Counter Clinton Library???

[18-Till-I-Die]

There is only one explanation for the right's continued obsession with Bill Clinton.

They think he's still in office.

Now now, just hear me out. Look at all the fuck-ups the Bush administration has been responsible for. The economy's still in a rut, there's been a net loss of jobs, the administration lied to the American people and is using semantics wordplay to cover its tracks, and we've managed to fuck up Iraq even worse than it was before we went there. Not even the most die-hard of right-wingers could deny these simple facts. Has the Bush administration failed us? No, that's simply not possible.

Obviously, the Clinton administration must have successfully carried out a covert insurrection of the White House and is now back in power. That's the only explanation for why things are in the shitter. It is absolutely imperative that we remove Bill Clinton from office.

Very well executed, Durandal, four stars, very funny

[Iceberg]

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Well, when a supposed "Map error" with the CIA thinking the Chinese
embassy is down the street ends up with the JDAM impacting the
exact spot where the chinese keep their intelligence people in the
embassy...

I mean, hell, it's fucking suspicious.

And here I thought you guys were saying that Clinton was in the Chinese's back pocket. Kinda funny way to express being paid off by the Forbidden City by dropping a 2,000 pound bomb on the intel section of a Chinese embassy, innit?

[Durandal]

There is only one explanation for the right's continued obsession with Bill Clinton.

They think he's still in office.

Now now, just hear me out. Look at all the fuck-ups the Bush administration has been responsible for. The economy's still in a rut, there's been a net loss of jobs, the administration lied to the American people and is using semantics wordplay to cover its tracks, and we've managed to fuck up Iraq even worse than it was before we went there. Not even the most die-hard of right-wingers could deny these simple facts. Has the Bush administration failed us? No, that's simply not possible.

Obviously, the Clinton administration must have successfully carried out a covert insurrection of the White House and is now back in power. That's the only explanation for why things are in the shitter. It is absolutely imperative that we remove Bill Clinton from office.

Very well executed, Durandal, four stars, very funny

Our country is in the middle of a covert insurrection, and you think it's funny? You must be a liberal, you anti-American, unpatriotic terrorist! "One nation under God." SAY IT!

[Glocksman]

It's simply that the Clintons make good bogeymen to shake the money tree with.

Bill was a scumbag and dishonest, but he's not President any more.
Hillary, OTOH...

[Iceberg]

It's simply that the Clintons make good bogeymen to shake the money tree with.

Bill was a scumbag and dishonest, but he's not President any more.
Hillary, OTOH...

Is also not the president. Nor is she likely to be nominated - there's too much negative emotional baggage related to her for the Democratic Party to put her up on a Presidential ticket.

[Raptor 597]

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Well, when a supposed "Map error" with the CIA thinking the Chinese
embassy is down the street ends up with the JDAM impacting the
exact spot where the chinese keep their intelligence people in the
embassy...

I mean, hell, it's fucking suspicious.

And here I thought you guys were saying that Clinton was in the Chinese's back pocket. Kinda funny way to express being paid off by the Forbidden City by dropping a 2,000 pound bomb on the intel section of a Chinese embassy, innit?

They would would never see it coming. After pocketing Clinton the last thing they would except is that embassy their gets delivered 2000 lbs. of sweet death.

[MKSheppard]

The economy's still in a rut

Actually, the unemployment rate is the same as it was during Clinton's
1996 re-election bid, 5.6%

[MKSheppard]

Is also not the president. Nor is she likely to be nominated - there's too much negative emotional baggage related to her for the Democratic Party to put her up on a Presidential ticket.

Except Clinton's Terry McAullife runs the DNC.

[Iceberg]

Clinton cannot really be credited for any of those systems or weapons. They came into service because the military wanted them in service, not because Clinton wanted them. Although Clinton went along with these programs and did nothing to hinder them, he didn't push for them at all...

NCW was the baby of Gen. Hugh Shelton, who was Clinton's chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during his second term of office.

[Glocksman]

It's simply that the Clintons make good bogeymen to shake the money tree with.

Bill was a scumbag and dishonest, but he's not President any more.
Hillary, OTOH...

Is also not the president. Nor is she likely to be nominated - there's too much negative emotional baggage related to her for the Democratic Party to put her up on a Presidential ticket.

No, but the mere mention of the possibility is useful in convincing donors to pony up.

As you said, she's too polarizing a figure. You either love her or despise her.

[Durandal]

The economy's still in a rut

Actually, the unemployment rate is the same as it was during Clinton's 1996 re-election bid, 5.6%

The number of jobs now is less than the number of jobs at the beginning of Bush's term.

[Sea Skimmer]

Clinton was a successful Democratic president who actually got things accomplished in the face of extreme conservative opposition, by seeking compromise and consensus over dogmatic party line bullcrap and looking for innovative ways to make American foreign policy more cost-effective (the Clinton Administration, BTW, started and brought into use the network-centric warfare approach that bore so much fruit in Afghanistan and Iraq;

Bullshit, IVIS on the M1A2, which was the first real application of network-centric warfare was begun under Regan, perfected under Bush senior and was already in production by the time Clinton arrived in office.

and numerous new pieces of hardware heavily used by the military, like the RQ-1 Predator drone and the Joint Direct Attack Munition).

More bullshit, JDAM predated Clinton and was only possibul because of work starting in 1986 on the Advanced Interdiction Weapon System, which became JSOW in 1992, the two systems use an identical GPS guidance system.

He also, unlike his Republican successor, succeeded in pursuing American foreign policy goals around the world without drawing ire and outright hatred from America's global neighbors, especially those who are supposed to be our friends.

Personally I'd rather see the US hated then to go in under an international banner and empower what our state department called terrorists to ethnically cleanse a province.

[MKSheppard]

NCW was the baby of Gen. Hugh Shelton, who was Clinton's chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during his second term of office.

Yeah, like FCS is going to "network centrize" and "leverage" knowledge
to make a 30 ton tank as survivable as a 70 ton one