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Posted: 2003-01-11 04:06pm
by Dooey Jo
Durandal wrote:By the way, your calculation doesn't take into account the inherent fluctuation in chances with a particular girl. As you get to know her, your chances with her will change. You could take an assessment of your chances with her at specific points in time, plot them and then graph them. Doing a curve-fit, you'll be able to identify the most probable trend and then find the local maximum of that curve. At that point, you'll have the best chance of scoring; this will normally be after a break-up or fight with a friend.
However, these things are generally chaotic and unpredictable. Just play it by ear, and you'll be a lot happier.
I had a friend who got a girl to break up with her boyfriend, just so my friend and the girl could be together. Everyone thought that she would never fall in love with him, even I didn't (though I had a feeling in the back of my head that she would), but she did fall in love with him. That was VERY unpredictable. But then again, chances increase with a particular girl for every day you spend with her, so maybe his chances weren't so bad after all...
Darth Wong wrote:
But what about the truly important question? What are the odds of convincing her to let you fuck her up the ass?
Going by porno logic I'd say it's about 90 % chance that she will let you do it on the first date. 99 % chance that she will let you do it before that...
The real odds are much lower, but if you ask her every night she will eventually let you do it. Or she might dump you. It depends on who she is, and what she thinks feel good, I suppose. One can always say: "How can you know if you like it, if you've never tried it", but that's pure evil because there is no way she can argue with that, and every person must have their own free will.
Posted: 2003-01-11 04:17pm
by Durandal
Dooey Jo wrote:Darth Wong wrote:But what about the truly important question? What are the odds of convincing her to let you fuck her up the ass?
Going by porno logic I'd say it's about 90 % chance that she will let you do it on the first date. 99 % chance that she will let you do it before that...
In porno, there is no statistic. It's a guarantee. Hell, it's more or less a polite greeting. I'd even bet it's considered impolite
not to do it.
"Hi, I'm Sally; what was your name? What? Oh
sure! Just wait a second while I take my pants off, then just ram it on in!"
Posted: 2003-01-11 07:23pm
by Darth Wong
Durandal wrote:Dooey Jo wrote:Darth Wong wrote:But what about the truly important question? What are the odds of convincing her to let you fuck her up the ass?
Going by porno logic I'd say it's about 90 % chance that she will let you do it on the first date. 99 % chance that she will let you do it before that...
In porno, there is no statistic. It's a guarantee. Hell, it's more or less a polite greeting. I'd even bet it's considered impolite
not to do it.
"Hi, I'm Sally; what was your name? What? Oh
sure! Just wait a second while I take my pants off, then just ram it on in!"
Isn't that how most women react? Hmmm, maybe I've been married too long

Posted: 2003-01-11 10:08pm
by J
*chuckle* I'm sorry, I just can't help but laugh a bit as this whole calculating love concept is just a bit alien to me. Oh boy, but anyways, listen, you can't derive and put numbers on love, it just doesn't work that way. Love is a subjective feelings thing, like music for example where everyone's tastes are different and you can't make meaningful predictions. Love is one of those things that you can't really know about unless you're out there taking part in it, there's just so many things involved that it's impossible to place numbers on it in advance, impossible.
All relationships have to start somewhere, and that start is friendship, without it the relationship won't last. Friendship starts from getting to know people, whether it be from talking to them in class, socializing in your dorm, or enjoying a TV show in the rec room. The main point is that you have to meet and get to know people, and from there just relax and let thing develop or maybe nudge things along a bit here and there.
That's how it works in a nutshell, so get out there and mingle! Don't obsess over getting a relationship out of people you meet, things'll take care of themselves, work on the friendship and getting to know people part.
Re: Shit! I'll never find a girlfriend!!
Posted: 2003-01-11 10:42pm
by Exonerate
aerius wrote:
Friends is where it all starts, so what if they already have a boyfriend? It just means they're unavailable for now, and when their relationships break up guess who they'll be turning to. You. Being friends is probably the best thing you could have, you get your hugs and cuddles and if you hang around the girls you'll meet a lot more girls.
In my honest opinion it's far better to have girls who are friends rather than girlfriends in highschool. At that age there's a whole bunch of petty stuff going on in relationships and very few relationships will survive past graduation. It's a really big hassle and usually leads to more trouble than good.
The way things worked out for me was that I had a bunch of girls I was friends with in high school, and 90% of them were in relationships, my current GF was one of those girls. We didn't get together & start dating until we'd both finished 2nd year university, but we did see and talk to each other a lot before that. Once you head off to college or university you'll find it's a whole new world, and if you live in a co-ed dorm you're pretty much guaranteed of having a GF. If you can say Hi to them you can do it, even if you stutter and struggle for words like I did at first. Unless you lock yourself in your room and refuse to be seen you'll be fine.
Good point. I'm going to impliment that now...
Re: Shit! I'll never find a girlfriend!!
Posted: 2003-01-11 10:45pm
by Darth Wong
Exonerate wrote:jmac wrote:Unless you lock yourself in your room and refuse to be seen you'll be fine.
Good point. I'm going to impliment that now...
You are? You'd better take some long-term provisions into your room with you, then

Re: Shit! I'll never find a girlfriend!!
Posted: 2003-01-11 11:13pm
by aerius
Exonerate wrote:
Good point. I'm going to impliment that now...
The girls as friends part or the locking yourself in a room never to be seen part? Having girls as friends is cool since you get hugged and cuddled a lot, while locking yourself in a room sucks, and may not work at keeping people away from you.
A guy I know went to university and lived in a co-ed dorm, and despite being surrounded by many friendly hot chicks he almost didn't get laid. This mis-guided dork was actively
avoiding the chicks and refusing to take part in social activities, and had actually locked himself in his own room! The only reason he got laid was because the chicks physically dragged him from his room, forced him to go out for drinks, and then they practically made him have sex with one of them! Dear god this guy had issues!

Posted: 2003-01-11 11:51pm
by Exonerate
I meant the part about staying friends with girls who are temporaily taken. I have my eye on somebody, but have yet to find out if she's taken yet. I've heard rumors, but nothing confirmed, and in my school, if I ask around, people will notice. Everybody's too smart and observant here

Re: Shit! I'll never find a girlfriend!!
Posted: 2003-01-12 05:40am
by Dooey Jo
aerius wrote:
A guy I know went to university and lived in a co-ed dorm, and despite being surrounded by many friendly hot chicks he almost didn't get laid. This mis-guided dork was actively
avoiding the chicks and refusing to take part in social activities, and had actually locked himself in his own room! The only reason he got laid was because the chicks physically dragged him from his room, forced him to go out for drinks, and then they practically made him have sex with one of them! Dear god this guy had issues!

Maybe he was gay? But that doesn't make sense. Why would he avoid chicks if he was gay? Why would he avoid chicks at all?
He should consider himself very lucky if he was that crazy and still got laid.
Re: Shit! I'll never find a girlfriend!!
Posted: 2003-01-12 05:48am
by Shinova
Dooey Jo wrote:aerius wrote:
A guy I know went to university and lived in a co-ed dorm, and despite being surrounded by many friendly hot chicks he almost didn't get laid. This mis-guided dork was actively
avoiding the chicks and refusing to take part in social activities, and had actually locked himself in his own room! The only reason he got laid was because the chicks physically dragged him from his room, forced him to go out for drinks, and then they practically made him have sex with one of them! Dear god this guy had issues!

Maybe he was gay? But that doesn't make sense. Why would he avoid chicks if he was gay? Why would he avoid chicks at all?
He should consider himself very lucky if he was that crazy and still got laid.
I think he didn't like the commitment involved in relationships. Or he could have been a girl-phobe or just too shy. Or maybe he was obsessed with keeping his virginity intact.
Or I think he was one of those people who said to themselves one day, "Between love and freedom, I choose freedom and that's what I will base my relationships with other people around from now on to the end of my life."
Posted: 2003-01-12 01:42pm
by aerius
This person just had issues. He actually had a relationship in high school for a bit, and he was quite a normal guy then. I think university just totally freaked him out and he couldn't deal with the changes so he ended up withdrawing into his room. Last I heard he was desperate for sex and taking rather drastic measures to get laid more. I don't talk to the guy anymore as he's really screwed up frienships with a lot of people including myself.
Re: Shit! I'll never find a girlfriend!!
Posted: 2003-01-12 02:04pm
by Alyrium Denryle
Dooey Jo wrote:I calculated how big the chances of me meeting a good-looking girl, about my age and single are. I came up with this answer: 0,7%!! And that's just how big the chances are that I will meet a very good-looking girl of the right age who's single. 0,7 % of every person I meet!! That's not very good. In fact, that's really, really bad. Now I'm going to be sad the rest of the week because of this. Crap! Why did I do this calculation? Why??
The question is:
What do you people do when you're sad?
Dont worry I wil never get a girlfriend either *chuckles*
Posted: 2003-01-12 02:30pm
by SWPIGWANG
I actually do lock myself in my room at dorm. (right now actually)
.............too depressed to socialize
Posted: 2003-01-12 03:22pm
by Darth Wong
SWPIGWANG wrote:I actually do lock myself in my room at dorm. (right now actually)
.............too depressed to socialize
And you figure locking yourself in your room will alleviate your problem?
Posted: 2003-01-12 03:26pm
by Admiral Valdemar
SWPIGWANG wrote:I actually do lock myself in my room at dorm. (right now actually)
.............too depressed to socialize
Don't. While I can be somewhat of a recluse on the level of Howard Hughes, I have changed dramatically over the first 10 weeks of Uni. My door is often open and invites anyone in my dorm to come in and chat if they're lonely or bored.
I am also making a habit of going on every do I can without hindering my work time.
Whether you like it or not, you
need to socialise in order to get good people and communication skills, getting a 2-1 degree in the end is all well and fine, but it is useless if you have all the team work skills of a rabid coyote.
Don't be shy or afraid others won't accept you, I was amazed at how friendly college and then Uni were after secondary school. You don't have to be a total sociopath or anything, but at least show yourself and interact, one or two boys on my corridor are always locked away and rarely seen and we know squat about them. One said he spent all Saturday night reading physics textbooks while others were out (hell, even me!). They are the best years of yout life so don't throw them away, enjoy them!

Posted: 2003-01-13 09:03am
by SWPIGWANG
jeez, I'm stupid but not THAT stupid......
but when you spend your nights crying....
*feels miserable*
being rejected at every stage of life addes to it. (and being a whiny depressed shinji-esq loser means getting out is....)
Posted: 2003-01-13 10:16am
by Dooey Jo
SWPIGWANG wrote:jeez, I'm stupid but not THAT stupid......
but when you spend your nights crying....
*feels miserable*
being rejected at every stage of life addes to it. (and being a whiny depressed shinji-esq loser means getting out is....)
You serioulsy need to cheer up and make the best out of your situation.
Of course, it depends on how long you have felt this way. If it's just a couple of days, it'll probably pass soon enough. If you've felt this way a couple of years, or maybe your entire life, then I would suggest therapy. Not that I know anything about therapy, but it could be a good idea.
Posted: 2003-01-13 03:19pm
by Pink Eye
Maybe Mr. Wong could create:
StarDestroyer.Net Singles:
Love among the Jawas
But I don't know how many girls are actually on this BBS, so there might not be a point.
Just a useless thought.
Posted: 2003-01-13 04:58pm
by InnerBrat
Pink Eye wrote:Maybe Mr. Wong could create:
StarDestroyer.Net Singles:
Love among the Jawas
But I don't know how many girls are actually on this BBS, so there might not be a point.
Just a useless thought.
Ummm, me, (not single), jmac (not single), Zaia, (single I think,), Kelly no idea), Ewo (no idea)...
Not enough to go around, anyway.
Posted: 2003-01-13 11:19pm
by Darth Yoshi
Kelly's married. Hence the Kitsune title.
Posted: 2003-01-14 08:53am
by InnerBrat
OK, so very few single women.
But an awful lot of gay men.
So if you wanna find love on SDnet, you should like men.
Posted: 2003-01-14 11:13am
by Dooey Jo
Maybe we could make SD.net more girl-friendly (If that's possible without major changes to everything).
Posted: 2003-01-14 02:17pm
by kheegster
SWPIGWANG wrote:I actually do lock myself in my room at dorm. (right now actually)
.............too depressed to socialize
I tend to lock myself in my room when I'm in my dorm too. For some reason my corridor is almost Chinatown....me (Malaysian Chinese), a Singaporean Chinese, a Canadian Chinese, with the rest of them being mostly Hongkies. I generally don't mix much with the Hongkies...although I speak Cantonese, I'm not fluent enough for my wit to show through

. And in case Chinese people are generally too conservative to be easy lays anyway

.
But this is only when I'm in my dorm...outside it I've got a shitload of activities...playing inter-university volleyball, debating society etc...
Posted: 2003-01-14 02:50pm
by aerius
The only times I ever locked myself in my dorm room was before midterms and finals so the crazy chicks couldn't drag me out to party and have sex with me. I do want to pass my classes so I can come back the next year and have more sex and partying, long term plans you see? Other than that I had an open door policy and I pretty much let anyone into my room to chill, talk, have a drink, work on assignments or have sex. I was one of 2 asian guys in my dorm, but you wouldn't know the other guy locked himself in his room and was seen like twice all year.
I was a dork going into university, and I had serious problems socializing and dealing with people as well as having a speech impediment. What I learned was it doesn't matter, as long as you make an effort to talk to people you'll be fine. It's hard to make the first steps sometimes but you just gotta do it. You may feel like the biggest loser on campus, but you're not, and there's a thousand other people there feeling the exact same way. So what I'm saying is, get out there and get to know people, it'll make you feel a lot better.