Most heartless thing you've done

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2004-04-07 10:32pm

What is it with the people here and cruelty to animals. Jesus

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-04-07 10:32pm

Robert Walper wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:Make note of the people who confessed to killing or abusing larger animals such as rodents. There is a fairly well-known correlation between that kind of childhood behaviour and adult sociopathic behaviour. That goes double for abusive behaviour toward smaller children.
Good god Mike! Make me feel like shit! I'd never intentionally hurt a child or kid. I'm downright protective of them and other people. And I'm not anti social by any means. I get along fine with just about anybody I meet.

*begins pondering self image and behavior with serious concern*

Sorry, but it's true. Kids who torture or kill small animals have a vastly higher chance of becoming adult sociopaths. This fact is true regardless of whether it bothers you.

Robert Treder · Post by **Robert Treder** » 2004-04-07 10:32pm

As for physical violence, I'll kill an insect without thinking twice, and I killed a few birds with my BB gun when I was a kid, but I make it a point not to hurt mammals. We have to stick together.

As for being mean, there were a few kids I was a jerk to in middle school, but nothing too bad. In fact, most of the people I was really mean to, I've since apologized to.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-04-07 10:41pm

The meanest thing I ever did was probably being the occasional bully to my little brother when I was younger. Just being a jerk, I never hit him or anything.

I can't believe all these people hurt animals. I was always sentimental about animals when I was a child, especially small mammals. I still toss the occassional seed or nut to a neighborhood squirrel when I'm relaxing on the porch.

A lot of you are evil.

Cornelius · Post by **Cornelius** » 2004-04-07 10:53pm

Drowned a baby-hamster by putting it in a old aspirn bottle, filling it with water to the rim, and then putting the lid on

But why? What was the purpose?

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-04-07 11:00pm

Cornelius wrote:
Drowned a baby-hamster by putting it in a old aspirn bottle, filling it with water to the rim, and then putting the lid on
But why? What was the purpose?

The purpose is not the question. The lack of natural inhibition is the question; when faced with the desperate struggle for life and squeals of pain that a typical mammal will emanate when in danger, a normal person feels empathy. Some, however, do not. These people will do this sort of thing for a wide variety of reasons: boredom, curiosity, etc. But their lack of empathy is what enables this behaviour, and it makes them potentially dangerous to society. One must hope that the ideology of morality takes root and inhibits them where the natural instinct for empathy has obviously failed.

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2004-04-07 11:35pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Robert Walper wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:Make note of the people who confessed to killing or abusing larger animals such as rodents. There is a fairly well-known correlation between that kind of childhood behaviour and adult sociopathic behaviour. That goes double for abusive behaviour toward smaller children.
Good god Mike! Make me feel like shit! I'd never intentionally hurt a child or kid. I'm downright protective of them and other people. And I'm not anti social by any means. I get along fine with just about anybody I meet.

*begins pondering self image and behavior with serious concern*
Sorry, but it's true. Kids who torture or kill small animals have a vastly higher chance of becoming adult sociopaths. This fact is true regardless of whether it bothers you.

No no...you misunderstand. I don't dispute the fact, merely that I'm a sociopath by virtue of having done some terrible things when I was younger.

On that point though, wouldn't it actually be natural for a young human being to have killer instincts? We are omnivores after all, killing is part of our nature, as upsetting as that can be at times.

ArmorPierce · Post by **ArmorPierce** » 2004-04-07 11:37pm

Wow, we've got a lot of former (hopefully) sick bastards around here. Insects I can understand but hampsters and rabbits?

For me something heartless I've done was at a place we weren't wearing shoes so I took 4 inch nail out of the side of something and set in on the floor where I knew someone in particular would stand and he did indead stand there and have the nail go up it his foot.

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2004-04-07 11:38pm

Stravo wrote:What is it with the people here and cruelty to animals. Jesus

Believe it or not, I actually hate animal abusers with a passion. I simply try not to dwell upon acts I commited when I was younger. Trust me, the guilt gets to me sometimes...

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2004-04-07 11:39pm

Robert Treder wrote:As for physical violence, I'll kill an insect without thinking twice, and I killed a few birds with my BB gun when I was a kid, but I make it a point not to hurt mammals.

Not to be idiot nitpicker here, but birds are in fact mammals.

Darth Raptor · Post by **Darth Raptor** » 2004-04-07 11:43pm

Robert Walper wrote:Not to be idiot nitpicker here, but birds are in fact mammals.

You are an idiot nitpicker, since you're WRONG.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-04-07 11:43pm

Robert Walper wrote:Not to be idiot nitpicker here, but birds are in fact mammals.

No they're not.

Birds belong to Phyla Aves; we belong to Phyla Mammalia.

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2004-04-07 11:44pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:
Robert Walper wrote:Not to be idiot nitpicker here, but birds are in fact mammals.
No they're not.

Birds belong to Phyla Aves; we belong to Phyla Mammalia.

Really? Shit...I thought they were mammals...my mistake.

AnimeJet · Post by **AnimeJet** » 2004-04-07 11:45pm

*edit*

bah, too slow

J · Post by J » 2004-04-07 11:45pm

We had a racoon problem in our neighbourhood a while back, the rabid 'coons would get into our garbage cans and make a huge mess as well as ripping up our garden. So me & my sister decided to go hunt them with our bow & arrow set. Well, we learned that a broadhead arrow will go clean through a racoon, and that it still took some time for them to die so we'd either have to bludgeon them to death or headshoot them from pointblank range. We headshot them. After a while the 'coons learned to stay away from our house.

Ryoga · Post by **Ryoga** » 2004-04-08 12:01am

When I was like 4 or 5, an old friend of the family had come over for dinner. This guy's practically like an uncle, and has known my parents for years. Anyway, I threw a tantrum because I wanted a toy, and he took me to Fred Meyer's at like 9 at night just to get me a Ninja Turtle so I'd feel better.

Y'know, maybe that doesn't count as heartless, since I still regret doing that. I was a stupid kid, but....

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-04-08 12:02am

jmac wrote:We had a racoon problem in our neighbourhood a while back, the rabid 'coons would get into our garbage cans and make a huge mess as well as ripping up our garden. So me & my sister decided to go hunt them with our bow & arrow set. Well, we learned that a broadhead arrow will go clean through a racoon, and that it still took some time for them to die so we'd either have to bludgeon them to death or headshoot them from pointblank range. We headshot them. After a while the 'coons learned to stay away from our house.

A rabid raccoon is dangerous. That's a "no choice" situation.

muse · Post by **muse** » 2004-04-08 12:08am

Darth Wong wrote:A rabid raccoon is dangerous. That's a "no choice" situation.

It's hard to say since we could've just left them alone and let then fuck everything up every couple days. Besides making a mess & ruining our garden they weren't causing us any harm, of course they might've attacked us one day so who knows. Still, I think we had a bit too much fun shooting them with arrows.

J · Post by J » 2004-04-08 12:10am

"We"? Which one of us is "we"? Don't you mean you had a bit too much fun turning them into pincushions?

Seele · Post by **Seele** » 2004-04-08 12:51am

Well, I've done some things that could be considered cruel.

But one incident in particular comes to mind. A couple of years ago, I knew this couple who lived with some buddies of mine. The girl was pregnant but wasn't her boyfriend's. (She was a bit of a slut and a huge drama queen and the bf was a very much so an asshole that I personally couldn’t stand.) But the girl I was rather sympathetic with. One day she thought she might have some sort of issue with her baby so I drove her to the hospital emergency room. Turns out everything was ok so she asked me to call her bf from her room that she was staying at in the hospital. So in a sad, low voice, I told him that she had a miscarriage. Hearing a grown man cry is a very sad thing indeed. She thought it was really funny. I handed the phone back to her and she let him in on it. He was really pissed off but nothing came of it.

They soon got kicked out of my buddies place and broke up mostly to her sleeping around with alot of other guys and both just disappeared off the face of the earth. Not exactly my most proudest moments.

Post by **Kuja** » 2004-04-08 12:53am

jmac wrote:We had a racoon problem in our neighbourhood a while back, the rabid 'coons would get into our garbage cans and make a huge mess as well as ripping up our garden. So me & my sister decided to go hunt them with our bow & arrow set. Well, we learned that a broadhead arrow will go clean through a racoon, and that it still took some time for them to die so we'd either have to bludgeon them to death or headshoot them from pointblank range. We headshot them. After a while the 'coons learned to stay away from our house.

That's not really heartless. Heartless would be shooting them once and then letting them linger.

Post by **Kuja** » 2004-04-08 01:22am

As for me, I'm not heartless when it comes to animals. I just can't do stuff like that. Even flushing my dead fish was heartbreaking. But when it comes to humans...

In middle school, I knew a certain girl. This girl was something of a drama queen, but not to a ridiculous extent. Then one day, she came up to me crying, seriously crying, and before she could even say anything, I put a finger in her face and snapped "don't start. Don't even fucking start." Then I spun on my heel and left her there without a look back. I later found out that her boyfriend had dumped her because she was 'annoying.' I never apologized.

Back when I lived in Ohio, I found out I was going to be moving in a couple months. There was a girl I had my eye on, and I began going all out for her before I moved. I tossed off every line in the book, from 'I'll never see you again' to 'I love you, I really do.' She finally gave in and slept with me. The day before I left Ohio, she asked me if I would call her once in a while and I told her, in the crudest terms, that I didn't love her and wouldn't call her.

There was one time I was goofing around with a younger cousin in his basement when, intending to just make a goof, I picked up a heavy pool toy and made a jerking motion to imitate throwing a frisbee. Unfortunately, it slipped out of my hand and hit him in the forehead, opening up a gash above his right eye. He ran upstairs yammering and I quickly wiped the blood off of the toy and spread it on the edge of a nearby desk. Then, I told my aunt he'd tripped and hit his head on the desk. First chance I got, I hissed "Tell and I'll kill you" in his ear. He never told.

One of my uncles is a particularly religious man, and he and his wife have raised their kids to be very religious. Well, one day, they were over at our house, and one of their sons messed up my room. When I came home from an errand and caught him, I demanded an explanation. He promtply said "Well, I don't know." (he was about eight or nine IIRC). I stared at him for a good few seconds while a boiling pot of rage that had been building up over a rather trying semester at high school finally overflowed. I grabbed a nearby Swiss Army Kinfe, flicked out the largest blade, and grabbed the front of his shirt. "Listen," I growled. "All the stuff your parents told you about god watching over you is a lie. You want to know the truth? The truth is that I'm a goddamn devil straight from hell, and if you ever even think about touching anything in this room without my explicit permission again, I'm going to slaughter you and present you to lord Satan myself. Do you understand me?" He was so shell-shocked, that he just nodded and I let him go. Then I reverted back to Mr. Nice Guy and made lots of funny jokes while he and I put my room back together.

I also used to lie to everyone. About everything. With a completely straight face. And I would never regret it. I used to be an utterly heartless bastard back in my middle school and early high school days. No wonder I never had any friends.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2004-04-08 01:38am

the usual animal cruetly when I was young.

torn legs off grasshoppers, buried them under the sand with the tide coming in.

ants and magnifying glasses.

ant colonies and hoses.

luring a frog off of a 30 ft cliff.

that mainly comes to mind.

Mayabird · Post by **Mayabird** » 2004-04-08 01:40am

Alright, so there's this dumb freshman who makes an idiot of himself on the band header whenever he posts something. We have 69 self-imposed and self-maintained rules, though only three are important: Don't post a one-liner, don't attach a picture or anything else, and always have a subject line. That's it. It's easy to remember. But no, this kid almost always breaks one of the three (and once broke all three simultaneously). He's not a jerk. He's just an incredibly dense kid.

So anyway, not too long ago he did it again. He made a post without a subject. So I applied what I've learned here about proper smackdown-age and very cruely flamed the ever-loving crap out of him. And when he complained, I did it again. I so mercilessly flamed that dumb kid (publicly over the header) that several people in the band actually praised me (again, over the header, but also in person but the kid didn't see those).

Now the guy is probably going to quit band and leave school, I hear. It's not just about me, actually; band is the only thing he has going for him, sadly enough, and he's close to failing out anyway. But now he realizes that he's really disliked by the band and has nothing left. He's been completely avoiding everyone recently. I was such an asshole and the kid didn't really deserve it. He's just dumb, not a jerk. I should have just sent him something privately instead of calling him all that SD-level stuff over the header.

This might not be the most heartless thing I've ever done (the incident with the pregnant girls in high school probably ranks higher) but it definately bothers me the most right now.

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2004-04-08 01:46am

I've only taken the life of one thing larger than a bee, and that was a mouse. It was caught in a mouse trap, with a broken neck. Not wanting to see it suffer, I smashed it with a concrete block. After that, I bawled like a baby, because I knew that the mouse didn't mean to do anyone harm; it just wanted to survive like any other animal. Still bothers me when I think about it.

How anyone would desire to torture, maim, or kill an animal for fun... that's something I'll never understand.