Posted: 2004-06-26 01:21am
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WOW, YOU'RE ONLY DISCOVERING THIS NOW?Xenophobe3691 wrote:Is it just me, or does the guy who wrote The Big One absolutely hate Democrats?
He hates Kennedy Democrats, and he obviously loathes Robert McNamara with all his heart and soul, but considering that LBJ is coming off as a fairly positive character, I wouldn't say he hates all Democrats.Xenophobe3691 wrote:Is it just me, or does the guy who wrote The Big One absolutely hate Democrats?
I don't think he hates Kennedy Democrats either; certainly he doesn't seem to like them or their policies but actual hatred is reserved for Nazis.RedImperator wrote:He hates Kennedy Democrats, and he obviously loathes Robert McNamara with all his heart and soul, but considering that LBJ is coming off as a fairly positive character, I wouldn't say he hates all Democrats.
Hey, it's my first time reading this story. Good story, but he needs to get the anger monkeys off his typewriter and back into their cages where they belong.MKSheppard wrote:WOW, YOU'RE ONLY DISCOVERING THIS NOW?Xenophobe3691 wrote:Is it just me, or does the guy who wrote The Big One absolutely hate Democrats?
What a shocking revelation.
Actually I think it's funny as shit.Xenophobe3691 wrote:Hey, it's my first time reading this story. Good story, but he needs to get the anger monkeys off his typewriter and back into their cages where they belong.MKSheppard wrote:WOW, YOU'RE ONLY DISCOVERING THIS NOW?Xenophobe3691 wrote:Is it just me, or does the guy who wrote The Big One absolutely hate Democrats?
What a shocking revelation.
So do I, I can't imagine anyone ever using the word "Democrat" as a curse word...I'll try it, though, and probably get bitchslapped by my whole family...Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:Actually I think it's funny as shit.Xenophobe3691 wrote: Hey, it's my first time reading this story. Good story, but he needs to get the anger monkeys off his typewriter and back into their cages where they belong.
The person in question who its based off of actually does have that great dislike of Democrats; its more or less in character.Xenophobe3691 wrote:So do I, I can't imagine anyone ever using the word "Democrat" as a curse word...I'll try it, though, and probably get bitchslapped by my whole family...
Well, hate is relative. And I do think his feelings for McNamara go well beyond dislike. If you read some of what he writes in the commentary threads, contempt virtually boils off every post McNamara is mentioned.phongn wrote:I don't think he hates Kennedy Democrats either; certainly he doesn't seem to like them or their policies but actual hatred is reserved for Nazis.RedImperator wrote:He hates Kennedy Democrats, and he obviously loathes Robert McNamara with all his heart and soul, but considering that LBJ is coming off as a fairly positive character, I wouldn't say he hates all Democrats.
EDIT: As for RSM, apparently the incident at the YB-70 rollout is based on his real behavior at the second XB-70 rollout; his attempt to cancel the F-112, the B-70 and kill ARADCOM to form the ROAD divisions apparently was historical as well.
With damn good reason.RedImperator wrote:And I do think his feelings for McNamara go well beyond dislike. If you read some of what he writes in the commentary threads, contempt virtually boils off every post McNamara is mentioned.
Seer Stuart wrote: This really is how the defense budget process works. The Secretary of Defense prepares a series of budget requests (usually but not always based on presentations from the Service chiefs) and sends it to the House and Senate. The House and Senate then make their own changes (sometimes minor, sometimes drastic) to the budget request. This results in two defense budgets, a House version and a Senate version. Traditionally (again, not always) the House tends to reflect the wishes of the Secretary of Defense more closely than the Senate.
The two defense budgets then go to Conference where they are compared and the discrepancies between them resolved. This is usually where the Senate persuades the House that SecDefs ideas are not good. There's usually compromise on most things; its very, very rare for Conferrence to be a slugging match. Once Conference has produced its defense budget it goes to the President for signature. The President can either sign off on it as a whole or veto it as a whole.
The stunt McNamara tries to pull in this section is factually correct - he really did do this. He wanted the F-12B and B-70 cancelled and his defense budget reflected that. The Senate put the money in and Conference approved the decision. Kennedy signed the budget and McNamara instantly refused to release the B-70 and F-12B funding, killing both programs. He used the same technique to gut the US air defense system.
It can't be done now, the law's been changed.
He already has looked into publishing The Big One. He never said what became of it though. Book publishing can be a slow process so its probuabbly still in some pile waiting to be looked at,.lukexcom wrote:Un...be....leivable. Stuart writes gold.![]()
Damn, I'm at the point where every day I check to see if Stuart wrote another chapter in his TBO universe. He should think about publishing these one day.
No you're not. Nobody gets taken out.Thag wrote:Am I reading this right? Is Johnson considering taking out Kennedy before the election?
Right, and Ghandi died in an accident.The Duchess of Zeon wrote:No you're not. Nobody gets taken out.Thag wrote:Am I reading this right? Is Johnson considering taking out Kennedy before the election?