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Exxxxcellent ... another chapter! I was starting to get the shakes.

LadyTevar wrote:Somehow I think the Shower Scene from Psycho just got replaced.

The question is how many other people will get caught in the shower as they remove their foil hats to bathe?

I would expect a brisk business in renovation to add conductive linings to homes and other areas so that people can relax and not be forced to wear their hats 24/7.

Darth Wong wrote:Exxxxcellent ... another chapter! I was starting to get the shakes.

LadyTevar wrote:Somehow I think the Shower Scene from Psycho just got replaced.

The question is how many other people will get caught in the shower as they remove their foil hats to bathe?

I would expect a brisk business in renovation to add conductive linings to homes and other areas so that people can relax and not be forced to wear their hats 24/7.

Well, that's what Norman did to his home. I don't really know if there's enough aluminum to do every home in America, though, let alone the world.

CaptainChewbacca wrote:

Darth Wong wrote:Exxxxcellent ... another chapter! I was starting to get the shakes.

LadyTevar wrote:Somehow I think the Shower Scene from Psycho just got replaced.

The question is how many other people will get caught in the shower as they remove their foil hats to bathe?

I would expect a brisk business in renovation to add conductive linings to homes and other areas so that people can relax and not be forced to wear their hats 24/7.

Well, that's what Norman did to his home. I don't really know if there's enough aluminum to do every home in America, though, let alone the world.

Why does it have to be aluminum? Any conductive metal should do the trick.

PS. The "Cleaned-Up" copy has been updated.

The part with the elderly Korean War vets fighting off the baldrick with bolt-action rifles and bayonets is quite possibly the single most awesome part of this story I've read so far. I mean, in all seriousness, I started shedding manly tears when I read that part.

There seems to be some significant forces going into Hell. Care to put up at least a back-of-the-envelope OOB Stuart?

From what I can gather there is at least an armoured Brigade of the US Army ( they've been going back and forth etc so its hard to tell ), an Isreali and a Russian armoured division have gone thorough and now a German Panzer Division? I hope command and control are better than with ABDA at the Battle of the Java Sea!!

Chris OFarrell wrote:It reminds me of the Arecibo Radio Telescope, if I'm surprisingly this correctly, with the 'crater' under it the active volcano.

Pretty much. The crater is of a similar size. The 'shrines' resemble this antenna design;



There are three of these around the rim, pointed at the centre of the crater. At the focus of each is a group of snake-demons, facing outwards (towards the reflector dish).

I would expect a brisk business in renovation to add conductive linings to homes and other areas so that people can relax and not be forced to wear their hats 24/7.

There is, but it takes a long time to refit many millions of buildings. This one was near the bottom of the priority list, for reasons that will soon become apparent.

P.S. Looks like the volcano segment got double-labelled; 'Okthuura Jorkastrequar, Tartaruan Range, borderlands of Hell, Tartaruan Mountains, borderlands of Hell'

tim31 wrote:I assume for her vanity(washing her hair). Refer to the Divine Comedy for who goes where when they die, based on what they did in life.

Thanks for the link/explanation. But seriously, performing self-performance = vanity in their book? *Hand in hands*

Good job you guys (demons), good flippin' job.

Starglider wrote:P.S. Looks like the volcano segment got double-labelled; 'Okthuura Jorkastrequar, Tartaruan Range, borderlands of Hell, Tartaruan Mountains, borderlands of Hell'

I used my voodoo powers to change the "cleaned up" version so that all of the posts are in Stuart's name, so he might be able to edit those posts. I can't be sure unless he tries it.

Darth Wong wrote: I used my voodoo powers to change the "cleaned up" version so that all of the posts are in Stuart's name, so he might be able to edit those posts. I can't be sure unless he tries it.

Thank's for the ahrd work Mike, its appreciated. Sadly, I tried to do an edit to correct the double-description but it won't let me. No problem; I've fixed it here and in my copies so the dead tree version will be right.

PS Do you think I'll get excommunicated for publishing this?

Stuart wrote:

Darth Wong wrote: I used my voodoo powers to change the "cleaned up" version so that all of the posts are in Stuart's name, so he might be able to edit those posts. I can't be sure unless he tries it.

Thank's for the ahrd work Mike, its appreciated. Sadly, I tried to do an edit to correct the double-description but it won't let me. No problem; I've fixed it here and in my copies so the dead tree version will be right.

Do you want to try it again? I noticed a glitch in the permissions which might be the problem, and I think I fixed it.

PS Do you think I'll get excommunicated for publishing this?

I dunno ... how often are people excommunicated? Does that seriously happen a lot? I remember reading that Hitler was never excommunicated, so I have to wonder what you have to do in order to get the boot.

Nice chapter. It's good to see what's happening in the sectors of the story I'm not too involved with, and I appreciated the description of the mechanical might of Earth flowing through the Hellmouth.

PS- Nice dig on Peak Oil, Stuart.

AdmiralKanos wrote:I dunno ... how often are people excommunicated? Does that seriously happen a lot? I remember reading that Hitler was never excommunicated, so I have to wonder what you have to do in order to get the boot.

Be pro-choice and take communion.

Stuart wrote:PS Do you think I'll get excommunicated for publishing this?

Although you could theoretically be excommunicated for heresy (assuming you're a catholic, by definition non-catholics can't be excommunicated) I doubt anyone'll be willing to actually go through the effort. I mean, I would hope those ecclesiastical judges would have something better to do with their time, but you never know... Maybe one of 'em will be sufficiently peeved off by your excellent writings to go through the motions just to get you .

That could be great publicity for you. It's not every day someone gets excommunicated...

AdmiralKanos wrote: I dunno ... how often are people excommunicated? Does that seriously happen a lot? I remember reading that Hitler was never excommunicated, so I have to wonder what you have to do in order to get the boot.

There were a bunch of Nuns in Missouri that got booted for worshipping Mary instead of merely venerating her.

If baldricks can seemingly reach into the east with the same amount of ease as they can into western countries then it stands to reason they should have been able to do it before.

Is there an in-universe explanation for the lack of mythology in eastern countries pertaining to demons and the Judeo-Christian God like you'd find in western texts? It seems a bit wasteful for Yahweh to let an entire continent go without singing his never ending praise.

Or maybe there are and I'm just ignorant of history.

Zim wrote:If baldricks can seemingly reach into the east with the same amount of ease as they can into western countries then it stands to reason they should have been able to do it before.

Is there an in-universe explanation for the lack of mythology in eastern countries pertaining to demons and the Judeo-Christian God like you'd find in western texts? It seems a bit wasteful for Yahweh to let an entire continent go without singing his never ending praise.

Or maybe there are and I'm just ignorant of history.

The Nestorian Church made impressive inroads into East Asia, and of course Islam converted huge chucks of SE Asia.

Zim wrote:If baldricks can seemingly reach into the east with the same amount of ease as they can into western countries then it stands to reason they should have been able to do it before.

Is there an in-universe explanation for the lack of mythology in eastern countries pertaining to demons and the Judeo-Christian God like you'd find in western texts? It seems a bit wasteful for Yahweh to let an entire continent go without singing his never ending praise.

Or maybe there are and I'm just ignorant of history.

It's possible that the brain chemistry of eastern people is a bit more resistant to their telepathic communication power. I'm not just making this up; researchers have discovered a link between spatial reasoning abilities and religiosity: specifically, religious "out of body experiences" occur when the part of your brain that controls your awareness of location in 3d-space malfunctions. Supposedly, certain ethnicities have a lower cultural incidence of belief in religious out-of-body experiences because they have slightly more resistance to this phenomenon, hence they don't experience it as much. This has been advanced as one of the reasons why certain kinds of religious belief were not that successful in China, why Chinese deities ended up being treated like just another government bureaucracy, and why Chinese people are more apt to worship their own ancestors than something that is disconnected from space and time.

So, it's possible, within the context of this story, that Yahweh had a lot of trouble enthralling people in China, so he gave up. Sending demons and angels to attack them would only provoke a military response, not a spiritual one.

Another possible explanation would be that the spread of the Nephilim limited the spread of Yahweh's ideology, and that they didn't spread far beyond the Middle East for a long time. Today, as they say, "the world is flat" and people go everywhere.

Darth Wong wrote: Why does it have to be aluminum? Any conductive metal should do the trick.

Aluminum would probably be the best candidate, as it is cheap and plentiful, and it draws out well, into thin foils. I suspect screen would work as well. The windows would probably want to be screened.

Zim wrote:If baldricks can seemingly reach into the east with the same amount of ease as they can into western countries then it stands to reason they should have been able to do it before.

Is there an in-universe explanation for the lack of mythology in eastern countries pertaining to demons and the Judeo-Christian God like you'd find in western texts? It seems a bit wasteful for Yahweh to let an entire continent go without singing his never ending praise.

Or maybe there are and I'm just ignorant of history.

What do you mean by the lack of mythology though? In history, Christianity was relatively successful in spreading into China and its lack of success is only viewed that way when compared against other religions such as Buddhism and Taoism which were there first. Read Romance of the Three Kingdoms, a Ming Dynasty novel in which the author blatantly copied the King Solomon story to illustrate the brilliance of Pang Tong.

In terms of demons/hell/god, there are mythological equivalent. Unlike the Middle East, the animist beliefs of China was never formally exterminated when the monarchy like religion of God as King and King as his mortal representatives evolved in Europe. They were merged together instead, so that Nuwa, a serpent like god evolved into a female deity who's part of the pantheon of Gods serving under the Jade Emperor. Christianity simply demoted the lesser gods and placed them as Angels and saints instead. Similarly, hell evolved from a hellish place of punishment and suffering into a court of law when Buddhism and its "gentler" mythology became popular in China, thus creating a revision of the underworld. Unfortunately, I'm not too sure when this occurred or the archaelogical evidence. The 9 circles of hell could easily be compared to the 18 levels of hell in Chinese mythology, although the physical environment was different.

I found the tale of the ten Chinese veterans to be incredibly human, selfless, touching and downright awesome. Christ, that was incredible. Really, a true story of heroism. Those geezers killed it with bayonets! And... man, what patriotism. *sheds tear*

Yes, I think the best parts of this story are the little human bits, where we demonstrate that is not just our fancy toys but our indominatable will that has lead us this far.

Also, I think the only real chance for Canada to make a contribution to this story would be to have a little side bit about people from Windsor pouring over the Detroit River to lend aid and assistance to their neighbours in the wake of the attack.

That would be touching. A display of human compassion, something those immortal motherfuckers don't have and can't understand. I mean, if this story can encompass more than just one-sided warslaughter and get bits of sacrifice and heroism, discourses on reason and science, and feature moments of compassion and stuff, and this story will become a really complete tale of humanity.

A feel good story where we feel good by killing all the angels and demons, God and the Devil. Outstanding.

PainRack wrote:Read Romance of the Three Kingdoms, a Ming Dynasty novel in which the author blatantly copied the King Solomon story to illustrate the brilliance of Pang Tong.

What was this? Saw Pang Tong's participation in Chi Bi and saw nothing so like it so far.

A display of human compassion, something those immortal motherfuckers don't have and can't understand.

Actually, the demons that accompanied Abigor got something like it, as was clearly shown during their retreat (before the "debrief" with Satan), and this was discussed further back in the thread.

Admittedly I would have preferred one-sided warslaughter, but one-sided warslaughter plus all the demon stuff = FUCK YEAH

JBG wrote:There seems to be some significant forces going into Hell. Care to put up at least a back-of-the-envelope OOB Stuart?

From what I can gather there is at least an armoured Brigade of the US Army ( they've been going back and forth etc so its hard to tell ), an Isreali and a Russian armoured division have gone thorough and now a German Panzer Division? I hope command and control are better than with ABDA at the Battle of the Java Sea!!

The western forces should be ok thanks to a few agreements made between the five Anglo-Saxon nations after the war on such matters.

Academia Nut wrote:Yes, I think the best parts of this story are the little human bits, where we demonstrate that is not just our fancy toys but our indominatable will that has lead us this far.

I think that's the best part of The Seer's writing, and that's the best of a great lot. He makes unbelievable situations believable. I mean, c'mon, fighting devils? But the devils take on personalities that are believable, as do the people, and we accept them as rounded characters. It's the critical detail that makes this stuff so powerful, and what distinguishes it from geek fiction.