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Rogue 9 wrote:Okay, important question: How are we handling divination magic? I made my king's wizard advisor a diviner without really thinking about it, since it seems the natural choice, but the more I think about it, the harder-pressed I am to figure out how to fairly make it work in the game.

Divination magic is praying that the God of Confusion lift his veil for but a moment, so that you might have clarity. Confusion is a fickle God, and can be capricious at times. Expect little more than vague Delphic-style riddles at best.

*Grumbles about how the frickin' Oracle at Delphi can kiss my ass.*

Thirdain, can the most recent map and other important information be put in a seperate thread? Or edited into the first post of this one?

StormtrooperOfDeath wrote:Thirdain, can the most recent map and other important information be put in a seperate thread? Or edited into the first post of this one?

Or put in the game information link thread at the top of the page?

When the map is well and truly done, I will put a link to it in my sig, replacing the STGOD4 map.

I will also have national pictures...yes...when the time is right.

But for now, sleep. So, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go learn...something...through something...

Pablo, just in case you missed it, on the second page there's a notice out your way from me.

Agent Fisher wrote:

Bugsby in the Diplomacy thread wrote:Although your offer of refuge in the anticipation of the destruction of a nation you profess to seek peace with is... appreciated... we decline

that is confusing

What that says is that we are a bit pissed at your offer. You allow refuge in case we are invaded. That is nice. But what is not appreciated is the tacit implication that we will need to use this service. This is especially disturbing when you say you want to be our friend, yet in the same breath make reference to some impending doom. Pretty much, that's the nice political way of telling you to fuck off.

Sorry I posted all those at once... heh.

No worries. Nice seal by the way.

frigidmagi wrote:No worries. Nice seal by the way.

Thanks! I stole it from "congregation of what is now called the Groote Kerk"...
which basically means I did a google image search; found something that I liked and was easy to edit and wala, the official symbol of the Kings of Normandy. I may send out some more letters later but for now I need sleep, the clock now reads 3am!

I have a map now, but nowhere to host it. How can I solve this?

Hotfoot wrote:

Rogue 9 wrote:Okay, important question: How are we handling divination magic? I made my king's wizard advisor a diviner without really thinking about it, since it seems the natural choice, but the more I think about it, the harder-pressed I am to figure out how to fairly make it work in the game.

Divination magic is praying that the God of Confusion lift his veil for but a moment, so that you might have clarity. Confusion is a fickle God, and can be capricious at times. Expect little more than vague Delphic-style riddles at best.

Except the God of Confusion sure as hell doesn't exist!


Though Al-Samit is a confusing god in his own right.... but still! So, would it work the same way for me or a different way?

I'm counting 69 uses of the word Jihad or a derivation of it, yet a grand total of TWO letters to me. Can't we get a little respect around here.


Also I'm a looking and seeing that people in Italy (prehaps the last place I could possibly get to) and France, not to mention England, are all allying up against me. Come on people, use your heads, Italy stands to gain nothing by entering into an "anti-jihaddi" alliance because as long as the Greeks, Spanish, and islanders ally against me I'm never going to be able to get to Italy. Same goes for France, and heck if I can get to Britain riding the blood machine that I am, nothing is going to be able to stop me, mass alliance or not! So why are all your leaders seemingly throwing common sense out the window to band together for something that is obviously going to be nothing but a burden in times to come.

Folks, this massive example is a great opportunity for anyone interested in expanding their spheres of influence in mainland Europe. After all, if Masotan is off fighting the Jihad, who's gonna stop you from making a little land grab?

Straha wrote:Also I'm a looking and seeing that people in Italy

We are only defending our right to the free seas

Straha wrote:I'm counting 69 uses of the word Jihad or a derivation of it, yet a grand total of TWO letters to me. Can't we get a little respect around here.


Also I'm a looking and seeing that people in Italy (prehaps the last place I could possibly get to) and France, not to mention England, are all allying up against me. Come on people, use your heads, Italy stands to gain nothing by entering into an "anti-jihaddi" alliance because as long as the Greeks, Spanish, and islanders ally against me I'm never going to be able to get to Italy. Same goes for France, and heck if I can get to Britain riding the blood machine that I am, nothing is going to be able to stop me, mass alliance or not! So why are all your leaders seemingly throwing common sense out the window to band together for something that is obviously going to be nothing but a burden in times to come.

Why? I'll tell you why! CRRUUUUSSSSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDEEEEE!

Straha wrote:Except the God of Confusion sure as hell doesn't exist!

Silly mortal, of course I do.

Though Al-Samit is a confusing god in his own right.... but still! So, would it work the same way for me or a different way?

Confusion finds the natural confusion of extremists to be fascinating, and as such would gladly don the face of another to further toy with the already fragile minds of mortals.

Agent Fisher wrote:

Straha wrote:Also I'm a looking and seeing that people in Italy

We are only defending our right to the free seas

Well I'm not stopping you from doing whatever you want in the seas, I'm just telling you where you can, and where you can't trade in my nation. Also, seeing that wall and all, I would figure you have more immeadiete concerns to the north then you would to the East, so why are you even going to think about sending troops over my way, when doing so would leave you exposed to some for whom you built a massive wall to keep out?

Seriously, I'm just trying to point out some common sense here, the only nation that has any sort of viable interest against me, that isn't directly in my path, is Nitram, and that's only because he wants a free air base to project power in the mediteranian. Of course anyone who gives it to him is liable to face a Guantonamo (I sure as hell hope I spelled that right) like situation, from Cuba's perspective.

Hotfoot wrote:

Straha wrote:Except the God of Confusion sure as hell doesn't exist!

Silly mortal, of course I do.

No, the three gods destroyed you as they did all the other evil gods. All that is left of you is your corrupting influence on the peoples of Earth!

Though Al-Samit is a confusing god in his own right.... but still! So, would it work the same way for me or a different way?

Confusion finds the natural confusion of extremists to be fascinating, and as such would gladly don the face of another to further toy with the already fragile minds of mortals.

Ah... so Al-Samit likes to play tricks on the other nations to help further the Jihad! Very clever, very clever!

Thirdfain wrote:Folks, this massive example is a great opportunity for anyone interested in expanding their spheres of influence in mainland Europe. After all, if Masotan is off fighting the Jihad, who's gonna stop you from making a little land grab?

Of course, I made an effort to cover that in my negotiations with Stormbringer. After we have successfully destroyed the jihad, the deployment of our militia to clean Masotan's house would be a distinct possibility.

Hotfoot, can you host my map? It is a 72k Jpg.

Motherfucking graphics card got ruined and I had to buy a new one. In the meantime, my monitor was fucked, so I haven't been able to use my comp for a few days. I'm working on finishing my OOB.

Thirdfain wrote:Folks, this massive example is a great opportunity for anyone interested in expanding their spheres of influence in mainland Europe. After all, if Masotan is off fighting the Jihad, who's gonna stop you from making a little land grab?

The rest of the Masotani army.

Straha wrote:I'm counting 69 uses of the word Jihad or a derivation of it, yet a grand total of TWO letters to me. Can't we get a little respect around here.

That's because everyone knows what your letter said, and no one really likes the idea of having anything to do with you now.

Although, to be fair, everyone who knows what that letter said is METAGAMING. That was a personal missive from Lord Brend, delivered by secret courier. The response was received, Brend told the Council. Then the Council gave a summary of what was in that letter to the head political council at Cyprus, again by secret courier. So the only people who know what that letter says are:

The Illian Council
The High Priest, or whoever it was in the Jihad who wrote the letter
The Cyprus Council, who received a summary of what the letter said.

I know I haven't been talking about my attempt to ally with the Jihad. I don't know about Stormtrooper. And if Straha is spreading word of what he said in that note, he sould be fully prepared for everyone to hate him.

Am I wrong?

Bugsby wrote:

Straha wrote:I'm counting 69 uses of the word Jihad or a derivation of it, yet a grand total of TWO letters to me. Can't we get a little respect around here.

That's because everyone knows what your letter said, and no one really likes the idea of having anything to do with you now.

Although, to be fair, everyone who knows what that letter said is METAGAMING. That was a personal missive from Lord Brend, delivered by secret courier. The response was received, Brend told the Council. Then the Council gave a summary of what was in that letter to the head political council at Cyprus, again by secret courier. So the only people who know what that letter says are:

The Illian Council
The High Priest, or whoever it was in the Jihad who wrote the letter
The Cyprus Council, who received a summary of what the letter said.

I know I haven't been talking about my attempt to ally with the Jihad. I don't know about Stormtrooper. And if Straha is spreading word of what he said in that note, he sould be fully prepared for everyone to hate him.

Am I wrong?

There is a fourth group of people: Nations which have spies in the Illian or Cyprus Councils.