World War II, What If We Did Not Win?

Super-Gagme · Post by **Super-Gagme** » 2004-02-23 07:37pm

Pablo Sanchez wrote:There's the end of your stupid scenario, are you happy now?

Yes.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2004-02-23 07:40pm

Super-Gagme wrote:
But I'm not writing a fan fiction. Fan fiction is for stories right? I see "alternate reality" and vs threads in Off Topic. So I guess what you are *really* suggesting is I should make a new thread?

No, that would be a waste of bandwidth. What you should do is comprehend that you fucking made a statment that was stupid and we pointed out why that was so, rather then waste time spinning stupidity into a senario.

Super-Gagme · Post by **Super-Gagme** » 2004-02-23 07:43pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:
Super-Gagme wrote:
But I'm not writing a fan fiction. Fan fiction is for stories right? I see "alternate reality" and vs threads in Off Topic. So I guess what you are *really* suggesting is I should make a new thread?
No, that would be a waste of bandwidth. What you should do is comprehend that you fucking made a statment that was stupid and we pointed out why that was so, rather then waste time spinning stupidity into a senario.

God your a dick, I was just trying to create something fun to consider so I can see the "expert" opinions of where it would go. Don't have to be a cock about it

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2004-02-23 07:52pm

Super-Gagme wrote: God your a dick, I was just trying to create something fun to consider so I can see the "expert" opinions of where it would go. Don't have to be a cock about it

You know, when I made my first reply I wasn't making any effort to be mean, I was taking the time to show why there's no point in discussing what you proposed, because for it to happen it really would be fiction and the options you sought would be utterly meaningless. You then produced to object to this, and that greatly annoys the fuck out of me.

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2004-02-23 07:54pm

Super-Gagme wrote: God your a dick, I was just trying to create something fun to consider so I can see the "expert" opinions of where it would go. Don't have to be a cock about it

His "expert" opinion was that it was an unworkable scenario. He wasn't being an asshole, because when we're dealing with historical scenarios (as opposed to sci-fi or fantasy scenarios) we have concrete and nearly complete data on the whole subject, such that we can say definitively that such-and-such idea is no good. We're not combining disparate sci-fi universes, we're introducing different ideas into a fully established and known universe--our own history.

To clarify the reason for the pissed-off response to your question, things like this crop up all the time in alternate history discussions. People say "what if Poland conquered Russia during the Time of Troubles?" or "what if Prinz Eugen went all the way to Istanbul?". At a certain point in posing these what-ifs, it transcend plausibility and becomes pure fantasy, in which case there's no legitimate answer, except for "It couldn't and wouldn't happen." When you came back and demanded an answer anyway, it was just a little annoying. Don't take it personally.

Anyway...

Super-Gagme · Post by **Super-Gagme** » 2004-02-23 07:56pm

Alright I didn't see it like that before, I'm sorry.

Thunderfire · Post by **Thunderfire** » 2004-02-24 05:59am

Super-Gagme wrote:Here is a whacky theory. Of course factors will be changed. Here are those factors:

-Poland gives Germany military access through their country.
-Hitler decides to win a war against Russia before making any move on the western allies.

Doesn't work you'll need to start a poland vs USSR war in 1939. Shouldn't be hard
to start one over the baltic provinces.