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Could be fusion.Batman wrote:Err-no, fission it is
There isn't one? I didn't say there was?and as we've known since the Romulans made their debut in TOS that Warp doesn't require M/AM I completely fail to see the problem with that?
No it couldn't given their alleged fuel source is a nuclear warhead which means fissionables which are kinda useless for a fusion plant.Prometheus Unbound wrote:Could be fusion.Batman wrote:Err-no, fission it is
Some people in this thread seem to feel they have to shoehorn M/AM into the Phoenix's workings somehow when the bleeping original series says you don't even need it for everyday use Warp drive, leave alone what may very well have been a one-shot prototype. I'm sorry if that came across as if it were directed at you.There isn't one? I didn't say there was?and as we've known since the Romulans made their debut in TOS that Warp doesn't require M/AM I completely fail to see the problem with that?
what?
Plus, that runs into the same problem as antimatter. Would the tech base of the world in 2063 after WW3 be high enough to support a self-sustaining fusion reactor small enough to fit in an ICBM?No it couldn't given their alleged fuel source is a nuclear warhead which means fissionables which are kinda useless for a fusion plant.
"And yet the first ships to colonize the solar system were nuclear-powered."Lord MJ wrote:I seem to recall Arik Soong mentioning that the first starships were "Nuclear Powered" or some such.
I don't remember the exact quote. But seems to me definitive that the Phoenix did not have anti-matter.
Most likely sublight. Most space probes that head for the outer solar system use nuclear batteries because the sunlight's too weak for photovoltaics that far out.Prometheus Unbound wrote:"And yet the first ships to colonize the solar system were nuclear-powered."Lord MJ wrote:I seem to recall Arik Soong mentioning that the first starships were "Nuclear Powered" or some such.
I don't remember the exact quote. But seems to me definitive that the Phoenix did not have anti-matter.
That could well be sub-light since it's within our solar system.
I agree with you, but I'm not sure that quote would prove anything either way, unfortunately.
The key words are "most" and "few". Cochrane could reasonably believe that the few governments left could buy the design, or even one of the industries in the few cities left. (Not to argue he was right; if he had been wrong, he would have become bankrupt absent the arrival of the Vulcans.)Eternal_Freedom wrote:That's pretty much what I suspected. This came about because I watched Apollo 13 again tonight and it got me thinking. I was wondering if there was any definite answer. Of course, that begs the question of how he planned to make another flight, where he'd get another Titan-V (I think that's what it was supposed to be, it's actually a training version of a Titan-II) or equivalent launcher. Granted he'd need a smaller rocket if he's only launching his command module but still.
That brings me to another question. Who exactly was he hoping to sell the design to? Most people seemed concerned solely with survival at this point, since "most of the major cities have been destroyed, very few governments left." Strikes me as a mighty strange idea to try to market in such a world.