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phongn wrote:Silly tourists. And yes, the rain sucks: maximum speed on I275 yesterday was limited to 50 MPH because of the sheer amount of rain.

Yeah, that storm just plain sucked... I could've sworn there was hail, too, but I'm not sure.

Still, funny to see tourists come down and complain about the rain and storms. As if they hadn't bothered to read up on Tampa and discover it's the lightning capital of the world (though that mostly applies to people who whine when Busch Gardens rides get shut down for a bit)...

It isn't just Americans, either.

phongn wrote:

Iceberg wrote:It's easy to feel contempt not just for foreign tourists but American tourists as well when you're a Midwesterner - most people seem to think there's a U-shaped void in the country where the Midwest should be, with two tiny pockets of America - Chicago and the Mall of America (it's funny to watch furriners - and by that I mean non-Minnesotans - struggle to navigate the Twin Cities) in the middle.

You'd be surprised the number of people who don't expect to find a modern metropolis of 2.8 million people (over half of Minnesota's population of 5 million lives in the Twin Cities) in the middle of what they thought was nothing but farmland and wilderness.

Bah. Greater Twin Cities is an exception! The Midwest is nothing but corn, grain, snow & iron everywhere else!

Minnesota's revenge is carefully crafting a major metropolitan area (Minneapolis-St. Paul is the 15th largest in the country) with roads so byzantine and confusing that it's IMPOSSIBLE to navigate if you're not a native.

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Lord Poe wrote:http://h4h.com/louis/war1.gif

Off-topic mudslinging in cartoon form, eh? Who does that remind me of ... oh yeah, Jack Chick.

RogueIce wrote:

phongn wrote:Silly tourists. And yes, the rain sucks: maximum speed on I275 yesterday was limited to 50 MPH because of the sheer amount of rain.

Yeah, that storm just plain sucked... I could've sworn there was hail, too, but I'm not sure.

Probably not around the Fowler->Junction segment of I275, where most of the rain was when I was going home.

Still, funny to see tourists come down and complain about the rain and storms. As if they hadn't bothered to read up on Tampa and discover it's the lightning capital of the world (though that mostly applies to people who whine when Busch Gardens rides get shut down for a bit)...

It isn't just Americans, either.

Last year I was driving home on the Causeway when a massive storm came out of nowhere, now that sucked. Traffic immediately slowed to about 30-40 MPH and visibility was nonexistant, the road swamped with water and wind making it difficult to steer.

And yeah, come rainy season it'll rain every night, just most people don't know that. Nothing unusual for us here

Iceberg wrote:Minnesota's revenge is carefully crafting a major metropolitan area (Minneapolis-St. Paul is the 15th largest in the country) with roads so byzantine and confusing that it's IMPOSSIBLE to navigate if you're not a native.

Yeah, the twin cities area is stupidly confusing. I remember when I went to my uncle's house from Plymouth to Oakdale (Minneapolis to St. Paul, more or less) and it was massively confusing to my young mind (go through tunnels, overpasses, underpasses...)

As for the county I live in, people who live North or South county tend to get confused if they go to the opposite end. The south part has neatly ordered streets that are numbered; the north has major arterial roads that are usually referenced by their names [which change depending where you are on the road], not number.

Thus, south county people find it impossible to navigate in the north, and the north county people find it difficult to navigate in the south.

jegs2 wrote: Grrrrrrrrrrrrr, get a rope, boys.

Don't forget the branding irons.

phongn wrote:As for the county I live in, people who live North or South county tend to get confused if they go to the opposite end. The south part has neatly ordered streets that are numbered; the north has major arterial roads that are usually referenced by their names [which change depending where you are on the road], not number.

Thus, south county people find it impossible to navigate in the north, and the north county people find it difficult to navigate in the south.

You mean like Gunn Highway, aka Busch Blvd, aka Bullard, aka Temple Terrace Highway, aka...?

Ah, gotta love Hillsborough...

Never been to the southern part though...maybe I should try it.

Darth Wong wrote:Off-topic mudslinging in cartoon form, eh? Who does that remind me of ... oh yeah, Jack Chick.

That's hilarious...on SO many levels! I prefer Michael Ramirez myself, BTW.

RogueIce wrote:

phongn wrote:As for the county I live in, people who live North or South county tend to get confused if they go to the opposite end. The south part has neatly ordered streets that are numbered; the north has major arterial roads that are usually referenced by their names [which change depending where you are on the road], not number.

Thus, south county people find it impossible to navigate in the north, and the north county people find it difficult to navigate in the south.

You mean like Gunn Highway, aka Busch Blvd, aka Bullard, aka Temple Terrace Highway, aka...?

Ah, gotta love Hillsborough...

Never been to the southern part though...maybe I should try it.

I was actually referring to Pinellas County. CR1 changes names numerous times. Ulmerton Road and Roosevelt Boulevard also merge and seperate at one point, confusing many non-local drivers.

Bah!

Orlando area > Tampa area!

Steve wrote:Bah!

Orlando area > Tampa area!

Beaches, Busch Gardens > Orlando

Lord Poe wrote:

Darth Wong wrote:Off-topic mudslinging in cartoon form, eh? Who does that remind me of ... oh yeah, Jack Chick.

That's hilarious...on SO many levels! I prefer Michael Ramirez myself, BTW.

You work pretty hard to pretend that you're just "taking the piss" (to use Edam's terminology) and not taking any of this seriously. I would try to figure out what that means from a psychological standpoint but I'm too lazy.

Wait, wait, wait.... There are people outside of America!?!?!?!?!??

Sorry, just had to.

phongn wrote:I was actually referring to Pinellas County. CR1 changes names numerous times. Ulmerton Road and Roosevelt Boulevard also merge and seperate at one point, confusing many non-local drivers.

Figures, out of essentially a fifty-fifty chance (sure, I've seen other counties mentioned with Tampa Bay, but c'mon, you know it's just Hillsborough and Pinellas) I'd pick the wrong one.

But it's still the same over here, at least in this nothern part of the county.

Steve wrote:Bah!

Orlando area > Tampa area!

Bah to you! We've got much better nightlife than that silly "City Walk" (hellooo Ybor! )

That and the beaches.

And I'll take Busch Gardens over that loser Animal Kingdom ANY day!

Phil Skayhan wrote:snip

Perhaps the thread should have been "Stupid fucking tourists". I'm sure many of us could cite less than stellar behavior of visitors from a multitude of countries. Four men from New Zealand who were banned from almost every bar in my area springs to mind. Good group of guys, just didn't believe they weren't having fun until one of them was passed out on the bar.

Erm, well, uhhh. We do like to put it down sometimes..
What exactly were they doinf to get banned from a bunch of bars?

Kelly Antilles wrote: Gentlemen, you must remember:

Ando is extremely anti-American. He hates everything about America, or at least it comes out that way.

I would say that he is anti American policy, not anti-American, of course thats from reading his posts.

Stuart Mackey wrote:I would say that he is anti American policy, not anti-American, of course thats from reading his posts.

Well, you could certainly construe anti-American from this post: has little or nothing to do with US policy, the whole central theme is the stupidity of Americans (notice how in both stories he says "not an isolated incident" and say that it's "uniformly Americans" ie: always Americans, without variation), not to mention the whole title saying "Stupid fucking Americans..." (boldtext mine) in the first place...

RogueIce wrote:

Stuart Mackey wrote:I would say that he is anti American policy, not anti-American, of course thats from reading his posts.

Well, you could certainly construe anti-American from this post: has little or nothing to do with US policy, the whole central theme is the stupidity of Americans (notice how in both stories he says "not an isolated incident" and say that it's "uniformly Americans" ie: always Americans, without variation), not to mention the whole title saying "Stupid fucking Americans..." (boldtext mine) in the first place...

I was not referring to this post in paticular, I was referring to Kelly's post about Ando's overall attitude to America.
This thread did seem a bit overboard in its stereotyping, to me these people in question seem uneducated and provincial but not stupid, but you get people like that in all nations.

Stuart Mackey wrote:I was not referring to this post in paticular, I was referring to Kelly's post about Ando's overall attitude to America.
This thread did seem a bit overboard in its stereotyping, to me these people in question seem uneducated and provincial but not stupid, but you get people like that in all nations.

Just a "bit" overboard...

Ah well, I see your point. I thought she was referring to this particular thread, but I guess thinking back to some others, I see where you're coming from.

RogueIce wrote:

Stuart Mackey wrote:I was not referring to this post in paticular, I was referring to Kelly's post about Ando's overall attitude to America.
This thread did seem a bit overboard in its stereotyping, to me these people in question seem uneducated and provincial but not stupid, but you get people like that in all nations.

Just a "bit" overboard...

snip.

There is a bit of trivia us Kiwi's tend to understate things, a bit overboard is saying it was gross and unessary ...

it was, however, amusing

Ok, maybe the title was a little over the top, but damn - I have to put up with this kind of stuff on a daily basis, and like I said its uniformly Americans. The Canadians, Europeans, Asians and Africans don't seem to suffer from the same problem. Only those from the good 'ole US of A.

And for the record the Texan guy was a probably a Grand Kleegle of the Klan back in the day. He looked about mid 60's wearing a shitty hawaiin shirt and being an arrogant fucker.

weemadando wrote:Ok, maybe the title was a little over the top, but damn - I have to put up with this kind of stuff on a daily basis, and like I said its uniformly Americans. The Canadians, Europeans, Asians and Africans don't seem to suffer from the same problem. Only those from the good 'ole US of A.

And for the record the Texan guy was a probably a Grand Kleegle of the Klan back in the day. He looked about mid 60's wearing a shitty hawaiin shirt and being an arrogant fucker.

As I say, I put it down to some Americans being uneducated, about the world, and provincial. I should also say that I have also met well educated Ameicans in NZ. The unducated types do, unfortunatly, seem to account for a lot of tourists, or so it seems.

Col. Crackpot wrote:
hmm, well i supposed we didn't need Georgia, Alabama, West Virginia and Mississippi anyway.

Nice how dumbasses lay claim that they are actually SMARTER than I am. Nice work Col. Dumbass.

weemadando wrote:Ok, maybe the title was a little over the top, but damn - I have to put up with this kind of stuff on a daily basis, and like I said its uniformly Americans. The Canadians, Europeans, Asians and Africans don't seem to suffer from the same problem. Only those from the good 'ole US of A.

And for the record the Texan guy was a probably a Grand Kleegle of the Klan back in the day. He looked about mid 60's wearing a shitty hawaiin shirt and being an arrogant fucker.

Yellowtext: The title is, essentially, flamebait. It's an easy knee jerk reaction causer, and you have to know it. Specifically because it is so broad as to include ALL Americans, not to mention the use of two insulting adjectives in it.

Greentext: I've seen 'em suffer here in the good ol' US of A. Maybe you're just lucky (or unlucky, whatever). But there are stupid tourists from EVERYWHERE, not just America, and your post most certainly implies that you think ALL American tourists are dumbasses.

(EDIT: that and your post history concerning America in general greatly lends credence to an anti-American bias, whether true or not. Face it: this thread could EASILY be considered flamebait, especially if certain posters on this board had responded to it.)