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Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IV

Posted: 2008-11-17 01:57pm
by PeZook
Shroom Man 777 wrote: PEZOOK, you are AWESOME! Earth and Space, mangs!
Huh? What did I say? :D

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IV

Posted: 2008-11-17 07:15pm
by DarthShady
Coyote wrote: A Vorlon. Mysterious interfering near-godlike aliens of greta power in the Babylon 5 'verse. They seemed to know what was going on all over and make predictions about the future, and the phrase "and so it begins" was their stock phrase when a (seemingly) random act of plotness materialized.

And knowing is half the battle!
I Never saw much of Babylon 5. I just remember those shadow dudes who killed planets. :)

So SNC dudes how do we react to the vampire thing? I think I'll steal Sieges idea and distribute some flame-throwers and UV flash lights. :)

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IV

Posted: 2008-11-17 07:48pm
by Lonestar
Dun, dun, duuun :)

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IV

Posted: 2008-11-17 10:47pm
by CmdrWilkens
PeZook wrote:
RogueIce wrote: Which none of you lamers have yet to comment on. At least in OOC, you bastards.
EDIT: SiegeTank is the only one to make an in-game reaction to the name. The rest of you suck. :P
With all due respect, the motherfucking space vampires have some priority right now :P
Dude that is officially sigable. Anyway let me add my concurrance that the lack of appropriate reaction to our STAR Destroyers and STAR Cruisers is totally uncool.

Again for those who missed the post spelling this out: "STAR" stands for Synchronous Tracking And Response. This is a next generation sensor and integration suite that is matched with the SPY-3(X) system. SPY-3A is the current US version of the SPY-3 and its already being installed in several older vessels as it can be integrated with AEGIS easily. The SPY-3B which will be included with all STAR (and non-STAR) ships. It is an incremental improvement on the SPY-3 in terms of range, power, and band. SPY-3C is currently on the drawing board and is expected sometime around when "Far Horizons" comes due.

The STAR Cruisers, as spec'd out in this thread are 25k ton CGNs, STAR Destroyers are 15k ton DDGNs, and the soon to follow STAR Frigates are 4,800 ton FFGs [roughly halfway in size between the F-100 class and the OHP class)

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IV

Posted: 2008-11-17 11:16pm
by Shinn Langley Soryu
CmdrWilkens wrote:
PeZook wrote:
RogueIce wrote: Which none of you lamers have yet to comment on. At least in OOC, you bastards.
EDIT: SiegeTank is the only one to make an in-game reaction to the name. The rest of you suck. :P
With all due respect, the motherfucking space vampires have some priority right now :P
Dude that is officially sigable. Anyway let me add my concurrance that the lack of appropriate reaction to our STAR Destroyers and STAR Cruisers is totally uncool.

Again for those who missed the post spelling this out: "STAR" stands for Synchronous Tracking And Response. This is a next generation sensor and integration suite that is matched with the SPY-3(X) system. SPY-3A is the current US version of the SPY-3 and its already being installed in several older vessels as it can be integrated with AEGIS easily. The SPY-3B which will be included with all STAR (and non-STAR) ships. It is an incremental improvement on the SPY-3 in terms of range, power, and band. SPY-3C is currently on the drawing board and is expected sometime around when "Far Horizons" comes due.

The STAR Cruisers, as spec'd out in this thread are 25k ton CGNs, STAR Destroyers are 15k ton DDGNs, and the soon to follow STAR Frigates are 4,800 ton FFGs [roughly halfway in size between the F-100 class and the OHP class)
Already sigged.

I was actually going to ask if STAR-equipped ships are available for sale to non-MESS states and if non-AEGIS systems (the APAR and SMART-L equipped on my Sachsen class frigates comes to mind) can easily be integrated with the STAR system. It must have slipped my mind, I guess.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IV

Posted: 2008-11-17 11:33pm
by CmdrWilkens
Shinn Langley Soryu wrote: I was actually going to ask if STAR-equipped ships are available for sale to non-MESS states and if non-AEGIS systems (the APAR and SMART-L equipped on my Sachsen class frigates comes to mind) can easily be integrated with the STAR system. It must have slipped my mind, I guess.

The SPY-3A system can be purchased and integrated with an existing AEGIS setup however STAR is so much more than the radar suite that it is considered intra-MESS only as is SPY-3B. Since its essentially a gigantic package that allows remote command oversight, guidance, and weapons release from any terminal in addition to data sharing on a scale that dwarfs any current IFF system we want to both work out the bugs we are sure to find as we scale up from testing on a few ships and sites to integrating the entire Wilkonian (and possibly MESS) militaries and we don't want to give the capability to others before we can even begin game planning how to counter it. Simply put if I'm the first to discover the bow and arrow no way does anyone else get the tech until I know how to build a shield as well.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IV

Posted: 2008-11-18 12:11am
by Shinn Langley Soryu
CmdrWilkens wrote:
Shinn Langley Soryu wrote: I was actually going to ask if STAR-equipped ships are available for sale to non-MESS states and if non-AEGIS systems (the APAR and SMART-L equipped on my Sachsen class frigates comes to mind) can easily be integrated with the STAR system. It must have slipped my mind, I guess.

The SPY-3A system can be purchased and integrated with an existing AEGIS setup however STAR is so much more than the radar suite that it is considered intra-MESS only as is SPY-3B. Since its essentially a gigantic package that allows remote command oversight, guidance, and weapons release from any terminal in addition to data sharing on a scale that dwarfs any current IFF system we want to both work out the bugs we are sure to find as we scale up from testing on a few ships and sites to integrating the entire Wilkonian (and possibly MESS) militaries and we don't want to give the capability to others before we can even begin game planning how to counter it. Simply put if I'm the first to discover the bow and arrow no way does anyone else get the tech until I know how to build a shield as well.
So, I guess I and every other non-MESS nation out there who might be interested will have to wait our turns, then. We'll wait.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IV

Posted: 2008-11-18 02:29pm
by RogueIce
PeZook wrote:
RogueIce wrote: Which none of you lamers have yet to comment on. At least in OOC, you bastards.
EDIT: SiegeTank is the only one to make an in-game reaction to the name. The rest of you suck. :P
With all due respect, the motherfucking space vampires have some priority right now :P
Bah, some small and most likely contained extraterrestrial infection means nothing next to STAR destroyers.

But if you feel that is the case, then I will arrange a state visit to PeZookia in which I shall arrive aboard the SRS Imperator and thus force a reaction from King Paul.

Plus I can say I got to ride in a star destroyer. :D

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IV

Posted: 2008-11-18 02:45pm
by Siege
Considering people ought to react to STAR destroyers, I wonder how they ought to react when they realize that the most trusted advisor of comrade-premier Shady is freakin' Kane of the Brotherhood of Nod :D.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IV

Posted: 2008-11-18 02:51pm
by PeZook
SiegeTank wrote:Considering people ought to react to STAR destroyers, I wonder how they ought to react when they realize that the most trusted advisor of comrade-premier Shady is freakin' Kane of the Brotherhood of Nod :D.
I did have a post in mind commenting on their insane national anthem , actually :P

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IV

Posted: 2008-11-18 07:45pm
by DarthShady
SiegeTank wrote:Considering people ought to react to STAR destroyers, I wonder how they ought to react when they realize that the most trusted advisor of comrade-premier Shady is freakin' Kane of the Brotherhood of Nod :D.
Peace through Power. :D
PeZook wrote: I did have a post in mind commenting on their insane national anthem , actually :P
Ahem, our national anthem is not...Oh who am I kidding. Shroom wrote it. :lol:

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IV

Posted: 2008-11-18 09:34pm
by CmdrWilkens
Shinn Langley Soryu wrote:So, I guess I and every other non-MESS nation out there who might be interested will have to wait our turns, then. We'll wait.
Pretty much. Few years from now maybe ya'll can have some. On that note I am working on an export version but I have to get through all of my other projects (ABM, ASAT, IADS, etc) first.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IV

Posted: 2008-11-18 09:41pm
by Karmic Knight
DarthShady wrote:Ahem, our national anthem is not...Oh who am I kidding. Shroom wrote it. :lol:
That better be the in universe justification, 'it was written by an influential Shroomainian'

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IV

Posted: 2008-11-18 10:57pm
by Czechmate
I present a re-imagining of Steve's generic-state interpretation of the Caymans. I hope this is more interesting. :D

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Republica del Caymana
(Republic of the Caymans)


Map of the Cayman Islands
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Information
Government Type: Hispanic Corporatocracy
Head of State: President Frederico Truca, CEO Cayman Petroleum Company
Corporation-In-Charge: Cayman Petroleum Company (CPC)
Legislature: CPC Board of Directors
Judicial Branch: CPC, Security & Enforcement Division
Capitol: Cayman City
Local Political Movements: The Cayman Republican Army (CRA)
Currency: Caymanan Rial (R)
Population: 6,259,000 (as of 2002 census)
GDP: R180,000,000,000; R28,758 per capita
Major Industries/Businesses: Fishing, Tropical Agriculture, Tourism, light CPC-controlled manufacturing capability, vast natural gas and oil fields in EEZ around islands
Major Imports: Manufactured consumer goods, foodstuffs
Energy Information: Each island has electricity available through coal-burning plants, though there are some areas where electric service and other utilities are inconsistant. A decade-old natural gas plant provides power for the Capitol and the CPC's Headquarters Complex; the CPC is considering installing a nuclear plant within the Complex walls.

History:

The Cayman Islands have long been a popular tourist destination, until now. Discovered and settled by Messamerican pirates and runaways in the 1700s, they were a warm, green paradise populated by fruit and rice farmers, living a simple life under a centuries-old monarchy. This idyllic state of being survived until the early 20th century, when progress quickly caught up to the islands. Used as a coaling station by Messamerican warships during both World Wars, they were left to catch up with the global system.

In the 1960s, a republican revolutionary movement began to grow, soon forming into the Cayman Republican Army. The CRA proceeded to carry out a guerilla war against the monarchy throughout the next two decades, raiding government facilities and supply shipments at sea, boarding and seizing shipments of arms and supplies to the monarchist government. The conflict seemed to be a stalemate throughout the 1970s, until a daring CPA raid on the royal mansion in early 1980 left the Royal Family dead. Chaos ensued across the islands as the government collapsed. Looting and internecine fighting raged throughout 1980, until the local oil company, Cayman Petroleum, stepped in to restore order. Its' private security forces struck with modern equipment and tactics, a blitzkrieg across the islands bringing every major population center to order.

It is then, in 1981, that the company declared itself the legitimate successor to the monarchy and the islands and their inhabitants property and citizens of the Republic of Caymana, under the leadership of the company's board of directors and its' president, Frederico Truca. Since then, the company has taken the vast majority of the islands' yearly export income for itself, leaving the populace destitute and forced to take out loans from the company simply to survive.

The company continues to maintain order with the Security & Enforcement Division, a private army numbering in the tens of thousands and including a private navy of patrol craft and small frigates, numerous attack and transport helicopters and roughly one hundred 1990s-vintage combat aircraft, and wheeled combat vehicles including HMMWVs, weaponized Tonkinese sport utility vehicles, and Stryker combat vehicles. Its' troops are armed with Minimi machineguns and G36 rifles, in 6.5 MESS, the same ammunition used by the MESS militaries, as well as Barret sniper rifles and many other modern weapons.

The CPC's innumerable branches have grown to include a bank, an import/export service, a food conglomerate, and illicit drug and weapons manufacturers; the people of the islands toil under the eyes of these branches, forever in its' debt, their suffering unknown and unseen by the wealthy tourists who visit the islands. The world's governments, caught firmly by the balls in the vise of the CPC's local oil monopoly, remain unable to do more than lodge protests and make feeble statements lest they lose their supply of Cayman oil.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IV

Posted: 2008-11-19 02:43am
by PeZook
How are we "caught by the balls" with their oil supply? Arabia is swimming in the stuff.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IV

Posted: 2008-11-19 02:45am
by Czechmate
i was trying to rationalize why no one's liberated the proles yet. oil only comes from a few places IRL.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IV

Posted: 2008-11-19 04:49am
by Fingolfin_Noldor
Do we want some pirate excitement? Remember, Byzantium has a zero-tolerance policy for pirates; we simply sink them and then gun down any survivors.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IV

Posted: 2008-11-19 05:27am
by PeZook
Czechmate wrote:i was trying to rationalize why no one's liberated the proles yet. oil only comes from a few places IRL.
It may simply be due to the "they're not significant enough for anyone to bother" thingie.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IV

Posted: 2008-11-19 06:50am
by Lonestar
PeZook wrote:How are we "caught by the balls" with their oil supply? Arabia is swimming in the stuff.
And the OD is current exploring and drilling extensively in the Fucklands Islands...

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IV

Posted: 2008-11-19 08:02am
by Master_Baerne
Hey Siege, the space program is a joint-FTO thing, right?

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IV

Posted: 2008-11-19 09:33am
by Shroom Man 777
GAYMANS, not fucking Caymans. GAYMANS!!!

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IV

Posted: 2008-11-19 09:37am
by Siege
Master_Baerne wrote:Hey Siege, the space program is a joint-FTO thing, right?
Elements of it, like communications satellites, the Lucrelance I, and tracking stations, are. Other stuff, like the Silver Streak and the OTHEL program, are not. I'd be willing to open bits and pieces of it to FTO investment though. And I'm going to brief the FTO on the Silver Streak shortly before the prototype launch.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IV

Posted: 2008-11-19 09:39am
by Shroom Man 777
But Shroomania IS in on the Silver Streak, am I rite? :)

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IV

Posted: 2008-11-19 09:40am
by Zor
And so the Zorian faiths continue to spread across the world.

Zor

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IV

Posted: 2008-11-19 09:47am
by Siege
Shroom Man 777 wrote:But Shroomania IS in on the Silver Streak, am I rite? :)
We've shown you the thing and asked if you'd be interested in buying it, and we've agreed to jointly develop a successor, yes.