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KowaiYukiDono wrote:
Now, for a smaller-chested woman, this wouldn't be an issue. But once you hit C it gets iffy. C is bigger than you think. And the smaller-chested women are the ones who don' have massively uncomfortable combination-lock bras that happen to be difficult to remove with one hand.

im a C and iv never had back problems.

Ravenwing wrote:

KowaiYukiDono wrote:
Now, for a smaller-chested woman, this wouldn't be an issue. But once you hit C it gets iffy. C is bigger than you think. And the smaller-chested women are the ones who don' have massively uncomfortable combination-lock bras that happen to be difficult to remove with one hand.

im a C and iv never had back problems.

But you wear a bra, so not really a problem. Plus are you old enough for problems to start manifesting themselves? Some ladies don't notice problems until their mid-to late 20's. Of course some don't get problems at all until well into their 40's so...

Rob Wilson wrote:

Ravenwing wrote:

KowaiYukiDono wrote:
Now, for a smaller-chested woman, this wouldn't be an issue. But once you hit C it gets iffy. C is bigger than you think. And the smaller-chested women are the ones who don' have massively uncomfortable combination-lock bras that happen to be difficult to remove with one hand.

im a C and iv never had back problems.

But you wear a bra, so not really a problem. Plus are you old enough for problems to start manifesting themselves? Some ladies don't notice problems until their mid-to late 20's. Of course some don't get problems at all until well into their 40's so...

im 18 and until very recently i barely wore a bra unless i was dressing up to go out or going to work

Ravenwing wrote:

Rob Wilson wrote:

Ravenwing wrote: im a C and iv never had back problems.

But you wear a bra, so not really a problem. Plus are you old enough for problems to start manifesting themselves? Some ladies don't notice problems until their mid-to late 20's. Of course some don't get problems at all until well into their 40's so...

im 18 and until very recently i barely wore a bra unless i was dressing up to go out or going to work

Which would be why you haven't had time to develop persistant back problems yet.

Find bra's that are comfortable for you (you only need the sexy stuff when you're expecting to have fun ) and make sure they give you the support you need, that being their main role and all.

I have nothing against women walking around without bra's (especially when they aren't wearing any other clothing as well ) but you need to think about your comfort now and in the future.

You're young so make the most of the fact your breasts will be firm and quite well behaved, just remember they don't stay that way forever, and you can help keep them that way longer by using bra's whenever possible.

Anything more than that general advice I'll leave to the other women on here.

DPDarkPrimus wrote:You girls sure know a lot about each others breasts...

Of course, we've been seeing each other naked since before you were born. As Rob Wilson noted, it's kinda hard to avoid seeing naked people in changeroom showers. Which means that over the years I've probably seen more breasts than even Rob Wilson or Stravo.

id expect a step by step breast guide off a woman at least! and yes mine are well behaved if not still growing, buti think its just down to the breast type too, like those ones that try to sit out straight would be more of a strain than a teardrop near the body

jmac wrote: Which means that over the years I've probably seen more breasts than even Rob Wilson or Stravo.

Impossible. Through the power of Porn alone I've seen more breasts than a mammogram technician!
Plus my vigourous, personal mission to sample the wonderous variety of breasts and nipples in the world through the medium of touch (hand and tongue) means I have seen oh so many breasts. Large, small, pert, cute, firm, soft, sensitive, arousing and aroused. I am determined to play with them all (Ages 18 - 42)

Ravenwing wrote:id expect a step by step breast guide off a woman at least! and yes mine are well behaved if not still growing, buti think its just down to the breast type too, like those ones that try to sit out straight would be more of a strain than a teardrop near the body

Shape is more to do with size and youth than anything else. Though young women can have large (C) breasts that sit out by themselves, this tends to be for a limited time only.

Most women with larger breasts develop the more body-following teardrop shape breasts. By wearing a correctly fitted bra, you can extend the amount of time they stay firm enough to tell gravity to get lost (to a degree ).

I've known women whose breasts were still firm enough to be self-supporting at age 32-4. Simply because they made sure they wore Bra's whenever possible.

Plus the less time you spend with a bra off, the more the guys will appreciate the times you don't that much more.

And by a correctly fitting bra I mean one that contain and supports the breasts. It should take their entire weight, should spread the load across the whole bra strap, shouldn't restrict breathing, nor cut into the sides (those side straps should be wide - it's a bra not a bikini) and should hold the breasts close to the body whilst still supporting them.

While Push-ups and lacy wide-cut bra;s are great for special occasions, wearing them all the time is something only a small percentage of women can get away with (A cups mainly). And again it's a case of the less often you wear them, the more the guys will appreciate it when you do.

the only thing your missing here is a set of your very own!

Ravenwing wrote:the only thing your missing here is a set of your very own!

Well I do prefer to sample the wide variety that the females of the world provide.

The Rob Wilson Benevolent Breast Charity Drive®, all donations from young ladies (18-42) gratefully accepted.

Rob Wilson wrote:

Ravenwing wrote:the only thing your missing here is a set of your very own!

Well I do prefer to sample the wide variety that the females of the world provide.

That said it's just about every straight guys fantasy to inhabit a nubile young womans body for a day, just to see what it feels like when you play with the equipment.

Ravenwing wrote:id expect a step by step breast guide off a woman at least!

Doubtless there will be one in SOS:NBA by now. *pokes Zaia*

I thought the penis is a giant blood vein/muscle, rather than a bone?

Actually, the mammalian penis is a biological example of hydraulic engineering. No significant muscle involved. LOTS of blood vessels and a very spongy, expandable tissue wrapped in fascia (that's a fibrous membrane useful for holding things together in critters) and covered over with lots and lots of nerves and specialized skin, with accessory glands.

Some - actually most - critters DO have a bone of sorts in their penis, humans are more the exception rather than the rule in this case. What, exactly, this bone is useful for is somewhat of a puzzle - after all, we're 8 billion strong without it. Just another natural mystery.

Rob Wilson wrote:

Ravenwing wrote:

KowaiYukiDono wrote:
Now, for a smaller-chested woman, this wouldn't be an issue. But once you hit C it gets iffy. C is bigger than you think. And the smaller-chested women are the ones who don' have massively uncomfortable combination-lock bras that happen to be difficult to remove with one hand.

im a C and iv never had back problems.

But you wear a bra, so not really a problem. Plus are you old enough for problems to start manifesting themselves? Some ladies don't notice problems until their mid-to late 20's. Of course some don't get problems at all until well into their 40's so...

C-cup here.

Age 40 (roughly - I never get specific on message boards)

No back problems.

PART of the problem all aging folks in our society have with back problems is lack of proper conditioning and exercise - except for those engaged in physical labor, who have the problem of injury through work. One reason I've had fewer musculo-skeletal problems than many women my age is that in my youth I wasn't afraid to excercise or build up strength (woman do NOT bulk up like men without chemical assistance, so they can significantly improve their strength without losing their feminine appearance). I'm not an exercise fanatic, but I keep moving and I'm careful about not abusing my back.

But yes, a well-fitting bra is an important part of a modern woman's wardrobe. Many department stores offer free fitting, and you should be re-measured every few years because (trust me on this) even if your weight remains stable your body will change over time. Last time I got re-fitted it went quite well - AFTER I told the lady that NO, will NOT consider a fucking underwire! I may be 40, but I'm not sagging THAT much! A tape measure should come into play, and you should be able to try several sizes of cups and styles.

Daily wear should be supportive with straps and bands as wide as you can find them. It should be tight enough to keep the girls from hurting if you jump up and down, loose enough to never restrict your breathing, and comfortable enough to wear 8-12 hours. Sport bras should be slightly more restrictive of breast motion, but again should not interfere with breathing.

The frilly, lacy stuff, fancy stuff is OK for dates, formal occassionss that require specialty bras like underwires for strapless gowns, and playing with your sex partner(s). But they should not be daily wear. Unless you're an exotic dancer, in which case you can probably count them as a business expense.

While I'll sometimes go braless on a hot day around the house, the rule is I wear 'em when I leave the home.

About 10 years ago I had to upgrade the bras - when I started doing flight manuvers I discovered that you need really really good support when pulling a couple g's. The instructor is not going to be impressed if you say "Is that enough steep turns now? My tits are hurting!"

Broomstick wrote:One reason I've had fewer musculo-skeletal problems than many women my age is that in my youth I wasn't afraid to excercise or build up strength (woman do NOT bulk up like men without chemical assistance, so they can significantly improve their strength without losing their feminine appearance). I'm not an exercise fanatic, but I keep moving and I'm careful about not abusing my back.

That is so true. With my current training program I spend 2 days a week doing weight training and the rest of the time I'm swimming in the pool or sprints up the hill. I spend 4-5 hours a day 5 days a week training and though I'm more muscular & broad-shouldered than the average woman I'm nowhere near being bulky or musclebound. I know that as long as I stay active I'll never have to worry about osteoporosis, and as a side benefit I'm strong enough to throw a lot of guys around.

Rob Wilson wrote:

Ravenwing wrote:id expect a step by step breast guide off a woman at least!

Doubtless there will be one in SOS:NBA by now. *pokes Zaia*

That particular assignment was given to muse & jmac, since they're already so knowledgable about each other's breasts.


And this surgery idea is one of the worst ideas I have ever heard. I understand that vanity is a trend now and all, but when a trend involves such possibility for medical complications AND restricts detection of lumps before they turn into cancer, I really think we've taken our goddamn obsession with physical perfection too damn far. Bras are not t3h evil, the fucking doctors that come up with and sell this shit to their image-obsessed patients are.

Umm...Broomstick, we humans are only 6 billion strong. Unless you're saying...AAAARGH THE LIGHT! WHAT ARE YOU CREATURES?

*plops back into the chair with memories erased*

Zaia, I doubt the people who are this obsessed with their appearance are going to care about what happens to them in ten to fifteen years. Hell, I knew girls in school who wanted to die before they passed 39 so they "wouldn't have to be old". They probably figure that even if that new fancy surgery does screw them up in a few years, more surgery later will be able to fix that so they'll always look like they're 18. Reminds me of the old (are they actually old, though?) women in Brazil who have excess skin sliced off or burned away with acid so they look younger (and then stay wrapped up like mummies when their "complications get complications").

I hate the idea, not because of the problems like the mesh making cancer harder to detect, not because of the numerous other health problems it can cause. I hate this because I consider removal of the bra a vital part of foreplay. It took me long enough to learn how to remove a bra one handed and i'm not gonna let some geek ruin all my hardwork.

Broomstick wrote:

Rob Wilson wrote:

Ravenwing wrote:
im a C and iv never had back problems.

But you wear a bra, so not really a problem. Plus are you old enough for problems to start manifesting themselves? Some ladies don't notice problems until their mid-to late 20's. Of course some don't get problems at all until well into their 40's so...

C-cup here.

Age 40 (roughly - I never get specific on message boards)

No back problems.

That would be where 'some' and 'well into thier 40's' would apply

Also your post details exactly the sort of things I pointed out make the whole backproblem part take longer and longer to appear if not prevent it altogether.

Now if no one minds I'm going back to my charity drive.

I'm sure there is a good intent behind these titanium breasts... but there's just something about the idea which seems so goddamn wrong...

Peregrin Toker wrote:I'm sure there is a good intent behind these titanium breasts... but there's just something about the idea which seems so goddamn wrong...

Maybe someone saw 7 of 9, thought that though the Corset made her breasts look great it also got in the way, so decided that they should put it under the skin.

By the way, it doesn't even seem like said titanium implant would destroy the breasts' consistency. Objectively it seems like a good idea at first glance except for the risk for disease, but I still can't get myself to approve of this...

Peregrin Toker wrote:By the way, it doesn't even seem like said titanium implant would destroy the breasts' consistency. Objectively it seems like a good idea at first glance except for the risk for disease, but I still can't get myself to approve of this...

Unnecessary surgery, The fact the weight will be taken by pectoral muscles and Breastbone (neither of which are designed to support forces pulling on them in the directions this will produce), it's purely cosmetic and provides no real help.

I can't see a reason for this beyond superficial vanity over-riding any concerns about later health.

Rob Wilson wrote:

Peregrin Toker wrote:By the way, it doesn't even seem like said titanium implant would destroy the breasts' consistency. Objectively it seems like a good idea at first glance except for the risk for disease, but I still can't get myself to approve of this...

Unnecessary surgery, The fact the weight will be taken by pectoral muscles and Breastbone (neither of which are designed to support forces pulling on them in the directions this will produce), it's purely cosmetic and provides no real help.

I can't see a reason for this beyond superficial vanity over-riding any concerns about later health.

Okay, I now have a legitimate reason to be disgusted.

Ravenwing wrote:im a C and iv never had back problems.

I know people who have B-cups and still have back problems. One of my friends has a large C-cup (she's also short) and has no problems at all. Another friend has a DD, is fourteen, and has serious problems. My sister is an A and starting on some small problems, mostly because she's thin as a rail.

My mother has a D-cup, and no problems whatsoever.

Though this invention will likely make problems a lot more commonplace.