StarDestroyer.Net BBS

There are a lot of new avatars, and it will take me a while to get used to the bigger size, but it's all good. I just might try to find a new one to take advantage of the new size limits. Now I won't have to shrink it to the point where all the detail is lost.

At last! I can make a larger BM-Phantom!

Long live General Obi-Wan Kenobi!!!

Defiant wrote:Long live General Obi-Wan Kenobi!!!

He is really stretched, looks like a stick man Obi.

Ted wrote:

Defiant wrote:Long live General Obi-Wan Kenobi!!!

He is really stretched, looks like a stick man Obi.

Fixed the image. Thanks for the tip.

I can't make this image 100x100 while being less than 6 kb.



Any suggestions? Even the lowest quality jpeg I make of it is still more than 6 kb.

Robert Treder wrote:I can't make this image 100x100 while being less than 6 kb.



Any suggestions? Even the lowest quality jpeg I make of it is still more than 6 kb.

Actually, I found that it should fit very easily as a 100x100 JPEG. With progressive encoding and the default compression value of 15, it was a mere 4,689 bytes, and at a compression value of 9 it was 5,896 bytes. This is a bit confusing to me, maybe you're not reducing the size correctly? The source image you posted is 120x120.



Reduced to 100x100, then reduced the palette down to 136 colors via Optimized Octree, with dithering set to zero. End result is 5,945 bytes.

In general, I found that using PNG format seems more efficent than GIF. For reducing colors, Optimized Octree seems to work better than Optimized Median Cut for a limited file size, although the latter works better when colors instead of bytes are limited. The amount of colors reduced tends to vary from image to image, but 127 seems to be a middling number. Setting the dithering lower reduces file size further, although how it affects the quality of the final result depends. Lowered dithering seems to work better for cel-style images.

If you use JPEG instead, progressive encoding seems to work better and you can fiddle around with the compression ratios.

Thanks, Stan. Yeah, I fiddled around with it some more, and I was able to get it down acceptably. And PNG does work well; I hadn't thought of that.

Robert Treder wrote:Thanks, Stan. Yeah, I fiddled around with it some more, and I was able to get it down acceptably. And PNG does work well; I hadn't thought of that.

Yeah, but does M$ support PNG?

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:

Robert Treder wrote:Thanks, Stan. Yeah, I fiddled around with it some more, and I was able to get it down acceptably. And PNG does work well; I hadn't thought of that.

Yeah, but does M$ support PNG?

Fuck yeah. Most high-end programs and newer web browsers do.

Dalton wrote:

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:

Robert Treder wrote:Thanks, Stan. Yeah, I fiddled around with it some more, and I was able to get it down acceptably. And PNG does work well; I hadn't thought of that.

Yeah, but does M$ support PNG?

Fuck yeah. Most high-end programs and newer web browsers do.

W00t! About time. I heard IE doesn't like PNGs.

Remember to reduce color depth too.

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:

Dalton wrote:

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:Yeah, but does M$ support PNG?

Fuck yeah. Most high-end programs and newer web browsers do.

W00t! About time. I heard IE doesn't like PNGs.

Ohhh, IE? I'm not really surprised. I don't think Microsoft would add support for new formats when it can invent a few proprietary formats of its own for their personal use.

I'm suprised that I didn't post here yet. I got a new sig pic instead of a avater cause I couldn't find anyone I liked that looked good scaled up.

Dalton wrote:

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:

Dalton wrote:Fuck yeah. Most high-end programs and newer web browsers do.

W00t! About time. I heard IE doesn't like PNGs.

Ohhh, IE? I'm not really surprised. I don't think Microsoft would add support for new formats when it can invent a few proprietary formats of its own for their personal use.

And the fucktards wonder why I use Mozilla too...

Dalton wrote:

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:

Dalton wrote:Fuck yeah. Most high-end programs and newer web browsers do.

W00t! About time. I heard IE doesn't like PNGs.

Ohhh, IE? I'm not really surprised. I don't think Microsoft would add support for new formats when it can invent a few proprietary formats of its own for their personal use.

Is that a Double Post I spy?

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:Is that a Double Post I spy?

How the hell did that happen?

Here's my new 100x100 Konstantin!

<<-- Hello Mr. Baggins...

My new Geara Doga.

Thank you, Mark Simmons.