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Posted: 2003-03-01 09:25pm
by HemlockGrey
Um, Shep, wouldn't that cause whatever neighborhood the car bomber was in to be leveled?

And I know you wouldn't care, so what if it was your neighborhood? I know I'd be upset if one went off in my backyard.

Posted: 2003-03-01 09:25pm
by Einhander Sn0m4n
MKSheppard wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote: They would also want a real wall instead of a fence, with a blast deflecting berm behind it .
Here's a simpler idea:

Place a radio transmitter on the WH grounds, transmitting random signals
on random frequencies keyed to FM....

Sure it would play hell with reception on car stereos, but it would send any
car bombers to hell 3 blocks away from the WH when the radio-controlled
detonator on their bomb goes off (yep, they do that to keep the suicide
bombers honest, hee hee)
W00t!

P.S. Why the FRELL is your Avatar Bill Clinton?! Did a Mod hack your account? LOL

Posted: 2003-03-01 09:27pm
by MKSheppard
HemlockGrey wrote:Um, Shep, wouldn't that cause whatever neighborhood the car bomber was in to be leveled?

And I know you wouldn't care, so what if it was your neighborhood? I know I'd be upset if one went off in my backyard.
It's either letting him reach his target, or him going off accidentially...

Either way he's gonna kill lots of people....might as well have him strike
out..

Posted: 2003-03-01 09:27pm
by Sea Skimmer
MKSheppard wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote: They would also want a real wall instead of a fence, with a blast deflecting berm behind it .
Here's a simpler idea:

Place a radio transmitter on the WH grounds, transmitting random signals
on random frequencies keyed to FM....

Sure it would play hell with reception on car stereos, but it would send any
car bombers to hell 3 blocks away from the WH when the radio-controlled
detonator on their bomb goes off (yep, they do that to keep the suicide
bombers honest, hee hee)
You can shield against such inference. And anyone with the technical ability to wire up a large bomb could devise protection. A faraday cage isn't that hard to build. However the double bomb method pretty much requires suicide attackers for it to work anyway.

Posted: 2003-03-01 09:30pm
by MKSheppard
Sea Skimmer wrote:However the double bomb method pretty much requires suicide attackers for it to work anyway.
The only way you can pull a bomb attack off on the WH is thru suicide
attackers. Having the car stop and someone run out of it like a bat out
of hell is going to trigger an alert.....

Posted: 2003-03-01 09:33pm
by MKSheppard
Sea Skimmer wrote: You can shield against such inference. And anyone with the technical ability to wire up a large bomb could devise protection. A faraday cage isn't that hard to build.
True true...however, it would be stupid to throw this idea on the
trash can...and you can't shield against interference if it has a
RADIO CONTROL BACKUP to the main detonator in the truck.
Radio waves have to be able to get thru if the backup is radio
controlled.

It would be veeeery embarassing for the Mad Mullah if their mad
bomber decided NOT to go to allah :twisted:

Posted: 2003-03-01 09:36pm
by Sea Skimmer
MKSheppard wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:However the double bomb method pretty much requires suicide attackers for it to work anyway.
The only way you can pull a bomb attack off on the WH is thru suicide
attackers. Having the car stop and someone run out of it like a bat out
of hell is going to trigger an alert.....

That why you act quickly. The first bomb kills the swarming security and blast through any barriers, while hopefully not making too much of a crater. Then you have your second truck drive through and ram the Whitehouse beyond. Your odds of escaping when a 1000 or so pound bomb goes off behind you, and the only exit is filled with burning debris and flying bullets are quite low though.

As I said, you need people committed to a suicide attack or very stupid but reliable people who wont realize that it is one.

Posted: 2003-03-01 09:38pm
by MKSheppard
Sea Skimmer wrote: As I said, you need people committed to a suicide attack or very stupid but reliable people who wont realize that it is one.
That brings up another point...I wonder how many of the hijackers on 9/11
actually knew it was a suicide run?

Posted: 2003-03-01 09:42pm
by Sea Skimmer
MKSheppard wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote: As I said, you need people committed to a suicide attack or very stupid but reliable people who wont realize that it is one.
That brings up another point...I wonder how many of the hijackers on 9/11
actually knew it was a suicide run?
Its been said that at least a few didn't. But I have no idea what that's based on. Probably a third hand leak from the guy who gets coffee for a guy who's the best friend of an FBI agent who was a guard in the hallway while a suspect was being interrogated.

Posted: 2003-03-02 10:32am
by haas mark
Interesting how this thread has digresed... [makes notes in imaginary psychology notebook]