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Most people top in the McCain campaign now believe New Mexico and Iowa are gone, that Barack Obama will win New Mexico and Iowa. They are now off the dream list of the McCain campaign. More interestingly, most top people inside the McCain campaign think Colorado is gone.

So they are now finishing with a very risky strategy. Win Florida. Win Nevada ... And here is the biggest risk of all -- yes they have to win North Carolina, yes they have to win Ohio, yes they have to win Virginia, trailing or dead-even in all those states right now. But they are betting Wolf on coming back and taking the state of Pennsylvania. It has become the critical state now in the McCain electoral scenario. And they are down 10, 12, and even 14 points in some polls there. But they say as Colorado, Iowa and other states drift away, they think they have to take a big state. 21 electoral votes in Pennsylvania, Wolf, watch that state over the next few weeks.

SancheztheWhaler wrote:Hey Tribun, CNN is reporting the gap between Obama and McCain is closing; is it time to panic yet?

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/20/cnn.poll/


I'm really curious to see what effect Powell's endorsement of Obama has on the polls and, ultimately, the election.

Durandal wrote:Well, it didn't work for Hillary. So it's bound to work for McCain, right?

Jesus, his campaign stinks of desperation.

Crossroads Inc. wrote:So the latest Fox News Electoral Map has Obama dropping BELOW McCain's Electoral Vote!
189 McCain
183 Obama

Currently they list the following states as "TossUps"

Minnesota
Wisconsin
Michigan
Iowa
Pennsylvanian
Oregon
New Mexico

Can someone say deluded?

RedImperator wrote:

Crossroads Inc. wrote:So the latest Fox News Electoral Map has Obama dropping BELOW McCain's Electoral Vote!
189 McCain
183 Obama

Currently they list the following states as "TossUps"

Minnesota
Wisconsin
Michigan
Iowa
Pennsylvanian
Oregon
New Mexico

Can someone say deluded?

No, they're not deluded. "Deluded" gives them too much credit. They're just plain lying.

RedImperator wrote:

SancheztheWhaler wrote:Hey Tribun, CNN is reporting the gap between Obama and McCain is closing; is it time to panic yet?

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/20/cnn.poll/


I'm really curious to see what effect Powell's endorsement of Obama has on the polls and, ultimately, the election.

OH MY GOD, IT'S A STATISTICALLY INSIGNIFICANT MCCAIN UPTICK! SOMEBODY CALL THE CANADIAN CONSULATE! WE GOTTA GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE!

angrytoaster: this a site run by ACORN? give me FOX NEWS links
me: it's a Pew poll they're like gallup. they're non-partisan, non-advocacy

angrytoaster: uh that's too massive a gap. I just heard yesterday that these guys are in a tie. So this means I cannot trust anyone because it appears that no one is qualified to make such claims....or they are out right liars. it is very troubling

me: or you can check the non-partisan groups i.e. Pew and Gallup and then see for yourself
angrytoaster: no. they appear to be making claims that are not true. that's my point
me: or they are true and you've been misinformed up to this point. Who told you they're tied?
angrytoaster: dude...who is really non partisan? that's an oxymoron
...
angrytoaster: yeah I cannot recall exactly but I think it was Orielly and some FOX news footage
me: people who are paid to collect data and post data. There are non partisan groups. If you think FOX news is non-partisan, that's your 1st mistake right there
angrytoaster: uh...did I actually say that? they are pretty fair and balanced
me: you eluded that Fox news was where you got your "facts" and that the Pew polls are "claims"
angrytoaster: but I never said non-partisan
me: if there were a news network that was as left wing as Fox news is right-wing, people would riot all media is biased, one way or the other
angrytoaster: being non-partisan doesn't guarantee non-bias. Dude that's called CNN
me: data has no bias, we engineers know that. So, by your admission Fox news is as biased as CNN?
angrytoaster: uh dude...ever hear of doctoring data or miss calculation?
me: so we can assume that all news is biased and all data is faulty?
angrytoaster: or data error
or data loss
or bad polling
or or or
know what I mean
me: so then to answer my question above....?
we can't trust anyone?
angrytoaster: right now I am assuming that I do not know who to trust, it's frustrating. which is my point

Erik von Nein wrote:Apparently not enough people, if those polls are anything to go by.

MRDOD wrote:Anyhow, the bottom line: The ground game of Obama is a well-oiled machine, registering thousands if not tens of thousands students, and I expect them to deliver high hundreds, low thousands of voters for early voting if not more.

The McCain supporters just seem to hang out for a few hours a day near a tent with posters and then hang up and go home.

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Al-Qaida supporters suggested in a Web site message this week they would welcome a pre-election terror attack on the U.S. as a way to usher in a McCain presidency.

The message, posted Monday on the password-protected al-Hesbah Web site, said if al-Qaida wants to exhaust the United States militarily and economically, "impetuous" Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain is the better choice because he is more likely to continue the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"This requires presence of an impetuous American leader such as McCain, who pledged to continue the war till the last American soldier," the message said. "Then, al-Qaida will have to support McCain in the coming elections so that he continues the failing march of his predecessor, Bush."

SITE Intelligence Group, based in Bethesda, Md., monitors the Web site and translated the message.

"If al-Qaida carries out a big operation against American interests," the message said, "this act will be support of McCain because it will push the Americans deliberately to vote for McCain so that he takes revenge for them against al-Qaida. Al-Qaida then will succeed in exhausting America till its last year in it."

Mark Salter, a senior McCain adviser, said he had heard about the Web site chatter but had no immediate comment.

The message is credited to a frequent and apparently respected contributor named Muhammad Haafid. However, Haafid is not believed to have a direct affiliation with al-Qaida plans or knowledge of its operations, according to SITE.

SITE senior analyst Adam Raisman said this message caught SITE's attention because there has been little other chatter on the forums about the U.S. election.

SITE was struck by the message's detailed analysis - and apparent jubilation - about American financial woes.

"What we try to do is get the pulse of the jihadist community," Raisman said. "And it's about the financial crisis."

Al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden issued a videotape just four days before the 2004 U.S. presidential election directly addressing the American people.

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Ender wrote:AQ endorses McCain

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Al-Qaida supporters suggested in a Web site message this week they would welcome a pre-election terror attack on the U.S. as a way to usher in a McCain presidency.

The message, posted Monday on the password-protected al-Hesbah Web site, said if al-Qaida wants to exhaust the United States militarily and economically, "impetuous" Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain is the better choice because he is more likely to continue the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"This requires presence of an impetuous American leader such as McCain, who pledged to continue the war till the last American soldier," the message said. "Then, al-Qaida will have to support McCain in the coming elections so that he continues the failing march of his predecessor, Bush."

SITE Intelligence Group, based in Bethesda, Md., monitors the Web site and translated the message.

"If al-Qaida carries out a big operation against American interests," the message said, "this act will be support of McCain because it will push the Americans deliberately to vote for McCain so that he takes revenge for them against al-Qaida. Al-Qaida then will succeed in exhausting America till its last year in it."

Mark Salter, a senior McCain adviser, said he had heard about the Web site chatter but had no immediate comment.

The message is credited to a frequent and apparently respected contributor named Muhammad Haafid. However, Haafid is not believed to have a direct affiliation with al-Qaida plans or knowledge of its operations, according to SITE.

SITE senior analyst Adam Raisman said this message caught SITE's attention because there has been little other chatter on the forums about the U.S. election.

SITE was struck by the message's detailed analysis - and apparent jubilation - about American financial woes.

"What we try to do is get the pulse of the jihadist community," Raisman said. "And it's about the financial crisis."

Al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden issued a videotape just four days before the 2004 U.S. presidential election directly addressing the American people.

© 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. Learn more about our Privacy Policy.

Metatwaddle wrote:Actually, I expect the McCain campaign to say that al-Qaeda is doing exactly that, in reverse: endorsing McCain publicly to try to get Obama elected.

The Romulan Republic wrote:

Metatwaddle wrote:Actually, I expect the McCain campaign to say that al-Qaeda is doing exactly that, in reverse: endorsing McCain publicly to try to get Obama elected.

Of course. I'm just wondering why Al Qaeda would issue such a counter productive statement. They've done very well recruitment and propaganda wise out of the last 8 years, and McCain offers more of the same.