STGOD 4 OOC Thread

[SirNitram]

Nitram, your fleet, a big one, traveled through the entire terran sphere. The galaxy was scoured for information on your fleets, you couldn't have been going at full tilt through the entire terran sphere, no way, no how. Your engines are only marginally more efficient than the galactic norm, them's the rules, the terran sphere is too large to go at full speed the whole way through. Besides, your ships can't move too fast or your breaking the DS9 tech level limit, when you get right down to it, your ships would have to be traveling for years, you can't escape that.

Am I just not typing English anymore? Is that the problem?

A fleet sneaks through the Terran Sphere.. Will they be going full tilt, Innocent? No, of course not. Any speed they were recorded at will, by sensible people, as a slow cruise speed on a sneak attack.

And where did I say my ships aside from Fast Destroyers are going that fast? I'm pointing out that you don't know this. I have been placed in a situation where I must fake my capabilities, fine, I will. But I will speak out when people are blatantly using OOC knowledge to derive my capabilities, like with this 'It MUST take him years to move a fleet around!' bullshit.

[InnocentBystander]

We've seen your destroyers move, yes? If so we can use that speed as a guide. How is that using OOC knowledge?

[SirNitram]

We've seen your destroyers move, yes? If so we can use that speed as a guide. How is that using OOC knowledge?

That I have no problem with. I do have problems with people knowing immediately that they suffer engine damage from it; they don't exactly have flashing health meters.

And a number of your other statements were based firmly in things you don't know.

[Bugsby]

Nitram, I am assuming you are lying about your holdings in my current postings. Whatever you have done, you had to start out with only 15 home systems (I think that was the number), because that is the hard number we set at the beginning of the game. You did release many "seed systems," but those are still VERY weak (we have crushed several) and you dont have the entire galaxy made up of seed systems. I am assuming you have many a couple hundred of these. If these numbers are different than what you planned, feel free to tell me. But if they are, I think we should ask the mod if your numbers are permissible in this game...

[SirNitram]

Nitram, I am assuming you are lying about your holdings in my current postings. Whatever you have done, you had to start out with only 15 home systems (I think that was the number), because that is the hard number we set at the beginning of the game. You did release many "seed systems," but those are still VERY weak (we have crushed several) and you dont have the entire galaxy made up of seed systems. I am assuming you have many a couple hundred of these. If these numbers are different than what you planned, feel free to tell me. But if they are, I think we should ask the mod if your numbers are permissible in this game...

Now, Bugsby, would I have put the systems I haven't seeded or colonized on the map as being near enough to your space as to be scannable? I'm not a complete idiot.

[Bugsby]

Nitram, I am assuming you are lying about your holdings in my current postings. Whatever you have done, you had to start out with only 15 home systems (I think that was the number), because that is the hard number we set at the beginning of the game. You did release many "seed systems," but those are still VERY weak (we have crushed several) and you dont have the entire galaxy made up of seed systems. I am assuming you have many a couple hundred of these. If these numbers are different than what you planned, feel free to tell me. But if they are, I think we should ask the mod if your numbers are permissible in this game...

Now, Bugsby, would I have put the systems I haven't seeded or colonized on the map as being near enough to your space as to be scannable? I'm not a complete idiot.

Do you mean that my hundred probes would have come across nothing at all in the initial sweep? If that is the case, I accept that and will edit accordingly.

[SirNitram]

Nitram, I am assuming you are lying about your holdings in my current postings. Whatever you have done, you had to start out with only 15 home systems (I think that was the number), because that is the hard number we set at the beginning of the game. You did release many "seed systems," but those are still VERY weak (we have crushed several) and you dont have the entire galaxy made up of seed systems. I am assuming you have many a couple hundred of these. If these numbers are different than what you planned, feel free to tell me. But if they are, I think we should ask the mod if your numbers are permissible in this game...

Now, Bugsby, would I have put the systems I haven't seeded or colonized on the map as being near enough to your space as to be scannable? I'm not a complete idiot.

Do you mean that my hundred probes would have come across nothing at all in the initial sweep? If that is the case, I accept that and will edit accordingly.

If they just scoured randomly, you'd find nothing. If you're heading for the systems indicated on the map, you'll encounter those towers, big monitoring stations on the surface of worlds with primitive life, or one or two factory worlds.

[Bugsby]

I have scouted the one hundred systems closest to the last world of yours that we killed that you indicated on your map. So, like you said, I found a very few small outposts, nothing too big, and not too much. Not enough to identify a pattern, but that will change.

You cant hide forver...

[SirNitram]

I have scouted the one hundred systems closest to the last world of yours that we killed that you indicated on your map. So, like you said, I found a very few small outposts, nothing too big, and not too much. Not enough to identify a pattern, but that will change.

You cant hide forver...

You wanna bet? I'm just waiting for that juicy self-sustaining fleet to come here. Capturing that will be a strategic masterstroke.

[Bugsby]

I have scouted the one hundred systems closest to the last world of yours that we killed that you indicated on your map. So, like you said, I found a very few small outposts, nothing too big, and not too much. Not enough to identify a pattern, but that will change.

You cant hide forver...

You wanna bet? I'm just waiting for that juicy self-sustaining fleet to come here. Capturing that will be a strategic masterstroke.

Im sending everything I have, supplied by Monacora. Capturing that will be DIFFICULT. But, hey, lets see what you come up with. We cross that bridge when we come to it, neh?

[SirNitram]

I have scouted the one hundred systems closest to the last world of yours that we killed that you indicated on your map. So, like you said, I found a very few small outposts, nothing too big, and not too much. Not enough to identify a pattern, but that will change.

You cant hide forver...

You wanna bet? I'm just waiting for that juicy self-sustaining fleet to come here. Capturing that will be a strategic masterstroke.

Im sending everything I have, supplied by Monacora. Capturing that will be DIFFICULT. But, hey, lets see what you come up with. We cross that bridge when we come to it, neh?

Not referring to yours. Referring to the proposed self-sustaining replicating fleet.

[Hotfoot]

Now, Bugsby, would I have put the systems I haven't seeded or colonized on the map as being near enough to your space as to be scannable? I'm not a complete idiot.

Couple of questions then:
Are the places we've found already on that map?
How far away is the nearest marked system on the map? Because given current FTL speeds, we can make a beeline for it and expect to get there in a fairly reasonable amount of time.

Also, the places we've found, are they coreward, rimward, towards other arms, or above/below the plate (where there's not a lot of elbow room left, comparably)? Because it would stand to reason that even if you're seeding as much space as possible, you'd only be able to do so from one general direction, unless you either went through known space entirely undetected, or spent a nice long time going around it.

[SirNitram]

Now, Bugsby, would I have put the systems I haven't seeded or colonized on the map as being near enough to your space as to be scannable? I'm not a complete idiot.

Couple of questions then:
Are the places we've found already on that map?

Yes.

How far away is the nearest marked system on the map? Because given current FTL speeds, we can make a beeline for it and expect to get there in a fairly reasonable amount of time.

Probably a few days from the tower you smashed.

Also, the places we've found, are they coreward, rimward, towards other arms, or above/below the plate (where there's not a lot of elbow room left, comparably)? Because it would stand to reason that even if you're seeding as much space as possible, you'd only be able to do so from one general direction, unless you either went through known space entirely undetected, or spent a nice long time going around it.

Coreward. The 'pincer' arms haven't gotten near from the sides yet; they'd be well out there.

[Hotfoot]

Yes.

Hmmm, interesting. All right.

Probably a few days from the tower you smashed.

Okay, and the nearest cluster, say if we chose randomly from all the spots a week or so out from that point? About how many dots would there be, out of the millions of stars in that area?

Coreward. The 'pincer' arms haven't gotten near from the sides yet; they'd be well out there.

Okay, good, in that case the search effort can be a bit more concentrated in that region now that we have an indication of what is going on.

[SirNitram]

Yes.

Hmmm, interesting. All right.

Probably a few days from the tower you smashed.

Okay, and the nearest cluster, say if we chose randomly from all the spots a week or so out from that point? About how many dots would there be, out of the millions of stars in that area?

A few hundred, tops. Many of these will turn out to be little monitoring stations on worlds with primitive life flourishing, or towers like you saw. To get to there, I dunno, maybe a week, not counting hopping between each.

[Hotfoot]

A few hundred, tops. Many of these will turn out to be little monitoring stations on worlds with primitive life flourishing, or towers like you saw. To get to there, I dunno, maybe a week, not counting hopping between each.

So you actually do have something at each and every one of those systems then, at least the ones we can check with relative ease?

[SirNitram]

A few hundred, tops. Many of these will turn out to be little monitoring stations on worlds with primitive life flourishing, or towers like you saw. To get to there, I dunno, maybe a week, not counting hopping between each.

So you actually do have something at each and every one of those systems then, at least the ones we can check with relative ease?

Yes. Granted, if you really went over and poked it with a stick, you might find that alot were hastily constructed(The towers are still going up, the observation stations are, if you actually invaded them and so forth, crash-landed Destroyers rebuilt into sensor stations), but it's a gamble that, if you see Overseer systems as far as your eyes can see, you might back down.

Or at least wipe out some lesser Organics in the process.

[Rogue 9]

Its way too late now, but Straha, the usual thing a nation does when it wants an individual held by another nation for questioning and/or charges is ask for the extradition of the individual. It generally doesn't send a battle fleet to the second nation's capital to make threats as its first notification of its desire for custody of the individual; this is what we call an act of war. I'll read the rest tomorrow while I'm at work.

And Thirdfain, if we wanted hegemony we'd have it. There'd be jack shit you could do to stop us. Fortunately for Known Space, we don't run that way, unlike you. I'd think more people would have noticed that.

[Stormbringer]

Its way too late now, but Straha, the usual thing a nation does when it wants an individual held by another nation for questioning and/or charges is ask for the extradition of the individual. It generally doesn't send a battle fleet to the second nation's capital to make threats as its first notification of its desire for custody of the individual; this is what we call an act of war. I'll read the rest tomorrow while I'm at work.

Let's just say that when it comes to seeking justice Straha's methods are about as subtle as a fart in the bath tub. Look up the Monacoran Hostage Crisis and you'll see what I'm talking about.

And Thirdfain, if we wanted hegemony we'd have it. There'd be jack shit you could do to stop us. Fortunately for Known Space, we don't run that way, unlike you. I'd think more people would have noticed that.

Wow, you're definitely getting ahead of yourself. Pretensions of galatic domination don't usually go over well.

[Straha]

Its way too late now, but Straha, the usual thing a nation does when it wants an individual held by another nation for questioning and/or charges is ask for the extradition of the individual. It generally doesn't send a battle fleet to the second nation's capital to make threats as its first notification of its desire for custody of the individual; this is what we call an act of war. I'll read the rest tomorrow while I'm at work.

Let's just say that when it comes to seeking justice Straha's methods are about as subtle as a fart in the bath tub. Look up the Monacoran Hostage Crisis and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Aww, you're making me blush over here...

[Rogue 9]

And Thirdfain, if we wanted hegemony we'd have it. There'd be jack shit you could do to stop us. Fortunately for Known Space, we don't run that way, unlike you. I'd think more people would have noticed that.

Wow, you're definitely getting ahead of yourself. Pretensions of galatic domination don't usually go over well.

What pretensions of galactic domination? I simply said that Thirdfain, by himself, could not stop the combined Alliance from seizing hegemony. I also said that we do not desire hegemony, so the point is moot. If you want to (correctly) claim that we couldn't dominate the galaxy, take it up with Thirdfain who was claiming that we could and would in order to scare Monacora into opposing us. I never made any claim to that ability. I just said that Thirdfain couldn't stop us; the Alliance's limitations outside of our ability to crush the Hajr should we be disposed to do so weren't in the equation.

[Thirdfain]

What pretensions of galactic domination? I simply said that Thirdfain, by himself, could not stop the combined Alliance from seizing hegemony. I also said that we do not desire hegemony, so the point is moot. If you want to (correctly) claim that we couldn't dominate the galaxy, take it up with Thirdfain who was claiming that we could and would in order to scare Monacora into opposing us. I never made any claim to that ability. I just said that Thirdfain couldn't stop us; the Alliance's limitations outside of our ability to crush the Hajr should we be disposed to do so weren't in the equation.

I think, Rogue9, that you underestimate me wildly. I have had and continue to have the resources to smash your alliance peicemeal, even in open military conflict. Just because you can only measure power in fleet bases and warships doesn't mean there aren't other forms just as potent. I strongly suspect that any effort made by your Alliance to defeat the Hajr would end with your own destruction. If you would like to test this, feel free- I stand ready.

[Pablo Sanchez]

I'm back, at least for the weekend.

[InnocentBystander]

What pretensions of galactic domination? I simply said that Thirdfain, by himself, could not stop the combined Alliance from seizing hegemony. I also said that we do not desire hegemony, so the point is moot. If you want to (correctly) claim that we couldn't dominate the galaxy, take it up with Thirdfain who was claiming that we could and would in order to scare Monacora into opposing us. I never made any claim to that ability. I just said that Thirdfain couldn't stop us; the Alliance's limitations outside of our ability to crush the Hajr should we be disposed to do so weren't in the equation.

I think, Rogue9, that you underestimate me wildly. I have had and continue to have the resources to smash your alliance peicemeal, even in open military conflict. Just because you can only measure power in fleet bases and warships doesn't mean there aren't other forms just as potent. I strongly suspect that any effort made by your Alliance to defeat the Hajr would end with your own destruction. If you would like to test this, feel free- I stand ready.

That's a pretty bold claim, Thirdfain, Rogue's alliance has 3 or 4 nations, that's a lot of firepower.
Of course I seriously doubt the Ousters would find themselves alone in such a conflict, their support to the galaxy at large in destroying the machines has been invaluable.

[Rogue 9]

What pretensions of galactic domination? I simply said that Thirdfain, by himself, could not stop the combined Alliance from seizing hegemony. I also said that we do not desire hegemony, so the point is moot. If you want to (correctly) claim that we couldn't dominate the galaxy, take it up with Thirdfain who was claiming that we could and would in order to scare Monacora into opposing us. I never made any claim to that ability. I just said that Thirdfain couldn't stop us; the Alliance's limitations outside of our ability to crush the Hajr should we be disposed to do so weren't in the equation.

I think, Rogue9, that you underestimate me wildly. I have had and continue to have the resources to smash your alliance peicemeal, even in open military conflict. Just because you can only measure power in fleet bases and warships doesn't mean there aren't other forms just as potent. I strongly suspect that any effort made by your Alliance to defeat the Hajr would end with your own destruction. If you would like to test this, feel free- I stand ready.

I've got no plans to start a war of conquest. Why people can't figure this out, I have no idea.