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Posted: 2002-11-01 08:49pm
by CmdrWilkens
Sea Skimmer wrote:Death to them both! EMP resistant Vacuum tubes forever!!!
Yes and black and white TV is far superior and New Coke is the greatest drink ever.

Posted: 2002-11-01 09:00pm
by aerius
Sea Skimmer wrote:Death to them both! EMP resistant Vacuum tubes forever!!!
Hmmm...I wonder if I can rewire my vacuum tube headphone amplifier so that it can run Quake 3 Arena? :P

Posted: 2002-11-01 09:05pm
by Mr Bean
Hmmm...I wonder if I can rewire my vacuum tube headphone amplifier so that it can run Quake 3 Arena?
*Magiver Mode hmm some tape, A pieace of String and these left over chopsticsk and a few cuts here with my penknife, there and there.... VILA! A Quantum Comtuer/Helecopter

Posted: 2002-11-01 09:42pm
by phongn
CmdrWilkens wrote:
phongn wrote:And you seriously expect me to compare the instruction sets of IA32 and PowerPC?
No, I was just stating that it would be the next logical progression unless you want to grab Dalton and start arguing A/V formats :)
I don't think Dalton & I want to use up all of Mike's bandwidth :P

Posted: 2002-11-02 12:06am
by CmdrWilkens
phongn wrote:
CmdrWilkens wrote:
phongn wrote:And you seriously expect me to compare the instruction sets of IA32 and PowerPC?
No, I was just stating that it would be the next logical progression unless you want to grab Dalton and start arguing A/V formats :)
I don't think Dalton & I want to use up all of Mike's bandwidth :P
You already consume all of mine downloading the messages on ASVS so why should the guys ehre be spared the sight :)

Posted: 2002-11-02 01:19am
by Uraniun235

Posted: 2002-11-02 02:13pm
by Durandal
It's much more fun hijacking threads. :)

Posted: 2002-11-02 03:14pm
by phongn
In reference to an earlier post, B&W has some advantages to NTSC, mainly as the latter format was a hack to get a B&W set to work with a color signal.

Posted: 2002-11-02 04:01pm
by Durandal
Black and white is also easier to work with than NTSC. They call it "Never The Same Color" for a reason. :)

My favorite is the SECAM one, though. Since only the French use it, and the French just have to be different, the joke acronym for SECAM is "System Essentially Contrary to All Methods."

Let the hijacking begin!

Posted: 2002-11-02 07:15pm
by CmdrWilkens
Durandal wrote:Black and white is also easier to work with than NTSC. They call it "Never The Same Color" for a reason. :)

My favorite is the SECAM one, though. Since only the French use it, and the French just have to be different, the joke acronym for SECAM is "System Essentially Contrary to All Methods."

Let the hijacking begin!
So what are the interesting components of the acronym PAL?

Posted: 2002-11-02 07:31pm
by Durandal
I don't know of a joke one. Everyone likes PAL. :)

The real acronym for PAL is Phased Alternating Lines.

Posted: 2002-11-02 07:38pm
by CmdrWilkens
Durandal wrote:I don't know of a joke one. Everyone likes PAL. :)

The real acronym for PAL is Phased Alternating Lines.
Well if there isn't a funny one then make one up? You know it could even be complementary.

Posted: 2002-11-02 08:11pm
by Durandal
I'll give it some thought. :)

Posted: 2002-11-02 10:25pm
by phongn
Durandal wrote:Black and white is also easier to work with than NTSC. They call it "Never The Same Color" for a reason. :)

My favorite is the SECAM one, though. Since only the French use it, and the French just have to be different, the joke acronym for SECAM is "System Essentially Contrary to All Methods."

Let the hijacking begin!
Goddamn but do I hate NTSC. I understand the reasons behind it and they were sound reasons, but it should have been replaced years ago by HDTV. I want my 1080i football games and 720p movies!

Posted: 2002-11-02 10:27pm
by phongn
And bah, DVD. I want to see video using the full bandwidth of DVCPRO50 :D

Posted: 2002-11-02 10:28pm
by Durandal
I don't want interlacing. I want it gone. Period. No more interlacing. We don't need it anymore. I want everything to be progressive, the way it should be, that way TV's and computers can communicate with each other seamlessly.

That, and killing interlacing makes DVD's easier to rip. :)

Posted: 2002-11-02 10:32pm
by phongn
I don't mind interlacing too much as long as I get a lot of extra lines as a result. It's not for everything. Now, 1080p would rock, but I don't think that'll happen anytime soon.

Even better would be the full 7.2 channels of losslessly-compressed sound :D

Posted: 2002-11-02 11:56pm
by Uraniun235
phongn wrote:
Durandal wrote:Black and white is also easier to work with than NTSC. They call it "Never The Same Color" for a reason. :)

My favorite is the SECAM one, though. Since only the French use it, and the French just have to be different, the joke acronym for SECAM is "System Essentially Contrary to All Methods."

Let the hijacking begin!
Goddamn but do I hate NTSC. I understand the reasons behind it and they were sound reasons, but it should have been replaced years ago by HDTV. I want my 1080i football games and 720p movies!
Think of the poor broadcasters. And the people who have to upgrade their now-worthless televisions.

Posted: 2002-11-03 12:28am
by phongn
Well, the TV isn't entirely worthless - you can buy a converter (I know, it's an added expense) to convert the SDTV signal into NTSC. The broadcasters I have some sympathy for, but it's about time the standard has changed.

Posted: 2002-11-03 03:02am
by Vertigo1
phongn wrote:Well, the TV isn't entirely worthless - you can buy a converter (I know, it's an added expense) to convert the SDTV signal into NTSC. The broadcasters I have some sympathy for, but it's about time the standard has changed.
AMEN! My parents got an HDTV bigscreen TV a few months ago and for once I'd love to see something look sharp on it! Normal broadcasts look like shit on it! (yet DVDs look flawless!)

Posted: 2002-11-03 01:00pm
by phongn
Vertigo1 wrote:
phongn wrote:Well, the TV isn't entirely worthless - you can buy a converter (I know, it's an added expense) to convert the SDTV signal into NTSC. The broadcasters I have some sympathy for, but it's about time the standard has changed.
AMEN! My parents got an HDTV bigscreen TV a few months ago and for once I'd love to see something look sharp on it! Normal broadcasts look like shit on it! (yet DVDs look flawless!)
My uncle has a Mitsubishi HDTV. Marvelous picture quality. Now, time to wait until HD-DVD comes out :D

Posted: 2002-11-03 02:24pm
by Durandal
I was in an electronics store one time, and there was an HDTV showing a Cubs game that was being broadcast in HDTV (I didn't catch which standard it was using, probably 1080i), but it looked positively gorgeous.

Posted: 2002-11-03 04:34pm
by phongn
Durandal wrote:I was in an electronics store one time, and there was an HDTV showing a Cubs game that was being broadcast in HDTV (I didn't catch which standard it was using, probably 1080i), but it looked positively gorgeous.
I was in a store with this 65" monitor hooked up to a Sony HDCAM deck, showing some NASA liftoff footage. That was droolworthy.

Posted: 2002-11-03 05:00pm
by CmdrWilkens
phongn wrote:
Durandal wrote:I was in an electronics store one time, and there was an HDTV showing a Cubs game that was being broadcast in HDTV (I didn't catch which standard it was using, probably 1080i), but it looked positively gorgeous.
I was in a store with this 65" monitor hooked up to a Sony HDCAM deck, showing some NASA liftoff footage. That was droolworthy.
I don't think there are too many 65" monitors out there which aren't droolworthy.

Posted: 2002-11-03 06:56pm
by phongn
CmdrWilkens wrote:
phongn wrote:
Durandal wrote:I was in an electronics store one time, and there was an HDTV showing a Cubs game that was being broadcast in HDTV (I didn't catch which standard it was using, probably 1080i), but it looked positively gorgeous.
I was in a store with this 65" monitor hooked up to a Sony HDCAM deck, showing some NASA liftoff footage. That was droolworthy.
I don't think there are too many 65" monitors out there which aren't droolworthy.
Well, large screens are cool and all, but their picture is still NTSC - still nice. HDTV, on the other hand (especially from an uncompressed source)...