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Posted: 2004-02-23 07:37pm
by Super-Gagme
Pablo Sanchez wrote:There's the end of your stupid scenario, are you happy now? :roll:
Yes.

Posted: 2004-02-23 07:40pm
by Sea Skimmer
Super-Gagme wrote:
But I'm not writing a fan fiction. Fan fiction is for stories right? I see "alternate reality" and vs threads in Off Topic. So I guess what you are *really* suggesting is I should make a new thread?
No, that would be a waste of bandwidth. What you should do is comprehend that you fucking made a statment that was stupid and we pointed out why that was so, rather then waste time spinning stupidity into a senario.

Posted: 2004-02-23 07:43pm
by Super-Gagme
Sea Skimmer wrote:
Super-Gagme wrote:
But I'm not writing a fan fiction. Fan fiction is for stories right? I see "alternate reality" and vs threads in Off Topic. So I guess what you are *really* suggesting is I should make a new thread?
No, that would be a waste of bandwidth. What you should do is comprehend that you fucking made a statment that was stupid and we pointed out why that was so, rather then waste time spinning stupidity into a senario.
:shock: God your a dick, I was just trying to create something fun to consider so I can see the "expert" opinions of where it would go. Don't have to be a cock about it :cry:

Posted: 2004-02-23 07:52pm
by Sea Skimmer
Super-Gagme wrote: :shock: God your a dick, I was just trying to create something fun to consider so I can see the "expert" opinions of where it would go. Don't have to be a cock about it :cry:
You know, when I made my first reply I wasn't making any effort to be mean, I was taking the time to show why there's no point in discussing what you proposed, because for it to happen it really would be fiction and the options you sought would be utterly meaningless. You then produced to object to this, and that greatly annoys the fuck out of me.

Posted: 2004-02-23 07:54pm
by Pablo Sanchez
Super-Gagme wrote: :shock: God your a dick, I was just trying to create something fun to consider so I can see the "expert" opinions of where it would go. Don't have to be a cock about it :cry:
His "expert" opinion was that it was an unworkable scenario. He wasn't being an asshole, because when we're dealing with historical scenarios (as opposed to sci-fi or fantasy scenarios) we have concrete and nearly complete data on the whole subject, such that we can say definitively that such-and-such idea is no good. We're not combining disparate sci-fi universes, we're introducing different ideas into a fully established and known universe--our own history.

To clarify the reason for the pissed-off response to your question, things like this crop up all the time in alternate history discussions. People say "what if Poland conquered Russia during the Time of Troubles?" or "what if Prinz Eugen went all the way to Istanbul?". At a certain point in posing these what-ifs, it transcend plausibility and becomes pure fantasy, in which case there's no legitimate answer, except for "It couldn't and wouldn't happen." When you came back and demanded an answer anyway, it was just a little annoying. Don't take it personally.

Anyway...

Posted: 2004-02-23 07:56pm
by Super-Gagme
Alright I didn't see it like that before, I'm sorry.

Posted: 2004-02-24 05:59am
by Thunderfire
Super-Gagme wrote:Here is a whacky theory. Of course factors will be changed. Here are those factors:

-Poland gives Germany military access through their country.
-Hitler decides to win a war against Russia before making any move on the western allies.
Doesn't work you'll need to start a poland vs USSR war in 1939. Shouldn't be hard
to start one over the baltic provinces.