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Posted: 2004-06-26 01:21am
by Howedar

Posted: 2004-07-02 03:40pm
by MKSheppard

Posted: 2004-07-03 06:45pm
by Einhander Sn0m4n
Hey Shep, can you give me TGG? I read TBO while I was gone and I loved it. Me Want More.

Crusade 1 is pretty kewl too. Nice and bloody.

Posted: 2004-07-05 04:23pm
by MKSheppard

Posted: 2004-07-05 11:33pm
by phongn
Bahh, computer tech is 5-6 years behind ours or so but the Internet is on schedule.

EDIT: Updated the main listing.

Posted: 2004-07-06 01:22am
by Xenophobe3691
Is it just me, or does the guy who wrote The Big One absolutely hate Democrats?

Posted: 2004-07-06 01:53am
by MKSheppard
Xenophobe3691 wrote:Is it just me, or does the guy who wrote The Big One absolutely hate Democrats?
WOW, YOU'RE ONLY DISCOVERING THIS NOW?

What a shocking revelation. :twisted:

Posted: 2004-07-06 07:00am
by RedImperator
Xenophobe3691 wrote:Is it just me, or does the guy who wrote The Big One absolutely hate Democrats?
He hates Kennedy Democrats, and he obviously loathes Robert McNamara with all his heart and soul, but considering that LBJ is coming off as a fairly positive character, I wouldn't say he hates all Democrats.

Posted: 2004-07-06 12:06pm
by phongn
RedImperator wrote:He hates Kennedy Democrats, and he obviously loathes Robert McNamara with all his heart and soul, but considering that LBJ is coming off as a fairly positive character, I wouldn't say he hates all Democrats.
I don't think he hates Kennedy Democrats either; certainly he doesn't seem to like them or their policies but actual hatred is reserved for Nazis.

EDIT: As for RSM, apparently the incident at the YB-70 rollout is based on his real behavior at the second XB-70 rollout; his attempt to cancel the F-112, the B-70 and kill ARADCOM to form the ROAD divisions apparently was historical as well.

Posted: 2004-07-06 12:54pm
by Xenophobe3691
MKSheppard wrote:
Xenophobe3691 wrote:Is it just me, or does the guy who wrote The Big One absolutely hate Democrats?
WOW, YOU'RE ONLY DISCOVERING THIS NOW?

What a shocking revelation. :twisted:
Hey, it's my first time reading this story. Good story, but he needs to get the anger monkeys off his typewriter and back into their cages where they belong.

Posted: 2004-07-06 12:57pm
by Einhander Sn0m4n
Xenophobe3691 wrote:
MKSheppard wrote:
Xenophobe3691 wrote:Is it just me, or does the guy who wrote The Big One absolutely hate Democrats?
WOW, YOU'RE ONLY DISCOVERING THIS NOW?

What a shocking revelation. :twisted:
Hey, it's my first time reading this story. Good story, but he needs to get the anger monkeys off his typewriter and back into their cages where they belong.
Actually I think it's funny as shit. :)

Posted: 2004-07-06 01:11pm
by Xenophobe3691
Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:
Xenophobe3691 wrote: Hey, it's my first time reading this story. Good story, but he needs to get the anger monkeys off his typewriter and back into their cages where they belong.
Actually I think it's funny as shit. :)
So do I, I can't imagine anyone ever using the word "Democrat" as a curse word...I'll try it, though, and probably get bitchslapped by my whole family...

Posted: 2004-07-06 01:12pm
by phongn
Xenophobe3691 wrote:So do I, I can't imagine anyone ever using the word "Democrat" as a curse word...I'll try it, though, and probably get bitchslapped by my whole family...
The person in question who its based off of actually does have that great dislike of Democrats; its more or less in character.

Posted: 2004-07-06 03:51pm
by RedImperator
phongn wrote:
RedImperator wrote:He hates Kennedy Democrats, and he obviously loathes Robert McNamara with all his heart and soul, but considering that LBJ is coming off as a fairly positive character, I wouldn't say he hates all Democrats.
I don't think he hates Kennedy Democrats either; certainly he doesn't seem to like them or their policies but actual hatred is reserved for Nazis.

EDIT: As for RSM, apparently the incident at the YB-70 rollout is based on his real behavior at the second XB-70 rollout; his attempt to cancel the F-112, the B-70 and kill ARADCOM to form the ROAD divisions apparently was historical as well.
Well, hate is relative. And I do think his feelings for McNamara go well beyond dislike. If you read some of what he writes in the commentary threads, contempt virtually boils off every post McNamara is mentioned.

Posted: 2004-07-06 11:13pm
by MKSheppard
RedImperator wrote:And I do think his feelings for McNamara go well beyond dislike. If you read some of what he writes in the commentary threads, contempt virtually boils off every post McNamara is mentioned.
With damn good reason.
Seer Stuart wrote: This really is how the defense budget process works. The Secretary of Defense prepares a series of budget requests (usually but not always based on presentations from the Service chiefs) and sends it to the House and Senate. The House and Senate then make their own changes (sometimes minor, sometimes drastic) to the budget request. This results in two defense budgets, a House version and a Senate version. Traditionally (again, not always) the House tends to reflect the wishes of the Secretary of Defense more closely than the Senate.

The two defense budgets then go to Conference where they are compared and the discrepancies between them resolved. This is usually where the Senate persuades the House that SecDefs ideas are not good. There's usually compromise on most things; its very, very rare for Conferrence to be a slugging match. Once Conference has produced its defense budget it goes to the President for signature. The President can either sign off on it as a whole or veto it as a whole.

The stunt McNamara tries to pull in this section is factually correct - he really did do this. He wanted the F-12B and B-70 cancelled and his defense budget reflected that. The Senate put the money in and Conference approved the decision. Kennedy signed the budget and McNamara instantly refused to release the B-70 and F-12B funding, killing both programs. He used the same technique to gut the US air defense system.

It can't be done now, the law's been changed.

Posted: 2004-07-06 11:21pm
by phongn
Fortunately for them, his author-avatar has a very skilled assistant :twisted:

Posted: 2004-07-07 05:44pm
by phongn
1965-6 OOB

EDIT: Ouch. Apparently even after sustaining massive losses in Russia (equal to our timeline's European and Pacific losses for the US Army combined, probably exlusive of USAAF losses) the sacrifices of the US Army in the TBOverse have more or less been forgotten by the public at large :(

Posted: 2004-07-16 08:25pm
by phongn

Posted: 2004-07-19 11:27am
by Col. Crackpot
Crusade 8

Crusade 9

goddamn this story is great.

Posted: 2004-07-19 05:01pm
by lukexcom
Un...be....leivable. Stuart writes gold. :shock:

Damn, I'm at the point where every day I check to see if Stuart wrote another chapter in his TBO universe. He should think about publishing these one day.

Posted: 2004-07-19 09:00pm
by Sea Skimmer
lukexcom wrote:Un...be....leivable. Stuart writes gold. :shock:

Damn, I'm at the point where every day I check to see if Stuart wrote another chapter in his TBO universe. He should think about publishing these one day.
He already has looked into publishing The Big One. He never said what became of it though. Book publishing can be a slow process so its probuabbly still in some pile waiting to be looked at,.

Posted: 2004-07-19 11:45pm
by Thag
Am I reading this right? Is Johnson considering taking out Kennedy before the election?

Posted: 2004-07-19 11:46pm
by The Duchess of Zeon
Thag wrote:Am I reading this right? Is Johnson considering taking out Kennedy before the election?
No you're not. Nobody gets taken out.

Posted: 2004-07-23 11:56am
by MKSheppard
New Story in the TBOverse

Posted: 2004-07-23 08:37pm
by BlkbrryTheGreat
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Thag wrote:Am I reading this right? Is Johnson considering taking out Kennedy before the election?
No you're not. Nobody gets taken out.
Right, and Ghandi died in an accident. :wink: