfain and I formerly occupied some of these territories (admittedly my people haven't been around for thousands of years, but that doesn't mean much because their immortal), we have a quite legitimate legal right to the possessions we're going after. Now, if the contract with the Atlanteans was being respected by anyone but you and the parties to the contract, then our claims would mean jack and shit. Unfortunately, nobody but you is going to stick their necks out.

Rogue 9 wrote:

The Ouster claim, while questionable, is still founded in some reality.

Yes, the reality of military force. So. I just show up over some random planet that's in dispute with a gigantic fleet and say that its mine now, ha ha Nelson style. Do I have any legal right to say this? No.

Your reading comprehension skills still need work, apparently. I will spell this out for you so you can understand it better.

Floaters used to live in Arcane space.

Floaters had to leave Arcane space.

Floaters now don't have homes, had to room in Ouster space.

Arcanists leave Arcane space, making it safe for Floaters again.

Ousters provide cover so that returning Floaters don't get slaughtered by any opprotunistic forces in the area.

Floaters come back home.

Do you get it now?

Pablo Sanchez wrote:And we have documentation! And not electronic or verbal or even plastic, but paper documentation!

Oooh, paper! How quaint!

Hotfoot wrote:Oooh, paper! How quaint!

Some of them are on parchment, actually. The deeds predate the invention of electronic data storage. Around the time your people were probably learning how to mix copper and tin to make bronze, my people were writing up this documentation

Lazerus:
Looking at your OOB post... looks like space hippies; it ought to be fun

Pablo Sanchez wrote: Looking at your OOB post... looks like space hippies; it ought to be fun

An unholy cross between space hippies and the borg.

Be one with the collective.........and nature!

Pablo Sanchez wrote:Some of them are on parchment, actually. The deeds predate the invention of electronic data storage. Around the time your people were probably learning how to mix copper and tin to make bronze, my people were writing up this documentation

Quite possibly, our extremely extended lifespans are a relatively recent development, which is why we're overpopulated so much right now, and why I'll be making a play for a few of those planets myself.

Hotfoot wrote:Quite possibly, our extremely extended lifespans are a relatively recent development, which is why we're overpopulated so much right now, and why I'll be making a play for a few of those planets myself.

They're real fixer-uppers, without any real infrastructure. The vampire plan is to make them raw material producers, either by mining or conversion into agricultural centers. It would be rather expensive and difficult to make them liveable for large populations, but it could be done. In other words, make me an offer--or if you're willing to risk it, try to grab something

Laz, gotta say it. You're gonna die.

And why is the daily backup happening now? Doesn't it usually do that around 5:00 am EST?

Rogue 9 wrote:Laz, gotta say it. You're gonna die.

And why is the daily backup happening now? Doesn't it usually do that around 5:00 am EST?

I am not!

and I dunno.

Pablo Sanchez wrote:They're real fixer-uppers, without any real infrastructure.

Just what we were shooting for, actually. It's ironic, but the great search I started way back when I first wrote my OOB has come to a curious conclusion here in this situation. Basically I'm going to start bleeding my excess population to the new worlds and start the long buildup. It's not so much an expansion of my power, it will take a long time for the colonies to be hugely profitable, but I've got a few plans for making up for the loss.

There are a few things I put into my OOB that can be used against me. This is one of them

The vampire plan is to make them raw material producers, either by mining or conversion into agricultural centers. It would be rather expensive and difficult to make them liveable for large populations, but it could be done. In other words, make me an offer--or if you're willing to risk it, try to grab something

Well, how many of the Arcanist worlds are you laying claim to? All of them? I'm thinking of trying to get two or three planets at the moment, but that's about it.

As I recall, the Arcanists only have six. I'll have to check on that, though. Aber-Toril, Oerth, Ravenloft, wherever Dragonlance is... *Goes to the OOB thread.*