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Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)
Posted: 2009-01-19 06:41am
by The Romulan Republic
Anyone know where I can catch the new episodes on Canadian Cable TV? The Space Channle use to show them, but it looks like either they've taken them off or the time has changed.
Also, regarding Dooku's capture, while I haven't seen it yet, it doesn't really surprise me that much. Jedi have been shown to be vulnerable to groups of gun-weilding adversaries. Indeed, I could almost go so far as to say this is nessissary to counter the examples of obsene EU wanking of Force user combat powers (ie, The Force Unleashed, Dark Empire, some EU depictions of Master Luke, maybe the RoTS novelization). While I appreciate that a Jedi or Sith should be powerful, I find it annoying to see them exhibitting combat powers on a level that puts Star Destroyers to shame.
Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)
Posted: 2009-01-19 07:03am
by Vympel
Well it's more a matter that Dooku let both his and Anakin's lightsabre somehow get taken away from him offscreen. Buggered if I know how that happened.
Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)
Posted: 2009-01-19 10:42am
by Serafina
How they took the lightsabers? Pickpocketing - they ARE thiefes, after all.
I think Dooku did not really pay attention - after all, he is a mighty sithlord, what could some thugs possibly do?
Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)
Posted: 2009-01-19 06:55pm
by Braedley
The Romulan Republic wrote:Anyone know where I can catch the new episodes on Canadian Cable TV? The Space Channle use to show them, but it looks like either they've taken them off or the time has changed.
It was pre-empted last week by BSG Day. It's on again this weekend, but I think it's an episode that Space has already aired.
Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)
Posted: 2009-01-19 07:49pm
by Vympel
I think Dooku did not really pay attention - after all, he is a mighty sithlord, what could some thugs possibly do?
True - arrogance matters. No one can credibly say it means much when we've got Anakin being able to forsee the flight path of Wessell's speeder in AotC that he hurled himself to his otherwise certain death if he didn't know exactly where she'd be.
Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)
Posted: 2009-01-20 12:28am
by Ender
For those complaining about Dooku going down easily once surrounded by guys with guns, may I remind you that that is Order 66 in a nutshell?
Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)
Posted: 2009-01-20 04:47pm
by Thanas
Whoever plays Aayla Secura should get the voice checked. Suddenly Twi'leks speak like "generic east european accent?"
Whatever happened to "gravity well of a star will knock out hyperdrive?"
Also, Padawan Bratz is starting to annoy me. Suddenly she is the expert on fixing things as well?
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Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)
Posted: 2009-01-20 05:38pm
by Vympel
It's a French accent - it was GL's decision, if you watch the commentary for the episode.
Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)
Posted: 2009-01-20 05:43pm
by Thanas
French? GL and I must have met different frenchmen, then. What was the reason given for the accent? Or was it simply a case of "GL liked it?"
Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)
Posted: 2009-01-20 07:01pm
by The Original Nex
Thanas wrote:French? GL and I must have met different frenchmen, then. What was the reason given for the accent? Or was it simply a case of "GL liked it?"
It was originally intended for her to have a "streetwise" American accent, but GL overrode that because apparently he "envisions" Twi'leks having "French" accents... Ok George, tell that to Bib Fortuna... or Oola...
Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)
Posted: 2009-01-20 10:10pm
by Knife
The Original Nex wrote:Thanas wrote:French? GL and I must have met different frenchmen, then. What was the reason given for the accent? Or was it simply a case of "GL liked it?"
It was originally intended for her to have a "streetwise" American accent, but GL overrode that because apparently he "envisions" Twi'leks having "French" accents... Ok George, tell that to Bib Fortuna... or Oola...
De wanna wanna?
Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)
Posted: 2009-01-20 11:33pm
by open_sketchbook
Well, there is an episode where the Twi'lek homeworld is liberated by the Clones, and the Normandy Landings aspect is pushed hard. The accent is likely part of that.
Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)
Posted: 2009-01-21 02:30am
by VT-16
Bib Fortuna only spoke Huttese, last time I checked. The French accent was adopted for the whole Twi'lek species so that's going to figure in the upcoming trilogy episode. I really don't get how you could mistake that for "generic Eastern European", though.
Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)
Posted: 2009-01-21 08:10am
by Vympel
No, Bib Fortuna speaks English in RotJ - the "he's no Jedi" line.
Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)
Posted: 2009-01-21 08:19am
by VT-16
Well, he's been with Jabba for several decades at least. But that makes me wonder if Aayla is also keeping in touch with her own culture, given the sharing of the accent. Maybe like the old
Jedi Watchman title of the TOTJ comics.
Also forgot, in the films we have three different accents/gutteral sounds coming from one species: the Gran.
Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)
Posted: 2009-01-21 02:09pm
by NecronLord
The Original Nex wrote:
It was originally intended for her to have a "streetwise" American accent, but GL overrode that because apparently he "envisions" Twi'leks having "French" accents... Ok George, tell that to Bib Fortuna... or Oola...
There's hundreds of reasons they might not speak alike
For a start, Aayla, being a jedi, would largely have been raised on
Coruscant. There's no reason should have the same accent as those hicks in the arse end of beyond.
Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)
Posted: 2009-01-21 02:12pm
by open_sketchbook
GASP. Some members of the same species have different accents! My God, George Lucas must be losing it!
IT GETS WORSE. Some of the humans in the Original Trilogy have American accents, and some have English accents! Wheres the consistency? My suspension of disbelief is broken. Thanks for ruining Star Wars, George.

Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)
Posted: 2009-01-21 02:41pm
by The Romulan Republic
Out of curiosity, did we ever hear Aayla speak in the Prequel Trilogy, and if so, what was her accent?
Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)
Posted: 2009-01-21 02:58pm
by Lord Revan
The Romulan Republic wrote:Out of curiosity, did we ever hear Aayla speak in the Prequel Trilogy, and if so, what was her accent?
never, she was played by a ILM employer (forgot what her actual job was(the "actress" that is)), she was suppose to have line in ROTS but that was cut IIRC, we did hear her speak in the Clone wars animation series but I can't remember what her accent was like.
EDIT:the actress who played Aayla in the movies is called Amy Allen and most of her task seem to production assistant tasks for ILM.
Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)
Posted: 2009-01-21 04:35pm
by The Original Nex
Lord Revan wrote:The Romulan Republic wrote:Out of curiosity, did we ever hear Aayla speak in the Prequel Trilogy, and if so, what was her accent?
never, she was played by a ILM employer (forgot what her actual job was(the "actress" that is)), she was suppose to have line in ROTS but that was cut IIRC, we did hear her speak in the Clone wars animation series but I can't remember what her accent was like.
EDIT:the actress who played Aayla in the movies is called Amy Allen and most of her task seem to production assistant tasks for ILM.
IIRC she did have speaking lines in the script for RotS, but they were slashed.
Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)
Posted: 2009-01-22 12:32am
by Galvatron
Having seen every episode of this new series so far, am I alone in thinking that this is by far the best depiction of Anakin Skywalker yet? Everything from his voice to his behavior just seem far more mature and heroic than Hayden Christensen ever did in ROTS. I might have actually enjoyed the prequels if he'd been more like his CG self the whole time.
Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)
Posted: 2009-01-22 12:53am
by Havok
Galvatron wrote:Having seen every episode of this new series so far, am I alone in thinking that this is by far the best depiction of Anakin Skywalker yet? Everything from his voice to his behavior just seem far more mature and heroic than Hayden Christensen ever did in ROTS. I might have actually enjoyed the prequels if he'd been more like his CG self the whole time.
I thought the same thing about the original Clone Wars cartoon shorts.
Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)
Posted: 2009-01-22 11:23am
by seanrobertson
NecronLord wrote:
For a start, Aayla, being a jedi, would largely have been raised on Coruscant. There's no reason should have the same accent as those hicks in the arse end of beyond.
Very true.
It's funny accents came up; as I watched the last CW, it struck me that we've had a fair diversity of accents among Jedi:
*French (sexy blue chick)
*Midwest North American (Skywalker, Snips, Windu, Kota)
*Caribbean (Fisto)
*Irish (Jinn)
*English (old Kenobi, Dooku, Unduli, Jocasta Nu, Mundi, (Plo Koon?), that little Jake Lloyd-looking kid Vader was about to skewer in "ROTS")
*Scottish (young Kenobi)
Irish, English and Scottish -- shit, even many U.S. and Canadian accents -- are all fairly similar. Deviations from within those categories could be attributed to a host of things (where the Jedi spends most of his time off-Coruscant, his/her master's accent, how he/she sounded before initiation, etc.).
But the others ... hmmm

Given the age at which most Jedi are taken in, I would expect the more distinctive accents to be
extreme abberations. When Aayla sounds French or Fisto sounds like a guy from Trinidad, I wonder: When they were younglings, padawans and so on, with whom did they spend most of their time? Why didn't they grow to sound more like their masters or, for that matter, the majority of Jedi?
We've only seen a handful of these "foreign"-sounding characters, but it bugs me that they're invariably non-human. We can
see that they're not human, for heaven's sake. We don't need to be beat about the head with a "funny" accent to differentiate them from the rest

Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)
Posted: 2009-01-22 11:27am
by Ender
seanrobertson wrote:
We've only seen a handful of these "foreign"-sounding characters, but it bugs me that they're invariably non-human. We can
see that they're not human, for heaven's sake. We don't need to be beat about the head with a "funny" accent to differentiate them from the rest

Perhaps their vocal chords can't quite exactly match human speech, resulting in the accents?
Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)
Posted: 2009-01-22 01:40pm
by Connor MacLeod
Or translations. We might assume some extremely sophisticated sort of dubbing for our benefit.