Tolya wrote:Inspired by God? Yeah, sure. Inspired by ca$h? Definitely:
Akiane: Her Art, Her Poetry, Her Life is available in major book stores or here at the Akiane Gallery. $30.00 each. Includes Shipping and Autograph.
Whole Sale Case of 24: $288.00, includes shipping.
With Autographs $380.00.
Did Jesus charge his followers for his services too? Or is this something entirely new: capitalist christianity?
$92 just for an autograph, eh? Nooooooo, money has NOTHING to do with this at all.
If she were truly inspired by God, the topic of cash wouldnt be even touched on that website. Can you imagine a deity coming down to a child, telling it to paint religious stuff and sell it for cold hard cash? Who the fuck is this God? Quentin Tarantino?
Televangelists. Pat Robertson. Oral Roberts. According to MOST preachers, God (read: the local church) always seems to be broke and in need of donations.
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InvictusChiKen wrote:I have to admit you have a point... Being raised on a diet of fear of hell has given me many nightmares.
Ahhh, Catholicism. I can say what I please about Logic this and Proof that, but deep down inside I know the fact that Father Horgan always scared the living shit out of me had at least a little something to do with my exit.
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Tolya wrote:Inspired by God? Yeah, sure. Inspired by ca$h? Definitely:
Akiane: Her Art, Her Poetry, Her Life is available in major book stores or here at the Akiane Gallery. $30.00 each. Includes Shipping and Autograph.
Whole Sale Case of 24: $288.00, includes shipping.
With Autographs $380.00.
Did Jesus charge his followers for his services too? Or is this something entirely new: capitalist christianity?
$92 just for an autograph, eh? Nooooooo, money has NOTHING to do with this at all.
Look again. It's $3.83 for an autograph. 24 books for $288, 24 autographed books for an extra $92.
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InvictusChiKen wrote:I have to admit you have a point... Being raised on a diet of fear of hell has given me many nightmares.
Ahhh, Catholicism. I can say what I please about Logic this and Proof that, but deep down inside I know the fact that Father Horgan always scared the living shit out of me had at least a little something to do with my exit.
Actually I was raised "Non-denominational" I have seen decided to join the Catholic Church just recently.
InvictusChiKen wrote:I have to admit you have a point... Being raised on a diet of fear of hell has given me many nightmares.
Ahhh, Catholicism. I can say what I please about Logic this and Proof that, but deep down inside I know the fact that Father Horgan always scared the living shit out of me had at least a little something to do with my exit.
From what I've heard, the Nazarenes are pretty obsessed with talking (actually yelling) about eternal damnation too, as are a few other groups.
"everytime a person is born the Earth weighs just a little more."--DMJ on StarTrek.com
"You see now you are using your thinking and that is not a good thing!" DMJay on StarTrek.com
"Watching Sarli argue with Vympel, Stas, Schatten and the others is as bizarre as the idea of the 40-year-old Virgin telling Hugh Hefner that Hef knows nothing about pussy, and that he is the expert."--Elfdart
Right now how much are you selling your paintings for?
Between $50,000 to $1,000,000. We donate a portion to different charities. My goal is to help many poor children around the world.
My company, Artakiane.LLC also sells limited edition canvas geclees-- reproductions of my work. They cost about $2000. I go every week to the printing house to proof the prints and make sure they match my originals.
Now this is something I'm morally opposed to. The child's being forced to grow up too fast. Give her a chance to breathe.
Oh, and professional training would be good too. I don't think God can offer that.
Wretchosoft wrote:
Now this is something I'm morally opposed to. The child's being forced to grow up too fast. Give her a chance to breathe.
Oh, and professional training would be good too. I don't think God can offer that.
On the other hand, if she were an adult her 'paintings' wouldn't be meriting any attention whatsoever and she'd be lucky to fetch $200, let alone $2000. Once she does grow up eventually that wellspring of cash is going to dry up.
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Wretchosoft wrote:
Now this is something I'm morally opposed to. The child's being forced to grow up too fast. Give her a chance to breathe.
Oh, and professional training would be good too. I don't think God can offer that.
On the other hand, if she were an adult her 'paintings' wouldn't be meriting any attention whatsoever and she'd be lucky to fetch $200, let alone $2000. Once she does grow up eventually that wellspring of cash is going to dry up.
How much do you want to bet that when she's grown up...that cash has already been spent, by her and/or her parents, and there's been no savings/nest egg developed for college or her future?
I mean, I don't want to be cynical, but this reeks horribly of a scam, and scammers generally aren't trying to build for their children's future, from what I've seen.
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Wretchosoft wrote:
Now this is something I'm morally opposed to. The child's being forced to grow up too fast. Give her a chance to breathe.
Oh, and professional training would be good too. I don't think God can offer that.
On the other hand, if she were an adult her 'paintings' wouldn't be meriting any attention whatsoever and she'd be lucky to fetch $200, let alone $2000. Once she does grow up eventually that wellspring of cash is going to dry up.
How much do you want to bet that when she's grown up...that cash has already been spent, by her and/or her parents, and there's been no savings/nest egg developed for college or her future?
I mean, I don't want to be cynical, but this reeks horribly of a scam, and scammers generally aren't trying to build for their children's future, from what I've seen.
I believe it. It's sad, and that's why I was basically calling this child abuse. They're using their daughter to make money. Even if her amazing skills are worth paying for, it's not worth lying about to drum up interest, putting up this false front for her, just to make some cash. It's risky to her longterm mental health and they shouldn't be giving this money away as much as making sure she's set for her future. If she makes 500K from this or something ridiculous like that, they should definately set enough away to pay for college, real art training, and enough savings to make a lot of those little problems go away. And that money should be locked away in a no-withdrawl account, or with a limit.
Oni Koneko Damien wrote:How much do you want to bet that when she's grown up...that cash has already been spent, by her and/or her parents, and there's been no savings/nest egg developed for college or her future?
I mean, I don't want to be cynical, but this reeks horribly of a scam, and scammers generally aren't trying to build for their children's future, from what I've seen.
You don't understand the mind of a fundy. They have this saying, "God will provide" and they stick to it no matter how many times they shoot themselves in the foot.
"everytime a person is born the Earth weighs just a little more."--DMJ on StarTrek.com
"You see now you are using your thinking and that is not a good thing!" DMJay on StarTrek.com
"Watching Sarli argue with Vympel, Stas, Schatten and the others is as bizarre as the idea of the 40-year-old Virgin telling Hugh Hefner that Hef knows nothing about pussy, and that he is the expert."--Elfdart
I first caught this painter on Oprah (I was in the room while it was on TV for reasons entirely unrelated to watching Oprah. *cough*), and also saw it discussed on Something Awful.
Three things strike me about her technique:
1) The size of her typical canvas. Seem to be in the 4 to 6-foot range of dimensions from what I can tell on the site and recall of the door-sized paintings brought on Oprah. "The Prince of Peace" for example is a portrait on a canvas taller than herself, containing a ~3' head. Just to compare this to other portraits, (yeah I know, she's only 12, but still a self-promoted prodigy), the Mona Lisa is 20" x 30".
2) She always works from reference; always has photographic reference, uses "many sketches" for a painting, lays out grids, etc.
3) "-Rises at 4 a.m. five-six days a week to get ready to paint in the studio and write; works for about 4-5 hours each day.
-Often works over a hundred to two hundred hours on a painting, producing 8 to 20 paintings a year."
Isn't that a lot for each of her paintings? She's a talented painter, especially for a kid, but when you've essentially been drafting 20sqft images as a 25 hours a week for eight years, your base talent isn't the big factor in the results.
Utsanomiko wrote:Isn't that a lot for each of her paintings? She's a talented painter, especially for a kid, but when you've essentially been drafting 20sqft images as a 25 hours a week for eight years, your base talent isn't the big factor in the results.
The large size lets you turn each small detail into something larger, and easier to paint, so yeah, that's a lot--especially for that timeframe. It's not like she's done anything that's good art any more than it is simply good manual printing using paints. I'd like to see some original composition with subject matter that can't be mapped out.
