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How much to purchase a communications stratellite and who would Miratia buy them from?

Posted a general Shinra reaction to CATO: taken by surprise, certainly, but we're willing to roll with it.

Also came up with a little reason for the whole Byzantine double alliance thing. Now you know at least one reason why we let it go for the most part.

Wee. Alaska's first major military export order!

SiegeTank wrote:Okay, so here's the shopping list for the budding North Frequesuan Coast Guard:

8x Legend class deepwater cutter (WILKONIA)
Role: C&C/Sustained Presence Ships

Let me know the delivery schedule you are looking for. There are a couple options, everything from taking delivery of existing Wilkonian Maritime Security Service vessels (which would drop the price obviously for taking used goods) when they go in for their next major refit cycle or we can start them as new hulls. The shipyards which handle WMSS vessels aren't nearly as busy as the main Naval shipyards churning out the STAR project but a new hull obviously takes a bit of time. I would estimate first delivery in the former case within 6 months and final delivery at roughly the 3 year mark, in the later case first delivery would be 2.5 year mark and final delivery at roughly the 5 year mark.

I will be unable to post throughout the next week. Sorry.

Things that you can assume happened:

1) FASTA automated moon lander crashes during the final phase of the mission

2) PeZookia continues to fight budget deficit, succeeds in balancing the budget (barely)

3) New (and final) Yer Moms laid down

4) Soyuz 7 flies

5) Soyuz space fighter flies, shoots up dead satellite

I will continue the new slavery storyline after I return

Ryan Thunder wrote:How much to purchase a communications stratellite and who would Miratia buy them from?

They cost a few dozen million and you'd buy them from Shroomania.

Don't bother with the specific number. Just say "CA-CHING!" and we can say the deal's been done.

(Technically Frequesue's already got a lot of commercial telecommunications stratellites as part of FreCom. But then you'd be getting your TV from the Vinish and San Doradoans, and I don't think their tele-trash is any better than Shroomanian crap.)


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Talk about synchronicity!

CmdrWilkens wrote:Let me know the delivery schedule you are looking for. There are a couple options, everything from taking delivery of existing Wilkonian Maritime Security Service vessels (which would drop the price obviously for taking used goods) when they go in for their next major refit cycle or we can start them as new hulls.

Hmm, we'll take new ships. More expensive to be sure, but the longer hull life will compensate for it. Plus it'll take at least a year or two to set up the organization and train the requisite crew, so if you can deliver the first ships in two and a half that'd be excellent.

PeZook wrote:Though, perhaps, they could house lasers and S-500 SAMs?

I don't know, maybe. Fingolfin is more knowledgeable with these things, perhaps he knows? It would be awesome, if it was possible.

I will continue the new slavery storyline after I return

You better hurry back, I'm rather enjoying that story.

P.S. Shroom, I remember you selling me some stratellites a couple of years ago, those were mostly civilian versions or were there some military ones too? I can't remember.

Mixed bunch, including some for the Ministry of Truth. Truthstrats indoctrinate your populace with the glories of communism!

SiegeTank wrote:

CmdrWilkens wrote:Let me know the delivery schedule you are looking for. There are a couple options, everything from taking delivery of existing Wilkonian Maritime Security Service vessels (which would drop the price obviously for taking used goods) when they go in for their next major refit cycle or we can start them as new hulls.

Hmm, we'll take new ships. More expensive to be sure, but the longer hull life will compensate for it. Plus it'll take at least a year or two to set up the organization and train the requisite crew, so if you can deliver the first ships in two and a half that'd be excellent.

Righteo. I'll consider the order as having been placed tail end of Q4 2013 so first delivery will be end of Q1 2016 (roughly week of April 20th-24th). This will be delivery in operational condition complete with sea trials and fit out.

DarthShady wrote:I don't know, maybe. Fingolfin is more knowledgeable with these things, perhaps he knows? It would be awesome, if it was possible.

Man.. I hardly know if these things can carry a nuclear reactor, because if you are going to start running these things like a christmas tree, you are going to draw a lot of power.

Lasers, nuke reactors and shit are heavy. Strats can't carry em unless they're like totally HUEG and impossibly big and shit.

They COULD carry mirrors to reflect lasers!

Shroom Man 777 wrote:Lasers, nuke reactors and shit are heavy. Strats can't carry em unless they're like totally HUEG and impossibly big and shit.

They COULD carry mirrors to reflect lasers!

Heh... I have no idea if Coyote's own super blimps will work as claimed. For it to work, you have to it very large compared to the weight it has to carry.... Archimede's law apply after all.

If Coyote's can carry tanks, then I guess we can also have blimps that can carry tanks. Except if we ditch those treads and chassises, and wield the tank turrets on the hull...

We will have SKY-GALLEONS!

Shroom Man 777 wrote:If Coyote's can carry tanks, then I guess we can also have blimps that can carry tanks. Except if we ditch those treads and chassises, and wield the tank turrets on the hull...

We will have SKY-GALLEONS!

Yeah I read of that. Which implies that the nuke powered stratellites with huge AESA radars should be fine as hell.

So in that case, we can load up defensive weapons on it without any problems.

Oh yeah... the GRAVITY IS LESSER!

Time to put drillbits on my flying submarines and have Joseph Stalin pilot it against Godzilla and other giant monster kaijus.

Operation Final War

PeZook wrote:Though, perhaps, they could house lasers and S-500 SAMs?

Can't be much worse than my Super-heavy Air Defender idea...

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:

Shroom Man 777 wrote:If Coyote's can carry tanks, then I guess we can also have blimps that can carry tanks. Except if we ditch those treads and chassises, and wield the tank turrets on the hull...

We will have SKY-GALLEONS!

Yeah I read of that. Which implies that the nuke powered stratellites with huge AESA radars should be fine as hell.

So in that case, we can load up defensive weapons on it without any problems.

Stratellites with AESA Radar and S-500's, this seems like a workable project. Should we go for it? Or perhaps we could simply put radar on the stratellites, if the other stuff is to heavy.

Actually, hang on. Wouldn't a blimp have an epic heug radar signiature that would make it utterly trivial to locate and either avoid or missile it before it could do anything in return?

Ryan Thunder wrote:Actually, hang on. Wouldn't a blimp have an epic heug radar signiature that would make it utterly trivial to locate and either avoid or missile it before it could do anything in return?

The same could be said of any radar satellite or just about any AEW&C aircraft.

We could coat it with RAM to reduce the signature but it will only do so much.

I figure it's time to push this meeting ahead. If there is nothing left to discuss, then it's time for a party and a toast to our Shroomanian comrades.

Besides there is that other thing that needs to be done after the meeting.

The statellites already have the radars. If real-life AEW&C aircraft can't carry missiles and stuff, I doubt strats that have to be light enough to float in the stratosphere can either.

Link them to surface-based systems, or sea-based systems. Or link them to special aeroplatforms with weapons systems.

Or space-based defense systems.

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:

Ryan Thunder wrote:Actually, hang on. Wouldn't a blimp have an epic heug radar signiature that would make it utterly trivial to locate and either avoid or missile it before it could do anything in return?

The same could be said of any radar satellite or just about any AEW&C aircraft.

Well, yes, but that's the problem. If its going to be your AAA, wouldn't you rather it be difficult to locate?

Ryan Thunder wrote:Well, yes, but that's the problem. If its going to be your AAA, wouldn't you rather it be difficult to locate?

The S-500 is mostly for self-defence really, though it can be used for other things.

Man. Whenever Shady uses that picture of comrade Cherdenko I expect him to say something like "I shall go to the one place capitalism has not yet tainted... SPACE!"

And now all this talk of armed zeppelins has me thinking... Ryan, didn't you build some fancy helicopters? You don't happen to have a cryo-ray laying about do you?