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Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread VI
Posted: 2009-03-06 03:51am
by Fingolfin_Noldor
PeZook wrote:No new naval procurement spending is planned for 2015. We already have trouble financing the four final Yer Moms without getting even more into debt.
I guess some industries are going to weep a bit. Then again, I may consider some modernization packages for my existing ships

The money spent gutting the ships just to install the system could be used to build new ships.
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread VI
Posted: 2009-03-07 01:06am
by K. A. Pital
I don't believe we'll be gutting anything. Ship scrapping is pretty expensive in it's own right; with so many nuclear vessels in the fleet utilization is costly. We can give them to poor nations for overhauls.
Hey, who wants my overhauled modernized Kirov cruisers for sale, eh?

Armed with around 20 5000-6000 km heavy over Mach-3 ALCMs, and CSR S-400F navalized SAM system.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread VI
Posted: 2009-03-07 01:21am
by Fingolfin_Noldor
Stas Bush wrote:I don't believe we'll be gutting anything. Ship scrapping is pretty expensive in it's own right; with so many nuclear vessels in the fleet utilization is costly. We can give them to poor nations for overhauls.
Hey, who wants my overhauled modernized Kirov cruisers for sale, eh?

Armed with around 20 5000-6000 km heavy over Mach-3 ALCMs, and CSR S-400F navalized SAM system.

PeZook doesn't have any nuclear ships.
Any how, I will also be letting go my KDX-III ships in batches of 3.
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread VI
Posted: 2009-03-07 01:49am
by Shinn Langley Soryu
How much for a refurbished Kirov or KDX-III, then?
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread VI
Posted: 2009-03-07 01:54am
by Fingolfin_Noldor
Shinn Langley Soryu wrote:How much for a refurbished Kirov or KDX-III, then?
I'll probably sell them at 1/5 the build price. Like 250million. I will probably let go my Kirovs for... 500 million?
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread VI
Posted: 2009-03-07 03:31am
by PeZook
*fiddles with budget*
I will be willing to take four of those Kirovs. They'll do great before the Great Naval Ordering Spree of 2016 brings in results

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread VI
Posted: 2009-03-07 07:49am
by DarthShady
CATO dudes, I hope you will join us soon...before Heraclius and Shady are too drunk to recognize you.
P.S. Stas, I'm counting you as already there(At the palace of the Soviets.)

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread VI
Posted: 2009-03-07 08:17am
by Fingolfin_Noldor
Yeah... we need to get discussions underway... so send yourselves in?
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread VI
Posted: 2009-03-08 11:56am
by DarthShady
A few words from the new President.
Guys, is it just me or has the game slowed down somewhat? So many ongoing stories and yet little progress.

I'm guessing everybody is a bit busy with RL, still I hope that some of these loose ends will be tied up soon. We have two Presidents stuck in a limbo of sorts, which I hope will be resolved soon

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread VI
Posted: 2009-03-08 12:02pm
by Fingolfin_Noldor
I think people are busy? I sure hope the game doesn't die too soon, though I would imagine it would die eventually.
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread VI
Posted: 2009-03-08 02:50pm
by Siege
The plotline of Steve and me took a bit longer to resolve than I thought, and I've decided I don't really want to move on with other stuff until that's resolved. Otherwise I'd've launched my new orbiter by now, and posted a bunch of stuff about what's going on in Coilerburg and so on, but that'll have to wait for a bit now.
And Shroom was gone for a week or two, so I figure that has cut into the usual SDNW nuttery quite a bit too

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Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread VI
Posted: 2009-03-08 02:51pm
by Ryan Thunder
I agree, that would suck. I'm waiting for news on the two presidents. That's the big thing for Miratia right now.
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread VI
Posted: 2009-03-08 07:35pm
by PeZook
Heh, heh..."a far more terrible weapon" indeed
I wouldn't worry about the slowdown, BTW. We've had quite a few already.
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread VI
Posted: 2009-03-08 08:20pm
by Lonestar
SiegeTank wrote:
And Shroom was gone for a week or two, so I figure that has cut into the usual SDNW nuttery quite a bit too

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Don't worry, I've discussed this with Setzer...let's just say soon enough Sirnoth will exit FUN and join the
Old Dominion OICAS.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread VI
Posted: 2009-03-08 11:06pm
by Karmic Knight
PeZook wrote:Heh, heh..."a far more terrible weapon" indeed :D
I wouldn't worry about the slowdown, BTW. We've had quite a few already.
I agree, I can think of at least two times this has been declared dead, and yet we have continued on.
That being said, I would like Steve and Siege to finish their plotline, so I can work on one I have.
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread VI
Posted: 2009-03-09 05:16am
by Shroom Man 777
Forgive me if I'm a bit slow on the uptake. I'm still feeling horrible from my week off. Like, I'm experiencing time-lag.
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread VI
Posted: 2009-03-09 06:07am
by Fingolfin_Noldor
Man... I start with the serious business first, since the last time round, everyone went on their own business after the main event without anything seriously discussed beyond Shroomania's inductance!
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread VI
Posted: 2009-03-09 06:23am
by Shroom Man 777
Hrm... yeah, now we've got another night of eating and drinking and vomiting inappropriately!
Maybe we can conduct some of the serious business via PM.
Where we shall be saved the trouble of writing things in dialog sotyrline form!
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread VI
Posted: 2009-03-09 06:45am
by PeZook
Fin, it's probably because nobody knows what you want them to do
We kinda agreed that yeah, we should standardize weapons and continue our programs and invest in science. Hooray!

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread VI
Posted: 2009-03-09 08:15am
by Fingolfin_Noldor
PeZook wrote:Fin, it's probably because nobody knows what you want them to do
We kinda agreed that yeah, we should standardize weapons and continue our programs and invest in science. Hooray!

Well I was hoping for a more formalized plan on foreign policy. Japanistan ain't exactly 100% a sleeping giant.
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread VI
Posted: 2009-03-09 08:19am
by PeZook
What we need:
1) An agreement on joint development and standardization of weapon systems. Right now it's "whoever gets around to writing it" and then sells them to others
2) Unified foreign policy agreement
3) Profit!
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread VI
Posted: 2009-03-09 08:33am
by Fingolfin_Noldor
PeZook wrote:What we need:
1) An agreement on joint development and standardization of weapon systems. Right now it's "whoever gets around to writing it" and then sells them to others
That would have been easy if not for the fact people keep forgetting or what other reason they can come up with, or the fact that most of you don't know the technical issues. In any case, some of it is based on realistic development time scales.
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread VI
Posted: 2009-03-09 08:57am
by Shroom Man 777
Why don't we just let the knowledgable people (basically everyone except me and Shady) delegate these research, development and production stuff to the member nations in a form of division of labor according to each nation's strengths and such.
It'd be a waste to have Shroomania, say, not make anything because I'm an ignoramus who spends most of his time writing feats of dickery.
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread VI
Posted: 2009-03-09 09:08am
by Fingolfin_Noldor
Shroom Man 777 wrote:Why don't we just let the knowledgable people (basically everyone except me and Shady) delegate these research, development and production stuff to the member nations in a form of division of labor according to each nation's strengths and such.
It'd be a waste to have Shroomania, say, not make anything because I'm an ignoramus who spends most of his time writing feats of dickery.
I didn't share some documents just that you guys just read and say absolutely nothing about it!
In any case, Shroomania's recent entrance meant it will take time to integrate you into the scheme of things. In any case, we have delegated some of the work, though I haven't figured what PeZook wants to do since his military budget is rock bottom among the 5 of us, and since Shady is now UCSR, it means just about a lot of the projects are dominated by the UCSR, as it should be. Many projects I merely vaguely state that the work was somehow delegated and subcontracted out. Note that now that you are in, any project that Byzantine Aeronautics is involved in, BAM is now as a whole is now involved, which means you get work coming your way.
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread VI
Posted: 2009-03-09 09:34am
by Shroom Man 777
Yay. Sorry for not really getting into the details of the documents you've sent. I had, uh, other pressing (and horrible!) things bothering me.
Right now I still feel rather shitty.