Doctor Who "Vampires of Venice" (Spoilers)

[GuppyShark]

So, is there a BBC-mandated minority quota or are there actually historical examples of Africans working in the Venetian Armory as shipbuilders?

The presence of black people in 16th century Venice has been adequately explained enough in this thread already and the unmourned Robin Hood was much more guilty of patronizing, unrealistic tokenism.

I was going to get in a huff about you jumping on after other people have done the work and posting that stupid 'image macro', especially as when you started on this board I was one of the people actually discussing your ideas...

... then I saw this on your imageshack

http://yfrog.com/2dnaughtybabyj

and was like, naah I can't be mad anymore.

[mr friendly guy]

Is anyone else starting to wander why a lot of the non human races seem to recognise what a Time Lord is and know of the Doctor to boot while the human transgalactic empires of the future don't, aside from River Song of course? I thought the TL were in general insular and isolated race. I can take the Sontorans knowing about them, since they were aware in the classic series. The Forest of Cheem were stated to be one of the "higher species" so were aware of the time war even as lesser species weren't. But we also get prisoner zero and now these fish fake vampires thingies. Are all of these new aliens "higher species" as well.

What would be a nice change of pace is to have someone say "Time Lords, never heard of them." Or how about "They are myth. Whats next you will also claim to be <insert what deity / supernatural being> next?

[Eternal_Freedom]

That's true. But then again, Prisoner Zero and his captors where capable of time travel, and IIRC the fish vampires at least new of what was going on, so it makes sense that they recognise him

I think "higher species" in Doctor Who means "capable of time travel" or "aware of changes in timeline," which explains why the future transgalactic empires of humans arent quite so readily aware of him. Maybe they know of the Doctor but don't know he regenerates, like Clive in "Rose"

And we have seen people completely ignorant of Time Lords before, in Utopia

"Time Lord, last of. Heard of them? No? Not even amyth or a legend?"

Admittely they are 100 trilion years AD, so it's understandable

[Big Orange]

Spoiler

Nick Briggs is among other things, also the voice of the cybermen, designer of the voice effects for both and an extremely talented writer. Unless his role is credited as one thing or another (though obviously not primary writer, he could have a writing credit conceivably, so I mention it) He has played many aliens in Who, and could do many more. The cybusman, if it speaks, will probably be Nick Briggs, unless it's got its emotions back as per 'It's unlucky for him to see me before the night of the wedding' so - I wouldn't worry yet.

Spoiler

Briggs played a minor human villain in Torchwood's "Children of Earth" (bald guy in conference scene) and voiced the Judoon as well. I see a "Cybus" Cyberman in one trailer lurching towards Amy Pond, most probably a survivor from "The Next Doctor", demonstrating that the Cyberking was not erased by the Crack per se, but that the collective memory of it was (like the Daleks stealing and occupying Earth for roughly 24 hours was). Either way it seems like Moffat's season finale is not going to feature the Daleks or/and Cybermen as the primary antagonists, they're going to be sideshows to the mysterious Pandorica. I get the feeling the production crew are going to overhaul the new Daleks by next year and may upgrade the Cybermen soon, evolving past their bulky first stage.

No. That would be a pretty bizarre thing for an Australian who doesn't watch British TV to claim. But you know, take it personally.

Hmmmmm...

'That answers my question.'

Fair enough.

... then I saw this on your imageshack

http://yfrog.com/2dnaughtybabyj

and was like, naah I can't be mad anymore.

Those bizarre pet images were posted in a cute animal thread on another forum I frequent. Just to clear things up.

[Eternal_Freedom]

Evolving Cybermen? Non-bulky ones?

Does that mean we're gonna get Iron Man style armour suits?

[Temujin]

A two for being so boring I could barely pay attention.

Seemed like a stereotypical filler episode; and I've seen better ones of those from nuWho.