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Posted: 2004-07-07 07:16pm
by Pu-239
2000AD wrote:Flash stuff don't seem to work on Firefox. Do i need to download Flash again?
I hate Flash. Not only do I have dialup, but the old linux flash plugin ate 100% of the CPU time on a P-II 450. This has been vastly improved, but it still eats bandwidth. I refuse to put flash on any website.
Posted: 2004-07-08 03:05am
by haas mark
Clone Sergeant wrote:verilon wrote:By the way, is there a way to allow pop-ups from specific sites with Opera? I've not figured that out yet...
The only way I know of is that Opera 7 allows you to set the browser to block only unwanted pop-ups, so you only get pop-ups for links you click on.
Which is what I'm currently using. Oh, well.
Re: Which Internet Browser should I use?
Posted: 2004-07-08 03:54am
by Rob Wilson
Just a quick Firefox question, with the browser privacy, pop-up blockers, ad blockers, etc is there still a need for a firewall with it? Or does it have a control for what apps can access the internet as well (hey, it's the only Firewall component it seems to be missing)?
Oh and the Google bar extension - does that have anything that sends my browsing habits to Google 'for market research'

? Not that I thin my browsing habits are anything especially interesting, just why the hell does google need to know them? And also, what's the advantage of having the Bar over simply having a Tab open with Google in it?

Re: Which Internet Browser should I use?
Posted: 2004-07-08 04:31am
by darthdavid
Rob Wilson wrote:Just a quick Firefox question, with the browser privacy, pop-up blockers, ad blockers, etc is there still a need for a firewall with it? Or does it have a control for what apps can access the internet as well (hey, it's the only Firewall component it seems to be missing)?
Oh and the Google bar extension - does that have anything that sends my browsing habits to Google 'for market research'

? Not that I thin my browsing habits are anything especially interesting, just why the hell does google need to know them? And also, what's the advantage of having the Bar over simply having a Tab open with Google in it?

Ok, Popup Blocker=Built in. Ad Blocker=Great extension as well as limited built in functionality. It's worked perfectly with every Firewall and Anti-Virus program i've used. There is no firewall with it though. I'd invest in a hardware firewall if I were you (though only if you have an "always on" high speed connection). Google bar for firefox, is open source and not run by google but rather by people who like the IE version and wanted to bring it's functionality over to firefox, so no there's nothing sent back to google hq so far as I know.
Re: Which Internet Browser should I use?
Posted: 2004-07-08 04:47am
by Pu-239
Rob Wilson wrote:Just a quick Firefox question, with the browser privacy, pop-up blockers, ad blockers, etc is there still a need for a firewall with it? Or does it have a control for what apps can access the internet as well (hey, it's the only Firewall component it seems to be missing)?
Oh and the Google bar extension - does that have anything that sends my browsing habits to Google 'for market research'

? Not that I thin my browsing habits are anything especially interesting, just why the hell does google need to know them? And also, what's the advantage of having the Bar over simply having a Tab open with Google in it?

You still need a firewall. Windows has other vulnerabilities...
One benefit of Linux is that it's builtin AND gives you very fine control.
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*Yes, I know about the Windows XP firewall, but that's not fine-tunable.
Posted: 2004-07-08 04:57am
by Pu-239
Oh, another benefit of Mozilla/Firefox is the minimum font size, so one can see all microtext posted on this board without copy and paste.
Re: Which Internet Browser should I use?
Posted: 2004-07-08 09:46am
by phongn
Rob Wilson wrote:Just a quick Firefox question, with the browser privacy, pop-up blockers, ad blockers, etc is there still a need for a firewall with it? Or does it have a control for what apps can access the internet as well (hey, it's the only Firewall component it seems to be missing)?
Yes, you still need a firewall to protect against malicious applications and people trying to hack into your computer.
Oh and the Google bar extension - does that have anything that sends my browsing habits to Google 'for market research'

? Not that I thin my browsing habits are anything especially interesting, just why the hell does google need to know them? And also, what's the advantage of having the Bar over simply having a Tab open with Google in it?

Referring to the Google Toolbar for IE (only!), if you enable Advanced Features it does some tracking, but it's pretty clear about that upfront. The Mozilla & Firefox ones, IIRC, do not.
Re: Which Internet Browser should I use?
Posted: 2004-07-08 02:07pm
by Rob Wilson
Cheers guys, just seemed strange that it had just about every other feature of a Firewall, but not the app control or port hider. Doubtless someone will code it as an extension.
So I'll keep my Firewall up then.
as to the micro-text bit, why would I copy and paste? Just hit the quote button and the text is right there.
Anyway thanks guys.
Posted: 2004-07-08 02:14pm
by Col. Crackpot
i just downloaded firefox onto my brand spankin' new compaq. kickass!!
Re: Which Internet Browser should I use?
Posted: 2004-07-08 04:31pm
by Pu-239
phongn wrote:Rob Wilson wrote:Just a quick Firefox question, with the browser privacy, pop-up blockers, ad blockers, etc is there still a need for a firewall with it? Or does it have a control for what apps can access the internet as well (hey, it's the only Firewall component it seems to be missing)?
Yes, you still need a firewall to protect
against malicious applications and people trying to hack into your computer.
Forgot about that. Anyway hardware firewalls will NOT protect against malicious apps phoning home. Yes, that includes any Linux boxes used as firewalls. You want to also install a software firewall.
Re: Which Internet Browser should I use?
Posted: 2004-07-08 05:53pm
by Vendetta
darthdavid wrote:Google bar for firefox, is open source and not run by google but rather by people who like the IE version and wanted to bring it's functionality over to firefox, so no there's nothing sent back to google hq so far as I know.
Doesn't Firefox have most of that built in anyway?
Even if you have the integrated google box off you can still do a fast search by just typing in
google whatever into the address bar.
Re: Which Internet Browser should I use?
Posted: 2004-07-08 06:01pm
by Mad
Rob Wilson wrote:Cheers guys, just seemed strange that it had just about every other feature of a Firewall, but not the app control or port hider. Doubtless someone will code it as an extension.
Well, a firewall has to be installed at a lower level on the system so it can prevent applications from phoning home or otherwise sending undesired information out, and prevent unwanted incoming activity from reaching the application level... Firefox exists at the application level, so it can't do any of that.