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Posted: 2004-05-22 01:15pm
by lazerus
SirNitram wrote:lazerus wrote:SirNitram wrote:
Probability control device.
Of course, since you're a retard, you can't fathom that that defines the effects possible, not the method to get there.
Once again. What you want is above the tech level for the STGOD. Therefore, you cannot have it, you powergaming peice of whiny shit.
Look, take Polymorph Other for example. No tek race can instantly morph you into another form. Can't be done.
But none of you objected to that BECAUSE IT'S FUCKING USELESS! The fact that you can't do it does NOT make it broken!
It's not a matter of broken. It's a matter of a direct contradiction to the rules agreed upon to start this STGOD. Your technology exceeds DS9 level, therefore you cannot have it.
I'm getting bored repeating myself. Actually try to come up with something other than mindless screeching, okay?
"Your technology exceeds DS9 level, therefore you cannot have it."
The ability to instantly morph creatures is ALSO beyond the DS9 tek level.
Posted: 2004-05-22 01:15pm
by lazerus
SirNitram wrote:lazerus wrote:2) Ok, massive amounts of power........would two or three stations DEDICATED ENTIRLY TO POWER GENERATION fit that requirement!?
Some physics major you are. DS9 tech level power generation is too meagre to generate the energy to produce the sheer mass of a wormhole.
I think we have allready established that this isn't "hard" sciencefiction.
Posted: 2004-05-22 01:17pm
by SirNitram
lazerus wrote:"Your technology exceeds DS9 level, therefore you cannot have it."
The ability to instantly morph creatures is ALSO beyond the DS9 tek level.
I do not recall Alyrium putting this to use. Who was it with the P-O staffs.. Hrm... Hrm... IT'S YOU! Oh yea. You were the one powergaming that way!
Posted: 2004-05-22 01:18pm
by SirNitram
lazerus wrote:SirNitram wrote:lazerus wrote:2) Ok, massive amounts of power........would two or three stations DEDICATED ENTIRLY TO POWER GENERATION fit that requirement!?
Some physics major you are. DS9 tech level power generation is too meagre to generate the energy to produce the sheer mass of a wormhole.
I think we have allready established that this isn't "hard" sciencefiction.
'Crap, I revealed my utter lack of knowledge on the subject! RUN AWAY!'
Anytime you want to stop screeching and whining and start obeying the rules would be nifty.
Posted: 2004-05-22 01:18pm
by lazerus
SirNitram wrote:lazerus wrote:"Your technology exceeds DS9 level, therefore you cannot have it."
The ability to instantly morph creatures is ALSO beyond the DS9 tek level.
I do not recall Alyrium putting this to use. Who was it with the P-O staffs.. Hrm... Hrm... IT'S YOU! Oh yea. You were the one powergaming that way!
Aly said he HAD it, and I never used it for anything.
Aly said he had it, you didn't object. My point stands.
Posted: 2004-05-22 01:20pm
by Thirdfain
Nice post, Pablo, and you caught my rep's reaction exactly. WTF is going on? Frankly, I was as confused by your King's words as Aleksandra was...
Posted: 2004-05-22 01:21pm
by SirNitram
lazerus wrote:SirNitram wrote:lazerus wrote:"Your technology exceeds DS9 level, therefore you cannot have it."
The ability to instantly morph creatures is ALSO beyond the DS9 tek level.
I do not recall Alyrium putting this to use. Who was it with the P-O staffs.. Hrm... Hrm... IT'S YOU! Oh yea. You were the one powergaming that way!
Aly said he HAD it, and I never used it for anything.
Aly said he had it, you didn't object. My point stands.
Actually, the objections to Aly were repeatedly made. Maybe if you weren't a retard, you'd notice them.
Posted: 2004-05-22 01:21pm
by lazerus
SirNitram wrote:lazerus wrote:SirNitram wrote:
Some physics major you are. DS9 tech level power generation is too meagre to generate the energy to produce the sheer mass of a wormhole.
I think we have allready established that this isn't "hard" sciencefiction.
'Crap, I revealed my utter lack of knowledge on the subject! RUN AWAY!'
Anytime you want to stop screeching and whining and start obeying the rules would be nifty.
I am obeying the rules of game balence. The ability to send ships really fast is offset by the massive lack of tactical manuverability, and the fact that you only can send ships one at a time. It's a bit beyond the DS9 tech llevel, but nothing we havn't seen other races that were marginally more advanced than the feds use. (like the catapult episode of Voyager).
If pablo says this is broken, he's right of course. Until then, you can stop ranting because i'm not listening.
Posted: 2004-05-22 01:22pm
by lazerus
SirNitram wrote:lazerus wrote:SirNitram wrote:
I do not recall Alyrium putting this to use. Who was it with the P-O staffs.. Hrm... Hrm... IT'S YOU! Oh yea. You were the one powergaming that way!
Aly said he HAD it, and I never used it for anything.
Aly said he had it, you didn't object. My point stands.
Actually, the objections to Aly were repeatedly made. Maybe if you weren't a retard, you'd notice them.
I did notice them, I also noticed that they DIDN'T STAND as far as shapeshifting and polymorph other were concerned.
Posted: 2004-05-22 01:22pm
by SirNitram
lazerus wrote:I am obeying the rules of game balence. The ability to send ships really fast is offset by the massive lack of tactical manuverability, and the fact that you only can send ships one at a time. It's a bit beyond the DS9 tech llevel, but nothing we havn't seen other races that were marginally more advanced than the feds use. (like the catapult episode of Voyager).
If pablo says this is broken, he's right of course. Until then, you can stop ranting because i'm not listening.
There is no part of the rules dictating you may massively exceed the tech level for a tradeoff.
Posted: 2004-05-22 01:22pm
by SirNitram
lazerus wrote:SirNitram wrote:lazerus wrote:
Aly said he HAD it, and I never used it for anything.
Aly said he had it, you didn't object. My point stands.
Actually, the objections to Aly were repeatedly made. Maybe if you weren't a retard, you'd notice them.
I did notice them, I also noticed that they DIDN'T STAND as far as shapeshifting and polymorph other were concerned.
Despite your delusions of mediocrity, you are not telepathic. Objections were raised, which is why that power went silent.
Posted: 2004-05-22 01:22pm
by lazerus
SirNitram wrote:lazerus wrote:I am obeying the rules of game balence. The ability to send ships really fast is offset by the massive lack of tactical manuverability, and the fact that you only can send ships one at a time. It's a bit beyond the DS9 tech llevel, but nothing we havn't seen other races that were marginally more advanced than the feds use. (like the catapult episode of Voyager).
If pablo says this is broken, he's right of course. Until then, you can stop ranting because i'm not listening.
There is no part of the rules dictating you may massively exceed the tech level for a tradeoff.
Read the post your quoting dumbass.
It's a bit beyond the DS9 tech llevel, but nothing we havn't seen other races that were marginally more advanced than the feds use. (like the catapult episode of Voyager).
Posted: 2004-05-22 01:23pm
by SirNitram
lazerus wrote:SirNitram wrote:lazerus wrote:I am obeying the rules of game balence. The ability to send ships really fast is offset by the massive lack of tactical manuverability, and the fact that you only can send ships one at a time. It's a bit beyond the DS9 tech llevel, but nothing we havn't seen other races that were marginally more advanced than the feds use. (like the catapult episode of Voyager).
If pablo says this is broken, he's right of course. Until then, you can stop ranting because i'm not listening.
There is no part of the rules dictating you may massively exceed the tech level for a tradeoff.
Read the post your quoting dumbass.
It's a bit beyond the DS9 tech llevel, but nothing we havn't seen other races that were marginally more advanced than the feds use. (like the catapult episode of Voyager).
'I saw an episode and I don't think it exceeds the tech level and I am right!'.
A race of the week having the tech is not the same as it being DS9 tech level. Try again, dipshit.
Posted: 2004-05-22 01:27pm
by lazerus
SirNitram wrote:lazerus wrote:SirNitram wrote:
There is no part of the rules dictating you may massively exceed the tech level for a tradeoff.
Read the post your quoting dumbass.
It's a bit beyond the DS9 tech llevel, but nothing we havn't seen other races that were marginally more advanced than the feds use. (like the catapult episode of Voyager).
'I saw an episode and I don't think it exceeds the tech level and I am right!'.
A race of the week having the tech is not the same as it being DS9 tech level. Try again, dipshit.
See, there is this thing, it's called "Balence" I woudln't expect you to understand. But roughly what it means is that when you gain an ability for a massive trade off ISN'T NOT FUCKING BROKEN.
We have seen races in trek use this, and if and when pablo says this is broken i'll pay attention. Until then you can keep posting whatever the hell you want, cause i'm not listening.
Posted: 2004-05-22 01:28pm
by Pablo Sanchez
Thirdfain wrote:Nice post, Pablo, and you caught my rep's reaction exactly. WTF is going on? Frankly, I was as confused by your King's words as Aleksandra was...
It will make perfect sense eventually, if the game's pace ever skips from the current "glacial" speed back up to the more comfortable clip we had towards the beginning.
Posted: 2004-05-22 01:30pm
by Hotfoot
If this is the bullshit we're going to have to put up with every time Laz gets a new power, then I say we don't give him the chance any more.
I move that Laz be banned from the STGOD.
Posted: 2004-05-22 01:31pm
by SirNitram
lazerus wrote:See, there is this thing, it's called "Balence" I woudln't expect you to understand. But roughly what it means is that when you gain an ability for a massive trade off ISN'T NOT FUCKING BROKEN.
Your double negative is exceptionally appropriate. While you can screech about me not knowing what balance is, I'm not the one who directly cheated to get a 'Wish' power, and of course I can spell the word.
Again. There is no rule permitting a tradeoff for a massive boost in tech.
We have seen races in trek use this, and if and when pablo says this is broken i'll pay attention. Until then you can keep posting whatever the hell you want, cause i'm not listening.
Lazerus once again retreats behind 'WAH WAH I CAN'T HEAR YOU I CAN POWERGAME ALL DAY LONG', his custom Wall of Ignorance.
Posted: 2004-05-22 01:32pm
by SirNitram
Hotfoot wrote:If this is the bullshit we're going to have to put up with every time Laz gets a new power, then I say we don't give him the chance any more.
I move that Laz be banned from the STGOD.
Seconded. He has proven himself incapable of playing within the bounds of the rules.
Posted: 2004-05-22 01:32pm
by lazerus
Hotfoot wrote:If this is the bullshit we're going to have to put up with every time Laz gets a new power, then I say we don't give him the chance any more.
I move that Laz be banned from the STGOD.
Allow me to quote you......
Me: look, my ships may not be well armed, tough, or have any nice special abilites. The one thing we do well is build FAST ships. I think aly's empire said that DS9 power level does not equal DS9 tek level, and that we are using the former. They arn't broken!
HotfootB5: I don't care.
I'm playing a race of FUCKING PACIFISTS! How is that a ban-worthy offence.
Posted: 2004-05-22 01:33pm
by lazerus
SirNitram wrote:lazerus wrote:See, there is this thing, it's called "Balence" I woudln't expect you to understand. But roughly what it means is that when you gain an ability for a massive trade off ISN'T NOT FUCKING BROKEN.
Your double negative is exceptionally appropriate. While you can screech about me not knowing what balance is, I'm not the one who directly cheated to get a 'Wish' power, and of course I can spell the word.
Again. There is no rule permitting a tradeoff for a massive boost in tech.
We have seen races in trek use this, and if and when pablo says this is broken i'll pay attention. Until then you can keep posting whatever the hell you want, cause i'm not listening.
Lazerus once again retreats behind 'WAH WAH I CAN'T HEAR YOU I CAN POWERGAME ALL DAY LONG', his custom Wall of Ignorance.
That was a different game. What the fuck is up with you people and holding a grudge.
Posted: 2004-05-22 01:34pm
by lazerus
SirNitram wrote:Hotfoot wrote:If this is the bullshit we're going to have to put up with every time Laz gets a new power, then I say we don't give him the chance any more.
I move that Laz be banned from the STGOD.
Seconded. He has proven himself incapable of playing within the bounds of the rules.
Sticks and stones mate, i've followed the rules of game balence. My most humble apoligies if i've put a stain on your perfect world by have *gasp* fast MESSENGER SHIPS!
Posted: 2004-05-22 01:34pm
by SirNitram
lazerus wrote:That was a different game. What the fuck is up with you people and holding a grudge.
[Princess Sara]It's called Pattern Recignition. Look into it.[/Princess Sara]
Posted: 2004-05-22 01:35pm
by lazerus
SirNitram wrote:lazerus wrote:That was a different game. What the fuck is up with you people and holding a grudge.
[Princess Sara]It's called Pattern Recignition. Look into it.[/Princess Sara]
So you carry grudges from games that ended months ago because your an asshole with no life? I understand now.
Posted: 2004-05-22 01:36pm
by Hotfoot
lazerus wrote:Allow me to quote you......
Here's t full quote you little shit.
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[13:21] HotfootB5: You want to start pulling bullshit again, well then, I guess you haven't learned a damn thing
[13:23] sorcerer Jax: look, my ships may not be well armed, tough, or have any nice special abilites. The one thing we do well is build FAST ships. I think aly's empire said that DS9 power level does not equal DS9 tek level, and that we are using the former.
[13:23] HotfootB5: I don't care.
[13:23] sorcerer Jax: can I quote you on that?
[13:23] HotfootB5: I'm tired of going through this shit with you.
[13:23] HotfootB5: I want you gone.
I'm playing a race of FUCKING PACIFISTS! How is that a ban-worthy offence.
The fact that you don't even understand what we're pissed off about only goes to further show my point. Your constant bullshitting, powergaming, and whining is what we are pissed off about.
Posted: 2004-05-22 01:36pm
by Thirdfain
As much as I am all for redemption, and as much as I believe that Laz might shape up, I also am damn tired of his constant bickering. In the interests of preserving the flow of this STGOD, I third his banning.