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Posted: **2009-05-25 08:42pm**

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:We are actually allowing the TIE Predator? I actually considered researching a prototype similar to it. But if no research is required...

Which is why it's likely to get edited out, that and it's the TIE fighter than the Imperial forces use 120 years from when the game is. 127 years but that's quibbling.

See, this is why I was asking about types I'd not like to have everyone flying the equivalent of World War I Bip-planes and Tri-planes and then here comes a P-51 Mustang with a big WTF? from the rest of us.

Posted: **2009-05-25 08:44pm**

I think the Predator will be struck. At least that is what I'll recommend.

I'll also recommend the elimination of most of the useless variants.

Posted: **2009-05-25 09:33pm**

Thanas wrote:I think the Predator will be struck. At least that is what I'll recommend.

I'll also recommend the elimination of most of the useless variants.

From my own prospective that would cut the list down(Imperial side) to the following

Fighter Craft - Standard
TIE Fighter
TIE Interceptor
TIE Aggressor
TIE Hunter

Fighter Craft - Advanced
TIE Marauder
TIE Avenger ("Advanced")
TIE Defender Mk-I

Fighter Craft - Experimental
TIE Defender Mk-II
TIE Reaper
TIE Triwing Phantom (cloak)

Bomber Craft - Standard
TIE Bomber
TIE Torpedo Bomber
TIE Rapier

Bomber Craft - Advanced
TIE Scimitar Assault Bomber
TIE Talon Capship Assault
TIE Oppressor

Support Craft-Standard
TIE/EW
TIE Scout
TIE Assault Shuttle

The Imperial Fight section is the only area of real bloat, everything else, Republic, Non-aligned and CIS are pretty much base models only but the Imperial Fighter section has so many one-off's it's not even funny.

Posted: **2009-05-26 01:08am**

So what Sith activity?

We haven't even written anything Sithy yet.

Posted: **2009-05-26 02:26am**

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:So what Sith activity? We haven't even written anything Sithy yet.

*cough* Shady glassing a word *cough*

Posted: **2009-05-26 02:33am**

Thanas wrote:
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:So what Sith activity? We haven't even written anything Sithy yet.
*cough* Shady glassing a word *cough*

*checks*

Nope! No world glassed, yet.

And that post isn't even on the same caliber as that post I did with Shady in the fantasy STGODs.

Posted: **2009-05-26 02:35am**

By the time you arrived from Kuat, sure. Otherwise his forces hover over a planet for over three days...doing nothing.

Oh, and most likely being stared at by my Core fleet.

Posted: **2009-05-26 02:38am**

Thanas wrote:By the time you arrived from Kuat, sure. Otherwise his forces hover over a planet for over three days...doing nothing.

Oh, and most likely being stared at by my Core fleet.

There's no such thing as hyperspace sensors with high resolution.

Posted: **2009-05-26 02:41am**

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:
Thanas wrote:By the time you arrived from Kuat, sure. Otherwise his forces hover over a planet for over three days...doing nothing.

Oh, and most likely being stared at by my Core fleet.
There's no such thing as hyperspace sensors with high resolution.

a) they wouldn't be in hyperspace anymore
b) Remember how my core fleet was notified of their hyperspace vector?
c) Search parties and scout ships were sent out.

Posted: **2009-05-26 02:46am**

Thanas wrote:a) they wouldn't be in hyperspace anymore
b) Remember how my core fleet was notified of their hyperspace vector?
c) Search parties and scout ships were sent out.

Pfft. There are so many damn ways to evade them.

1. You need time to even send them. You would dare send them while you are within Koros Major?

2. There are hundreds of worlds in the Deep Core.

3. He could jump his ships. Stop, reorientate, and then continue jumping. Repeat that et. infinitum. Given Koros Major's location in the Deep Core, it's in fact a necessity because of the lack of long jump routes. How are your scout craft going to keep track when he probably was in hyperspace hours before you can send scout ships?

Posted: **2009-05-26 02:48am**

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:
Thanas wrote:a) they wouldn't be in hyperspace anymore
b) Remember how my core fleet was notified of their hyperspace vector?
c) Search parties and scout ships were sent out.
Pfft. There are so many damn ways to evade them.

1. You need time to even send them. You would dare send them while you are within Koros Major?

Notify our fleet bases and order them to send them? Sure.

2. There are hundreds of worlds in the Deep Core.

Not that many populated along a very narrow hyperspace vector.

3. He could jump his ships. Stop, reorientate, and then continue jumping. Repeat that et. infinitum. Given Koros Major's location in the Deep Core, it's in fact a necessity because of the lack of long jump routes. How are your scout craft going to keep track when he probably was in hyperspace hours before you can send scout ships?

Nope. He jumped directly to his target. One jump. Oh, and going by his OOC posts, he wants the IR to see what he is doing.

Posted: **2009-05-26 03:00am**

Thanas wrote:By the time you arrived from Kuat, sure. Otherwise his forces hover over a planet for over three days...doing nothing.

Oh, and most likely being stared at by my Core fleet.

We get to be introduced to the bit of fun I like to call

Hyperspace navigation

From the rim to the core worlds in three days? Can be done along a hyperspace route. Even better along main hyperspace routes. Coruscant to Corellia? Four hours, in fact from Courscant you can hit all of the Imperial Remnants worlds under an hour, same thing with the CP. The problem is when you try to cut cross Galaxy. There's a reason hyperspace routes are so popular, they are well charted fast lanes which let you show off that hyperdrive's top speed.

One of the reasons for the current limited membership in the Core group is the fact we can be at each others worlds in much less than a day. In fact from some planets it's measures in minutes of hyperspace travel time, the major time sinks being getting outside the system's mass shadow and accelerating to wherever the combat is occurring.

Posted: **2009-05-26 03:19am**

^Yeah, but this planet was close to his worlds already and also, Kuat probably took more than 3 days.

Time flow is kinda crazy at the moment anyway, I vote that once we have our OOBs finalized, we reset the clock.

Posted: **2009-05-26 04:32am**

And for those wondering if you catch the hint, Moruth Doole shuttle in a twist of fate is the same one Solo and Kyp would have stolen in an alternate time line that now will never happen.

Posted: **2009-05-26 07:32am**

The world glassing has been delayed...for now.

My plans have changed and I've decided not to do anything major yet, until we finalize things and sort out these minor problems.

Posted: **2009-05-26 07:58am**

Shady, you evil bastard.

I had a whole emergency council planned with outrage from the rebels, faux outrage from the Imps and indifference from others.

Now I have to scrap the whole thing.

Posted: **2009-05-26 08:41am**

Excellent organization of the ships, Bean. I'll try to organize the other factions' fighters along similar grounds.

Have our Bothans disappeared? As for everyone else who sent diplomats, I'll have replies up today. Then we can get that delicious trade going. As OOBs are finalized, we'll already have some of this in place.

Posted: **2009-05-26 09:43am**

Thanas wrote:Shady, you evil bastard.

I had a whole emergency council planned with outrage from the rebels, faux outrage from the Imps and indifference from others.

Now I have to scrap the whole thing.

Much hidden plans are afoot.

Posted: **2009-05-26 10:58am**

So I've been looking over OOBs, and you all suck for having such uniform fleets.

On a more serious note, while it isn't much of an issue since hardly anybody used them, I am wondering what the fuck the following warship classes are supposed to be (on the Imperial side, the Republic/Seperatists/Independent may have similar "mystery ships") and wonder if we should bother keep them. Since we trimmed the TIE lists, I figure we might as well discuss these. Me and Wookieepedia have no idea what they are.

Frigates: 3 Points
Nebulon-A-----------------Length: 300 m (6 mos)
Nebulon B (med.)----------Length: 300 m (8 mos) (what's the difference between this and a normal Nebulon B?)
Nebulon D-----------------Length: 300 m (6 mos)
Nebulon H-----------------Length: 340 m (6 mos)

Cruisers, Medium: 6 points
Ecliptic-II -----------------Length: 752 m (10 mos) (I assume it is this?)

Star Destroyers, Light: 8 points
Cantwell----------------- Length: 750 m (8 mos)
Senator------------------ Length: 870 m (10 mos)
Quasar------------------- Length: 1200 m (10 mos) (NOT the Quasar Fire, which is covered in another part of the list)

Star Destroyers: 12 points
Spectre ---------------- Length: 1600 m (11 mos)
Emperor------------------ Length: 1600 m (12 mos)
Nemesis class------------ Length: 1600 m (14 mos) (This is a Legacy era ship. near as I can tell)
Dominator (grav)--------- Length: 1600 m (14 mos)

Star Destroyers, Heavy: (You must command at least 5 "Major" or higher worlds to build these) (Yes, the entire group)
Eradicator--------------- Length: 3,500 m (16 mos, (20 points)
Star Lord---------------- Length: 3,900 m (16 mos, 22 points)
Overlord----------------- Length: 6,200 m (18 mos, 45 points)
Dark Sky----------------- Length: 7,400 m (20 mos, 60 points)
The player is limited to building four of each.

Posted: **2009-05-26 11:05am**

Eh? Nemesis is legacy? I thought it was a Pellaeon class and Impervious (or Imperious) class?

Posted: **2009-05-26 11:15am**

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Eh? Nemesis is legacy? I thought it was a Pellaeon class and Impervious (or Imperious) class?

The only Nemesis-class I found on Wookiepedia is a Legacy Era patrol ship.

Posted: **2009-05-26 11:16am**

RogueIce wrote:Nebulon B (med.)----------Length: 300 m (8 mos) (what's the difference between this and a normal Nebulon B?)

It is the medical frigate version of it, aka the floating hospital.

The other neb-D and H should be struck.

Cruisers, Medium: 6 points
Ecliptic-II -----------------Length: 752 m (10 mos) (I assume it is this?)

Correct.

Star Destroyers, Light: 8 pointsQuasar------------------- Length: 1200 m (10 mos) (NOT the Quasar Fire, which is covered in another part of the list)

Yes, not the same.

I don't know what it is either...maybe better scrap it as well.

Star Destroyers: 12 points
Spectre ---------------- Length: 1600 m (11 mos)
Emperor------------------ Length: 1600 m (12 mos)
Nemesis class------------ Length: 1600 m (14 mos) (This is a Legacy era ship. near as I can tell)

All should be struck.

Dominator (grav)--------- Length: 1600 m (14 mos)

THis is the ISD interdictor variant, here is a link.

Star Destroyers, Heavy: (You must command at least 5 "Major" or higher worlds to build these) (Yes, the entire group)
Eradicator--------------- Length: 3,500 m (16 mos, (20 points)

This seems to be the name given to this, though it should have the length corrected to 3.1 km.

Star Lord---------------- Length: 3,900 m (16 mos, 22 points)

fanon name for this ship

Overlord----------------- Length: 6,200 m (18 mos, 45 points)

This is this one

Dark Sky----------------- Length: 7,400 m (20 mos, 60 points)

It is this one.

Posted: **2009-05-26 11:22am**

Thanas wrote:
RogueIce wrote:Nebulon B (med.)----------Length: 300 m (8 mos) (what's the difference between this and a normal Nebulon B?)
It is the medical frigate version of it, aka the floating hospital.

Oh. Duh. Well, I used a Modular Taskforce medical variant for those, anyway.

Dominator (grav)--------- Length: 1600 m (14 mos)
THis is the ISD interdictor variant, here is a link.

Yeah. I meant to take it out of that post but forgot.

Star Destroyers, Heavy: (You must command at least 5 "Major" or higher worlds to build these) (Yes, the entire group)
Eradicator--------------- Length: 3,500 m (16 mos, (20 points)
This seems to be the name given to this, though it should have the length corrected to 3.1 km.

Star Lord---------------- Length: 3,900 m (16 mos, 22 points)
fanon name for this ship

Overlord----------------- Length: 6,200 m (18 mos, 45 points)
This is this one

Dark Sky----------------- Length: 7,400 m (20 mos, 60 points)
It is this one.

I see. I suppose at some point we'd have to come up with stats for those, but since it'll be awhile before we get there I guess we have time.

Posted: **2009-05-26 11:25am**

Dominator: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dominator_(Interdictor)

ISD scaled interdictor.

Posted: **2009-05-26 12:58pm**

Thanas wrote:Shady, you evil bastard.

I had a whole emergency council planned with outrage from the rebels, faux outrage from the Imps and indifference from others.

Now I have to scrap the whole thing.

Sorry, but this sort of thing comes with being an evil bastard.

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