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Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall
Posted: 2010-11-16 12:41am
by General Zod
Vympel wrote: And of course stimpacks heal over time in combat, so that should make things harder.
Pick the right companion and the right weapon spread and . . .it doesn't? Long as you change up your strategies a little bit and use other weapons like mines it's still pretty easy.
Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall
Posted: 2010-11-16 12:48am
by His Divine Shadow
Ghost Rider wrote:Chardok wrote:What is this Gobi you speak of,
It's a sniper rifle you can get through a lockpick(requires 100) case you open. Combine it with Handloader .308 ammo and you 1-2 shot anything.
And ammo weight is funny because laser/plasma weapon ammo is heavy. Bullets? You're still carrying enough to kill armies.
And you can already pretty much do the same with the regular sniper rifle. Which works really well for my playing style (i.e. sniper) though it sure takes the challenge outta the game.
Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall
Posted: 2010-11-16 01:05am
by His Divine Shadow
Oh and I love the companion de-equip mod. Finally I can get rid of Veronicas stupid robes and have her look like a "normal" person

There is also another mod that allows for multiple companions, I really hated you could only have one at a time.

Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall
Posted: 2010-11-16 01:13am
by Chaotic Neutral
As far as vanilla weapons go, This Machine is pretty badass.
It's a testament to how overpowered WWII rifles were when even in a videogame with monsters and absurdly low damage, the gun still kicks more ass than anything below a sniper.
Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall
Posted: 2010-11-16 01:15am
by Ghost Rider
His Divine Shadow wrote:Ghost Rider wrote:Chardok wrote:What is this Gobi you speak of,
It's a sniper rifle you can get through a lockpick(requires 100) case you open. Combine it with Handloader .308 ammo and you 1-2 shot anything.
And ammo weight is funny because laser/plasma weapon ammo is heavy. Bullets? You're still carrying enough to kill armies.
And you can already pretty much do the same with the regular sniper rifle. Which works really well for my playing style (i.e. sniper) though it sure takes the challenge outta the game.
Yeah, but you can edge more shots out of the Gobi

. Plus I can get earlier then most Sniper Rifles show up, so it was better for what it is.
The only challenge I can see is to actually hinder yourself in multiple ways, but that's no different then the slew of "I beat XXX game with only a healer and drunk!".
Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall
Posted: 2010-11-16 01:22am
by Stark
His Divine Shadow wrote:And you can already pretty much do the same with the regular sniper rifle. Which works really well for my playing style (i.e. sniper) though it sure takes the challenge outta the game.
Ha, 'sniping' is a 'play style' now! And not just 'the entire combat system is totally broken and sniping is how everyone plays except those going for the melee achievement'.
Its even better that you turn around and twink out the whole game with companions and shit. Its easy solo, the companions are either useless or instant wins.
GR, its a shame the game doesn't support ironman rules (or even ironman challenges) because people love that shit.
Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall
Posted: 2010-11-16 01:41am
by General Zod
Chaotic Neutral wrote:As far as vanilla weapons go, This Machine is pretty badass.
It's a testament to how overpowered WWII rifles were when even in a videogame with monsters and absurdly low damage, the gun still kicks more ass than anything below a sniper.
I thought that gun was pretty worthless. I used it a few times and went right back to a cowboy repeater.
Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall
Posted: 2010-11-16 01:45am
by Ghost Rider
Stark wrote:GR, its a shame the game doesn't support ironman rules (or even ironman challenges) because people love that shit.
Yeah, the achievements should be even more pointless then the *10,000 unarmed damage*

. Give the idjits something to really strive for in this game!
But never fear! There's some fatas...I mean heroic modder whose genius will come up with something that will be labeled "TOTAL REALISM MOD". Wherein you will need more then just food and water, but find even more useless crap to repair anything, your character will feel pain behind everytime he fires a shot from any gun, and getting hit by anything except a soft breeze will be killing damage and other such nonsense.
Really, it's funny to see how people want to make the STALKER the RPG but even more inane.
Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall
Posted: 2010-11-16 01:47am
by General Zod
Hilariously "unarmed" can be pretty potent with a good pair of spiked knuckles or a power fist. Steal a ballistic fist from one of Caesar's praetorians and you're a one-man punching machine.
Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall
Posted: 2010-11-16 02:08am
by Stark
The dog-tag punching thing is hilarious; somehow it does mega damage. Dog tags are sharp!

Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall
Posted: 2010-11-16 02:38am
by His Divine Shadow
Stark wrote:His Divine Shadow wrote:And you can already pretty much do the same with the regular sniper rifle. Which works really well for my playing style (i.e. sniper) though it sure takes the challenge outta the game.
Ha, 'sniping' is a 'play style' now! And not just 'the entire combat system is totally broken and sniping is how everyone plays except those going for the melee achievement'.
Its even better that you turn around and twink out the whole game with companions and shit. Its easy solo, the companions are either useless or instant wins.
GR, its a shame the game doesn't support ironman rules (or even ironman challenges) because people love that shit.
Right I'm so sorry I used the wrong words or something.
Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall
Posted: 2010-11-16 08:49am
by Chardok
When you say Ironman mode, STRAK, do you mean like death = death mode for the player? 1 save slot sort of thing and if you die, you lose your save and must start over?
Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall
Posted: 2010-11-16 08:51am
by Ghost Rider
Chardok wrote:When you say Ironman mode, STRAK, do you mean like death = death mode for the player? 1 save slot sort of thing and if you die, you lose your save and must start over?
Think of that plus more of the same shit of "Now with realistic pain!!!!". Things like radiation being forever, wounds only being healed in real time, and worse.
Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall
Posted: 2010-11-16 12:04pm
by Chardok
Ghost Rider wrote:Chardok wrote:When you say Ironman mode, STRAK, do you mean like death = death mode for the player? 1 save slot sort of thing and if you die, you lose your save and must start over?
Think of that plus more of the same shit of "Now with realistic pain!!!!". Things like radiation being forever, wounds only being healed in real time, and worse.
I see, it's the "Ruin everything that is fun about the game" mod.
Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall
Posted: 2010-11-16 03:03pm
by Stark
People (crazy people) who play indy RPGs apparently like following crazy rules to increase challenge. Is Eschaton 2 for instance it supports telling the player how they're doing, so they can never use melee/ranged, never eat food, never buy anything, shit like that, to artificially increase the difficulty. New Vegas might actullay be hard if you never paid for radiation removal.

Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall
Posted: 2010-11-16 03:35pm
by Gunhead
Stark wrote:People (crazy people) who play indy RPGs apparently like following crazy rules to increase challenge. Is Eschaton 2 for instance it supports telling the player how they're doing, so they can never use melee/ranged, never eat food, never buy anything, shit like that, to artificially increase the difficulty. New Vegas might actullay be hard if you never paid for radiation removal.

Nope. Even after soaking myself in every imaginable hot spot in my quest for more loot, I never paid for radiation removal and still had enough radaway and rad-x to fill an olympic sized swimming pool.
It's really odd that people are so obsessed with M0AR RE4LiZms in game that features pewpew lasers, power armor, mutants and retro fifties technology. Maybe it's because besides Stalker, we have very few games where you can be a uber virtual survivor and drink your own piss.
-Gunhead
Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall
Posted: 2010-11-16 04:03pm
by open_sketchbook
A game can still have that stuff and yet still play in a serious manner. I don't think that a game's setting and it's gameplay have to be linked in terms of realism. Besides, wandering around as an invicible mobile gun turret shooting off a million plasma bolts at everything that moves and gaming every encounter by abusing a bottomless supply of stimpacks does not fit my definition of fun. A game needs real challenge to be fun, needs to make you ask yourself "Is this fight going to be worth it? Do I really stand a chance here?" instead of "Do I have enough stimpacks to brute force this?"
Victory is only fun when you actually have to earn it by playing well and playing smart. In non-multiplayer games, that usually means you have to stack the deck against yourself.
Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall
Posted: 2010-11-16 04:14pm
by Stark
Gunhead wrote:Nope. Even after soaking myself in every imaginable hot spot in my quest for more loot, I never paid for radiation removal and still had enough radaway and rad-x to fill an olympic sized swimming pool.
It's really odd that people are so obsessed with M0AR RE4LiZms in game that features pewpew lasers, power armor, mutants and retro fifties technology. Maybe it's because besides Stalker, we have very few games where you can be a uber virtual survivor and drink your own piss.
-Gunhead
Stuff like never using vendors, never using any storage, never using stims, never using drugs, never using irons, never using VATS etc would be crazy... but I don't understand the desire to make a game hard in these ways. Fallout is just not hard, and the system is so broken by level 10 you're an unstoppable killing machine who needs to sleep 3 hours every 2 days.
If you had a gas mask it'd be better, though.

Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall
Posted: 2010-11-18 01:41am
by Agent Fisher
DLC already announced today.
Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall
Posted: 2010-11-18 09:03am
by Chardok
I hit the 160XBET jackpot on a slot at Gomorrah last night. 32000 caps. Do I win now?
Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall
Posted: 2010-11-18 09:21am
by Gunhead
Chardok wrote:I hit the 160XBET jackpot on a slot at Gomorrah last night. 32000 caps. Do I win now?
Well, what do you think?

Now you can break the bank at every casino, build a large cube like structure where to hold that loot and swim in it. Then you must spare every penny you have and obsessively collect more money and threaten to cut people from your will unless they go on hairbrained quests into the wasteland and bring you square eggs, pirate treasure or some such.
-Gunhead
Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall
Posted: 2010-11-18 09:46am
by Chardok
Also, I managed to "Talk" to a whore. Turns out they're actually vulnerable desert flowers with low self-esteem and daddy issues? Who knew? Anyway, she wants me to find Carnitas for some reason. Weird, but that's the wasteland for ya.
I saw STRAK was playing Need for speed last night, so I suppose he's done with FONV. how do I know this? Because NFS:HP is a Burnout clone. and STRAK be lovin' him some burnout.
Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall
Posted: 2010-11-18 01:32pm
by Stark
Nah I stopped playing because of a pile of horrible scripting bugs. Its really amusing how much the quest wiki says 'open the console and fix the quest'.

Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall
Posted: 2010-11-18 01:43pm
by Ghost Rider
For PC : Open console and ...
360/PS3: Restart game.
Really, such solutions. And they want us to get the DLC a month from now?
Re: I went to Vegas but all I got was shot in the face (Fall
Posted: 2010-11-18 02:43pm
by Chardok
Question for you foolios:
Given that I just got infinite money, ummm...which weapon should I pack that is readily buyable at level 16 at, say, gun runners? I have boatloads of 357 ammo, but cant find a replacement cowboy repeater...so I'm considering breaking down the ammo for parts and doing hand loads for the ammo for the gun I buy now. I'm thinkin assault carbine, but how readily available in 5mm ammo? is the DPS/DAM worth it? Boone's rocking a scoped hunting rifle and is doing well with it, and I don't anticipate finding "NEWAWESOMESAUCEGUN#234095809" for some times now.