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PainRack wrote:And did I say that ion drives are not sublight drives? What I'm arguing for is that another mechanism, that may be an intricate part of the hyperdrive system itself is termed "sublight" drive and that this "drive" is the one responsible for the acceleration in the first stage of the entry into hyperspace.

Why do you insist on introducing a third element to the hyperdrive system when two elements (sublight engines/hyperdrive) fit the observed model of operation perfectly?

Since you want to quote science,answer me this, is there any model of the ion drive,of the size of those present on the Rebel ships capable of performing the decceleration seen?
Considering the awesome use of fuel that will be involved,ships will be limited to an extremely limited number of jumps before the need to refuel.Yet,why do we not see this phemonena?The ISD is supposed to be capable of carrying 3 years worth of supplies on board.Can this be feasible,if the mechanism for deccelerating/accelerating the ship is indeed the humble Ion drive?

Given the level of technological sophistication required for things like hyperdrives to exist, who's to say that ion drive technology is not similarly sufficiently advanced to display the observed performance? And why is size important so important? Many things today are smaller than their predecessors, yet they greatly outperform them.

Last but not least, how will you get around the canon quote of the Millenium Falcon making the interstellar trip from Anoat to Bespin via sublight?

Last time I checked, the generally agreed consensus was that the Millenium Falcon had a backup, albeit slower hyperdrive installed. And where was it mentioned anywhere in the film that they made the journey on sublight? We saw the MF move away from the ISD's jump point under sublight, before the scene changed. So who's to say that it did not then activate said backup hyperdrive?

PainRack wrote:.Is there any model of the Ion drive,of the size of those present on the Rebel ships capable of performing the decceleration seen?
Considering the awesome use of fuel that will be involved,ships will be limited to an extremely limited number of jumps before the need to refuel.Yet,why do we not see this phemonena?The ISD is supposed to be capable of carrying 3 years worth of supplies on board.Can this be feasible,if the mechanism for deccelerating/accelerating the ship is indeed the humble Ion drive?

You're an idiot. The hyperdrive had to be fixed by Artoo in ESB before the huge jump could be made--engagement of such a system w/out hyperdrive would've put them out of reach of the Executor, but it is clear such a thing could not happen, and canonically does not happen, without a hyperjump, therefore, the logical conclusion is that the acceleration is a side-affect of the hyperjump, and caused by the hyperdrive.

PainRack wrote:Last but not least,how,will you get around the canon quote of the Millenium Falcon making the interstellar trip from Anoat to Bespin via sublight?

Uh, the same way Saxton does, the ion drives were left to push them a great distance? They're capable of moving the Death Star rapidly, and exiting an atmosphere in seconds. Why wouldn't they work? You have no data on the distance between the Avenger trash-drop and Bespin, so shut the fuck up with yet another of these tiring Brownian-esque theories that bash the EU for sake of while introducing totally useless and redundent explanations that create needless contradictions.

Occam's Razor leaves the most logical explanation: the acceleration/deacceleration is always co-incident with the hyperjump and is a sideaffect of the transition to and from hyperspeed caused by the hyperdrive. Your "sublight drive" is totally unneccessary.

Supreme_Warlord wrote:Last time I checked, the generally agreed consensus was that the Millenium Falcon had a backup, albeit slower hyperdrive installed. And where was it mentioned anywhere in the film that they made the journey on sublight? We saw the MF move away from the ISD's jump point under sublight, before the scene changed. So who's to say that it did not then activate said backup hyperdrive?

Novelisation says so. This isn't a problem, it just means that Luke had an extra month or so at Dagobah. It is my personal theory that Anoat and Bespin are very close binary, and thus the ion drives wouldn't have trouble with a little sublight high-fractional c coast toward Bespin over the course of a month or two.