Aw what tha hell! Time for a classic SpaceBattles Debate!

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-11-09 07:13am

Ultimately, they all must bow to the incredible might of the Blackstone Fortresses.
All hail the Forces of Abaddon!

Crazy_Vasey · Post by **Crazy_Vasey** » 2002-11-09 08:06am

Pokemon is proof that there is no god.

SAMAS · Post by **SAMAS** » 2002-11-09 09:09am

Darth Wong wrote:So Pokemon are powerful enough to kill guys with guns. So what? Since nobody gives a fuck about Pokemon, nobody should give a fuck about this thread either. He is only posting it to get a rise out of people; don't oblige him.

You're only half right.

I give a fuck. That's enough. What can I say? I like cute.

I occasionally like smacking down people's misconceptions. You should be quite familiar with that by now.

Besides, these threads have a way of coming up whenever I join a board. This time, I decided to strike first.

Forgive me if it came off as being a little trollish, but I do like a good debate sometimes, and these threads definitely give me one. It seems that most people's useless hantred of Pokemon, combined with their misconception that because they're cute, they must be weak(forgot the Laws of Anime so quickly?), and their apparent upset when they find out how dangerous these little guys can be, leads to often more and greater attempts, which leads me to more and greater counters, and even occasionally to learn more about other Sci-Fi series'.

SAMAS · Post by **SAMAS** » 2002-11-09 09:10am

Crazy_Vasey wrote:Pokemon is proof that there is no god.

After all, Heaven forbid that things be cute.

SWPIGWANG · Post by **SWPIGWANG** » 2002-11-09 09:12am

Doraemon > Poke'mon

Time machine + shink Ray should do it for most cases....

SAMAS · Post by **SAMAS** » 2002-11-09 10:04am

SWPIGWANG wrote:Doraemon > Poke'mon

Time machine + shink Ray should do it for most cases....

Celebi > Time Machine

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-11-09 10:18am

bah what the hell I bet 95% percent of the people here don't even know the pokemeon species apart from pikachu

Imperial Guard Regiment > Pokemon
Stormtroopers >> Pokemon
Space Marine Chapter >>>> Pokemon

SAMAS · Post by **SAMAS** » 2002-11-09 10:37am

That would be their fault.

But I did provide a link to an online PokeDex(Using the PD information from the games), and in the same post, I reprinted the information in the post itself.

Oh, and I've done the Stromies(They were first), the Guard, and the Marines already.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-11-09 10:49am

on this thread? Anyways if it's overkill or not, planetary bombardment and they will all die.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-11-09 10:51am

btw about that Stormies thing an Imperial invasion also includes TIE support.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-11-09 12:31pm

Supreme Overkill Way
I don't use the Only-One-Of-Each rule

Ahh so facing a force of less than twenty that can take over 200 enemys down you want to double the enemy forces?

Piff

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2002-11-09 12:52pm

SAMAS wrote:Oh, and the Legendaries are essentially Deities and Demigods.

You are aware the Netherese aren't above killing such beings and taking their powers for themselves, right?

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2002-11-09 12:56pm

Actually for that matter...screw all that I want someone to say what is going to stop a rampaging Tarrasque for Pokemon.

Seriously that thing is truly a machine of pure killing, and made to resist just about everything in D&D. Sorry convention fire, lightning...and other elemental won't hurt it...physical does so little...and Psionics do nothing.

BG2 may not be canon D&D(liberties and such) but Irenicus is basically a souped up Mage and Time Stop is outlandish in the right hands...think of that combined with a legion of those suckers.

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2002-11-09 02:04pm

SAMAS wrote:
Hotfoot wrote:You want munchkin? Epic-Level Baatezu Wizards/Sorcerers. Remember, monsters can gain levels just like PCs. Oh, and how about a TarrasquoLiche?

Oh, barring that, Dieties and Demigods. There, you're done, game over.
You DO realize that Anime-style MewTwo is a Planetary-Level threat, right?

We're talking Turn-you-to-stone, Wordwide-Hurricane-Making, Time-Warping, Mindfucking, Move-a-fucking-lake-under-a-mountain, Create-a-clone-army, And-the-only-people-who-even-remember-even-if-you-died-and-came-back-in-the-process-are-the-ones-he-wants-to Threat.

Oh, and the Legendaries are essentially Deities and Demigods.

Either you've not read the Deities and Demigods supplement, or the Epic level supplement, or you're just trolling. Anime-Style Mewtwo vs. The Tarrasque is toast. Dieties & Demigods > the Tarrasque. An epic-Level Party in D&D would have a tough time against the Tarrasque, but they could take it down.

Mewtwo would be a threat, but not an insurmountable one. If he pissed off even a lesser diety, he'd be screwed.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2002-11-09 02:48pm

I happen to be a veteran of one of SAMA's little pokemon escapades. i will handel this one.

Put all the pokemon on pokeworld vs....

The DM's Avatar!

Alyrium Denryle, Grey Elf DM
level 800 wizard level 800 sorcerer(effective caster level has max levels in all arcane pristige classes) level 10 duelist monk 20

ac 100002545
hp 81499998510 just the ability mod

str 200
dex 6000
con 3000
int 1000000000
wis 100000000
char 100000000

Will-base(817)+499999995=500000812

Fort-2312

ref-3812

Ranged Attack bonus(dex)-3860/3855/3850
melee-(int because of the feat improved war wizard tactics) 500000815/500000810/500000810

Feats-All

Skills all

St based-1728
dex- 3828
con-2328
int-He makes the check
wis-he makes the check
char-he makes the check

He has no equipment but his robes, his spell book and a +20 keen rapier of wounding and assasin senses. Come on Samas, all the pokemon on pokeworld vs this....

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2002-11-09 02:51pm

Skills include, Craft(Multiverse)

and proffesion(onmipotent, omniscient superbeing)

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2002-11-09 02:58pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote:Skills include, Craft(Multiverse)

and proffesion(onmipotent, omniscient superbeing)

You forgot Black Mage's famous HANDOKEN.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2002-11-09 04:57pm

He has developed it as an epic spell.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2002-11-09 04:59pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote:He has developed it as an epic spell.

Then I will allow you to continue... THIS TIME.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2002-11-09 05:11pm

up to 540000000 damge in a 5 mile radius, cant injure the caster. And he can cast it over 30 times per round

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2002-11-09 05:14pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote:up to 540000000 damge in a 5 mile radius, cant injure the caster. And he can cast it over 30 times per round

Munchkin.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2002-11-09 05:18pm

I AM the DM after all...And I prefer the term "Rules Lawyer".

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2002-11-09 05:26pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote:I AM the DM after all...And I prefer the term "Rules Lawyer".

Allow me to show you the weakness of the DM God...

*invokes Karsus' Avatar, crippling Alyrium and stealing his DM powers*

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2002-11-09 05:43pm

*Karsus' avatar explodes as his brain is converted to anti-matter.*

Hahahahah you fool! Karsus was a weakling, he can take out gods, but I oversee his very spellcasting!

Utsanomiko · Post by **Utsanomiko** » 2002-11-09 05:44pm

I know what can truly hands-down defeat Pokemon:

Kansai Airport Inspectors!!

When I went over to Japan Summer '01, They picked up something metal in my carry-on, and made me look through it for any offending objects. This included my pocketknife (they sealed this in an envelope and sent it separately), a film tin holding 4 of my GB games (two being Pokemon, in case I got bored. Hey, you can't blame me for respecting a solid game design!), and a can of bugspray, which turned out to be the culprit, judging from our last bit of dialogue:

(Translated from Japanese)
Me: <hold on a second...> (removes metal airsol can)
Inspector: <what's this?> (picks up can)
Me (wondering what the word for 'bugspray' is a compound word or not): <Um, Bug...?>
Inspector: <'Bug'? Oh, I see.>

I got through fine from there. However, a day or two later, by the time I could serriously unpack, I realized that my film tin and its contents were nowhere to be found, and must've been left with Airport Inspection in the confusion.

Needless to say, considering that Stormtroopers are far better armed and have higher authority than airline security, Pokemon don't stand a chance. See you in the Lost 'N' Found.