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Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:Wow, if North America is completely destroyed, guess how fucked the rest of the world is from that blast. Holy shit, B&B killed Earth!


And photon torpedoes? WHERE ARE THE NUKES?!

Yeah, really!

North America never showed any damage when we saw it in TOS. Patching up a continent-sized area would have to take time--surely something still underway when we saw Earth in TMP, where it appeared spic 'n span.

I'm guessing it will be resolved by some kind of stupid time travel stuff.

As for the photorps...UGH. If we weren't to accept that ENT was simply a different timeline than most of other Star Trek altogether, I guess someone could say that photorps weren't used much in the Romulan war because antimatter was very expensive, especially compared to nuclear weapons.

Alternatively or in addition to that, one might say that the Romulans were those using most of the nukes. That wouldn't completely crap on Spock's statement--he'd still be right in saying the war was fought with nuclear weapons--but if I was forced to choose between the two, I'd go with option one.

To be forced into any such position flat-out sucks. I'm used to it with Star Trek, but it's reached a fever pitch with ENT.

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Furthermore, the dangerous Delphic Expanse, likened to the Bermuda Triangle, causes those who enter to "become anatomically inverted (skin on the inside, organs on the outside)."
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I wonder how it feels to be turned inside out...... OH yeah watch his horror movie from 1989 called "Society" or watch "the fly"

Sorry, B&B, another three-character acroynm already did the whole mysterious ancient alien race appears out of nowhere, and introduced them much more artfully in just one season.

If you're just looking at the landscape, not wider things like the atmosphere and physical destruction (ie craters), then it's been shown that an area can recover from almost total destruction within approximately 100 years (Krakatau - reduced to a hot mass of volcanic rocks and cinders in 1883, 100 years or so later, the island has been restored naturally to a tropical island - well, half an island anyway), so in theory, as long as they didnt show us any big craters where we know important historical/national landmarks stood in TOS then they can probably get away with it (again, not looking at atmospheric stuff).

Lumberjack - While it is true that Federation tech could easily clean up and repair the damage of such an impact, the fact remains that in the established history of Star Trek IT NEVER FUCKING HAPPENED!!!!!! Nowhere in any episode, book, techmanual or canon scrap of napkin that Roddenberry scribbled a crazed post coital fever dream on, is there ever a mention of some cockslobbering race called "The Xindi" obliterating the population of North America. This would be akin to if today the Holocaust had been erased from the history books.

James T. Kirk is from Iowa, why does he never mention the "Xindi Strike of 2153" or how about McCoy, from Georgia, an area where the entire populace would have been consumed by the 2,000ft tsunami that a massive Gulf strike would cause never mentions anything about how his folks 'resettled Gerorgia after the Xindi Strike'. McCoy's family has lived in Georgia as long as an be remembered!

This is simply Braga, who gets all holier than thou you pathetic Trekkie, because he has NEVER bothered to watch the Original Series, or bother with attempting to establish any continuity within Enterprise to connect it to any other Star Trek series.

Its shit

No its worse than shit, its three day old foreskin post sex smegma, a stench so foul it rolls out of your shorts and slaps you around the bath room , all the while telling you to take a shower ya filthy FUCK!!!


*hypervetilates* FUCK, I need a tylenol........

Now there's an image...

Preaching to the choir, here though, I'm no more enamoured of B&B than most other Trek fans, and now I think about it, they've been doing this whole temporal thing since the beginning (if its the Xindi behind the temporal stuff, I'm only running on UK episodes), and it may be too well established to simply delete in a 'Year of Hell' scenario, so we may actually be stuck with it...

The annoying thing is I could put up with Voyager (up until the last series), it certainly didnt have the same amount of enjoyable episodes as DS9, TNG or TOS, but most of the time in Enterprise, I either end up getting annoyed by the convenient invention of yet another long standing technology or wound up by the constant reliance on the temporal plot card.

And what kind of name is the Xindi anyway? It's as if they're trying to convince us that these aliens are very very alien and very very mean, simply by the addition of an X.

You could put up with Voyager? Wow! I don't know how you manage that...

Well, at least I can now fully say Ent. is not part of the old timeline in anyway, and I will have no doubts at all about this conclusion. Maybie the massive explosions will be fun to watch? I hope they show photon torps (they shouldn't have them, but this is why it is no longer ST.) with explosions worthy of the discription. That is, if they are described as anti-matter weapons, where was the big ka-boom?

Guys, Enterprise is an alternative universe.

At least I pray to fucking God that it is.

Could someone please nuke Hollywood?

Hey, weren't the bad guys called the Suliban?

HemlockGrey wrote:Hey, weren't the bad guys called the Suliban?

They were underlings to some power from the future.

Sokar wrote:<snip>

James T. Kirk is from Iowa, why does he never mention the "Xindi Strike of 2153" or how about McCoy, from Georgia, an area where the entire populace would have been consumed by the 2,000ft tsunami that a massive Gulf strike would cause never mentions anything about how his folks 'resettled Gerorgia after the Xindi Strike'. McCoy's family has lived in Georgia as long as an be remembered!

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Wouldn't that make Starfleet non-existant? Since it is based in San Fran? Shouldn't there have been a plaque or statue commemorating the battle against the Xindi at Starfleet?

Well, I'm going to play devil's advocate here, and say that at least they're doing something with the brief attempts at creating a storyline they've here and there, mostly dealing with the Suliban. I suppose that we now get to meet the Suliban's masters. It was obvious from the first episode that B&B were going to get around to this eventually. I personally would have preferred to see a series without time travel, one with an interesting war against the Romulans, and some brave new worlds to explore, but it's clear that B&B have decided that their favorite voyager bit was the year of hell and the 29th century episodes, and that they're going to make a series out of it.